HD 4850 not too impressive in 3DMark Vantage

wolf2009 · Jun 3, 2008

http://sg.vr-zone.com/articles/Radeon_HD_4850_%28RV770PRO%29_Tested/5829.html

Scored only P6500 marks in 3DMark Vantage , 8800GTS 512 MB can score near about 5500.

With the 8800GTS 512 MB coming in at $160 after rebate , and HD4850 at $230 , i wonder if nvidia offering will be the right choice once again unless HD 4870 can come in with some drastic performance increase.

Disruptor4 · Jun 3, 2008

So much for the 48xx series using GDDR5. :laugh:

Or am I thinking of a different card/series?

JrRacinFan · Jun 3, 2008

Can't really scoff at that. It scores almost as good as a 3870X2, almost meaning within 750 points.

Megasty · Jun 3, 2008

That sweet & all, but WTF is the test system. Typical VR-Zone :rolleyes:

CrackerJack · Jun 3, 2008

that's a pretty good score considering the clocks speeds, but what are the full systems specs?!?

Shurakai · Jun 3, 2008

I don't know much about early tests but that seems great for unoptimized drivers, wish VR-Zone posted the test system specs like Megasty mentioned

wolf2009 · Jun 3, 2008

whatever the test system , a better processor may improve 3dmark score but its not gonna improve gaming performance by much.

@shurakai - as far as unoptimized drivers r concerned, i dont think ati makes really good drivers. there latest catalyst releases r slower than their previous catalysts.

Temps_Riising · Jun 3, 2008

Wonder how these things will overclock though, if not very well then probably little or no gap between scores for the 8800GTS because once you overclock the GTS from 650 to 825mhz or so then it is significantly faster.

Megasty · Jun 3, 2008

wolf2009 said:
whatever the test system , a better processor may improve 3dmark score but its not gonna improve gaming performance by much.

Who cares about that. 1000 pts is huge in vantage. In my sys with a 3.0ghz quad, a 8800gts can get p5200 while a 9800gtx can get p5700. The cpu still determines the overall score so them not telling us atleast that makes that p6500 meaningless. Nevertheless, it is a pretty good score for a midrange card.

JrRacinFan · Jun 3, 2008

Also, can't forget that ATi gets better with driver releases.

cdawall · Jun 3, 2008

umm that card looks dead exactly the same as my 3850...bogus?

like even the capacitors are in the same spot...

Megasty · Jun 3, 2008

cdawall said:
umm that card looks dead exactly the same as my 3850...bogus?

like even the capacitors are in the same spot...

They are suppose to look exactly the same. The 4850 will have the same pcb design as well as the cooler :rolleyes:

Disruptor4 · Jun 3, 2008

JrRacinFan said:
Can't really scoff at that. It scores almost as good as a 3870X2, almost meaning within 750 points.

I wasn't scoffing at the score or nothing. It was at the fact I could swear they said they were going to use GDD5, when quite clearly in that picture, it shows GDDR3....

cdawall · Jun 3, 2008

Megasty said:
They are suppose to look exactly the same. The 4850 will have the same pcb design as well as the cooler

ahh ok damn why couldn't they have gotten a good cooler for it that one is a POS

tkpenalty · Jun 3, 2008

cdawall said:
ahh ok damn why couldn't they have gotten a good cooler for it that one is a POS

They've improved it a tiny bit... notice how many more fan blades it has? :laugh:

The PCB is identical, except now there are less unsoldered components; more capacitors have been installed. Anyway the card will be very cheap, compared to Nvidia's offerings...

Megasty · Jun 3, 2008

Disruptor4 said:
I wasn't scoffing at the score or nothing. It was at the fact I could swear they said they were going to use GDD5, when quite clearly in that picture, it shows GDDR3....

The 4870 & x2 will use GDDR5. How much more of a difference it will make is still up in the air.

cdawall said:
ahh ok damn why couldn't they have gotten a good cooler for it that one is a POS

It is a POS, I hate that card idling at 60C all the time, that's why I don't use the thing. I like my stuff at 40-50C, especially in the summer months, which is why I modded the hell out of my 3870x2s.

cdawall · Jun 3, 2008

great so no its going to be even noisier and just as inefficient

not 60C idle but load is just crazy high

tkpenalty · Jun 3, 2008

cdawall said:
great so no its going to be even noisier and just as inefficient

not 60C idle but load is just crazy high

huh?

Make sense please?

More fan blades = More airflow with less noise.

niko084 · Jun 3, 2008

JrRacinFan said:
Can't really scoff at that. It scores almost as good as a 3870X2, almost meaning within 750 points.

Also remember these are very early drivers once again...

Megasty · Jun 3, 2008

cdawall said:
great so no its going to be even noisier and just as inefficient

not 60C idle but load is just crazy high

Yeah, I had to turn the damn fan up to 90% to get it to go down to 40C. That 25% mess just didn't cut it. More blades does help a little but the noise will still be retarted.

cdawall · Jun 3, 2008

tkpenalty said:
huh?

Make sense please?

More fan blades = More airflow with less noise.

lol not really cause they make more noise cause there is more blades spinning at the same speed and to many blades will not increase performance...hence why most fans have 5 or so

JrRacinFan · Jun 3, 2008

JrRacinFan said:
Also, can't forget that ATi gets better with driver releases.

niko084 said:
Also remember these are very early drivers once again...

Exactly man. I think this will be a killer card!

niko084 · Jun 3, 2008

cdawall said:
lol not really cause they make more noise cause there is more blades spinning at the same speed and to many blades will not increase performance...hence why most fans have 5 or so

Air movement makes noise, so yes more fan blades doesn't always equal less noise..

Sound is caused by displacement of air....

Megasty · Jun 3, 2008

JrRacinFan said:
Exactly man. I think this will be a killer card!

Even w/o the sys specs, its right on the mark. The 4870 should eat the 3870x2 while the 4850 should be within the range of the 3870x2. Very nice :toast:

CrackerJack · Jun 3, 2008

Megasty said:
Even w/o the sys specs, its right on the mark. The 4870 should eat the 3870x2 while the 4850 should be within the range of the 3870x2. Very nice

4850 being in the range of a 3870x2.... right!?!? higher doesn't mean better

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