$1100-$1400 to build / buy a computer

[calvary1980]

you can take the E2160 to 3-3.4Ghz, GA-P35-DS3L vDroop mod, geil is the cheapest memory kit found with micron d9 ic, videocard is cheap and comes with the best air cooler on the market. yate loons are one of the best fans on the market. WD hard drive will be faster than a standard seagate, one of the best power supplies manufactured by seasonic even though 450watts it's been known to run E8x wolfdales and G92 9800GTX, cyber snipa stinger is one of the most underrated mice it has the shape of the G5 feel of the deathadder more buttons better weight system and a higher sensor.

- Christine

 

[Reynardin]

you can take the E2160 to 3-3.4Ghz, GA-P35-DS3L vDroop Mod, Geil is the cheapest memory kit found with Micron D9 IC, videocard is cheap and comes with the best air cooler on the market. yate loons are one of the best fans on the market. WD hard drive will be faster than a standard seagate one of the best power supplies manufactured by seasonic even though 450watts it's been known to run E8x wolfdales and G92 9800GTX, Cyber Snipa Stinger is one of the most underrated mice it has the shape of the G5 feel of the deathadder more buttons better weight system and a higher sensor.

- Christine

I already have a mx518 which I'm happy with, but I'll keep that mouse in mind if it ever breaks =) I pretty much am halfway through the checkout right now, so its a bit late to make changes.

 

[calvary1980]

shame my system would crush yours with the proper overclock and vmods.

- Christine

 

[farlex85]

shame my system would crush yours with the proper overclock and vmods.

- Christine

The e2160, no matter how much oc'd, will not "crush" an e8400. I won't even get into that. The memory he has, although not d9, should have no trouble reaching speeds the geil could, and is quite cheap for 4gb at that speed range. The rest of his system is just fine. The system you made would in no way "crush" the one he already has made, although it was indeed a very good sub-$1000 gaming rig.

 

[calvary1980]

I could take the E2160 to 3.7Ghz even with 1MB Cache it could exceed a Conroe. vGPU, vMEM (depending if the ECS uses Qimonda) to 800/2000/2000 or 850/2000/1000. 1220 on Geils.

his PC is a mess mine is much more efficient.

- Christine

 

[farlex85]

I could take the E2160 to 3.7Ghz even with 1MB Cache it could exceed a Conroe. vGPU, vMEM (depending if the ECS uses Qimonda) to 800/2000/2000 or 850/2000/1000. 1220 on Geils.

his PC is a mess

- Christine

Sure it'll reach 3.7, 8400 goes to 4ghz w/o even trying. And no, it won't beat my 6750 at equivalent speeds, much less a wolfie. His system is just fine, if those can reach 1220 than that is indeed faster, but I would take the extra 2gb over the extra 100mhz any day of the week.

 

[calvary1980]

name another PC-6400 kit that uses Micron D9GMH. buy 2 sets, not a 4gb kit. 3Ghz is pleanty for gaming the cache will only effect desktop applications like encoding or decoding.

PS, I have a E8500 @ 5.1 on a Fuzion V1.

- Christine

 

[ShadowFold]

My E2200 @ 3.5ghz gets destroyed by my E7200 @ stock. Get the E8400 man..

 

[farlex85]

name another PC-6400 kit that uses Micron D9GMH. buy 2 sets, not a 4gb kit. 3Ghz is pleanty for gaming the cache will only effect desktop applications like encoding or decoding.

PS, I have a E8500 @ 5.1 on a Fuzion V1.

- Christine

The cache is only part of the disadvantage, the core's of the conroe and wolfdale run faster clock for clock than the allendale. A 4gb kit is fine, only really becomes a problem if going for super oc's, which he won't be doing. Sure 3ghz is plenty, 2ghz is plenty, I don't need to oc my proc at all really. But what's the fun in that?

PS, very nice, I'm going to score me one of those when they drop to sub-$200.

 

[calvary1980]

ever wonder why people sell there wolfdales? infact i'm probably going to sell mine by Christmas. people need to stop buying things they don't need! this would be a cute little rig until nehalem.

- Christine

 

[farlex85]

ever wonder why people sell there wolfdales? infact i'm probably going to sell mine by Christmas. people need to stop buying things they don't need! this would be a cute little rig until nehalem.

- Christine

But nehalem will be pricey (at the beginning) and also overkill for most applications so that logic doesn't really work. Plus, he probably isn't going to want to buy a new system in less than a year. Basically, the tech world moves quickly, and right now hardware is moving quicker than software. So, in my mind, buy the best you can that fits within your budget. That way, as things move forward your stuff will stay more valid and be able to keep up w/ the times if you don't want to upgrade. If you do want to upgrade, there's more resale value there. Either way, it's best to the get the best you can afford.

 

[Reynardin]

what do you mean?

 

[farlex85]

what do you mean?

What does who mean, me?

 

[Reynardin]

i'm getting confused =(

 

[farlex85]

i'm getting confused =(

Sorry Rey, don't mind us. Basically I think you should stick w/ what you got and christine wants you to pick up her build. The choice is ultimately yours of course. If you have a question about anything in particular we said just ask.

 

[calvary1980]

lol. Nehalem is a new Microarchitecture and Socket LGA1xxx Intel is launching late 2008. can support 2-8 cores, integrated DDR3 controller. they had a demo at Computex. LGA775 won't be obsolete but you can bet Nehalem will be on every enthusiast christmas list.

- Christine

 

[Reynardin]

oh, so you are talking about how I might have wanted to go cheap now and wait for the new stuff.. is that correct?

 

[calvary1980]

yes. also AMD is launching Socket AM3 late 2008.

- Christine

 

[Reynardin]

I just think that there is no real point in waiting to get a computer, there will always be new and better stuff coming out. If I just wait for the next good thing, and the next after that, I'll end up never getting a computer. I'm just going to get the best that I can at the moment, and hope that it lasts me for a long enough time.

 

[calvary1980]

thats normally true but were talking about new microarchitecture not a new set of processors, it could render LGA775 obsolete within any given time frame.

I remember when I built a friend a system it was just after the launch of Socket AM2, I was trying to find a 939 Board and it was impossible I ended up building a cheap AM2 System which cost me more it's not about when to upgrade and when not to sometimes you have no choice.

- Christine

 

[farlex85]

It won't become obsolete, or at least unable to run current software effectively, until well into 2009 most likely. He's probably not gonna wait until Christmas to get a comp, and if he want to get nehalem when it comes out the better parts will sell better and give him more money to put toward it than the older stuff, which may not sell at all.

 

[calvary1980]

*chews on some dill pickles*

- Christine

 

[Reynardin]

Order in, newegg is now processing it =)

 

[farlex85]

Which gts did you go w/?

 

[Reynardin]

EVGA, but it had a $30 mail in rebate, so it came out to the same price =D