new comuter for my bro ~($500)

[quasar923]

I am building a new lower end gaming PC for my bro. He likes to play halo 1, black and white 2, and maybe some cod4. He will either be having my 20" 1600x1200 lcd, or my dads 19" 1280x1024 lcd. Now heres the deal, with his purchase im getting a 4850 to put in to my PC, which he will not be knowing that i will be taking for myself.

so far i have thought of getting these parts, and going AMD because they seem cheeper and their on board 8000 series onboard graphics seems better than what intel chipsets have to offer (7000 series). my question is are the 8300 on board graphics good enough to play halo and black and white 2 on higher settings confortably? If he plays cod4 it would be ok if he got around medium settings. maybe full res and no AA?


cpu Athlon 64x2 5000 Brisbane
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103211

2x1 gig supertalent PC 6400 4-4-3-8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609026

mobo- ASUS M3N78 PRO AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 8300 HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131320

HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80gig
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148231

DVD burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118012

Power supply DYNAPOWER USA EP-50X.C563-BX 500W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817255010

Rosewill Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147073

Keyboard/ mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126017

Then the 4850 for me (he will miss out on the rebate which ends today because my dad wont order till tomorrow for some dumb reason)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253



Total is $539.00

 

[quasar923]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130188R


or should i go for a mobo such as this with dual channel ram support and hd 2100 onboard gpu?

 

[JC316]

I would certainly get a better PSU for that rig. You don't want a $19 power supply to kill the other $500 rig.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

about that power supply-

Efficiency > 68%

It'll fry that system nicely. This is the cheapest powersupply I would get.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817709016

Also, that brisbane isn't a black edition, no unlocked multi on it I believe. You might want to get a black edition brisbane to be able to OC it so it has a chance of keeping up.

 

[JrRacinFan]

I personally own that psu and have had it for almost a year and half. It gets the job done. No instabilities when overclocking and only reason I switched it over was because of better video cards that consume more power.

 

[quasar923]

do you think its ok to go amd on this one? ive heard the intel chips clock way higher than the brisbanes.

Will that on board graphics be up to the games he wants to play? thats my main concern

 

[newtekie1]

Here is the machine I have been building for people with $500 budgets:

CPU: Core 2 Duo E5200
Video: eVGA 9600GSO
Mobo: ASUS P5Q SE
DVD Drive: LD DVD Burner
HDD: Seagate 160GB 7200.10
PSU: FSP 500w
RAM: GeIL 4GB DDR2-800
Case: Rosewill Black Mid-Tower

Of course you can up the GPU to something a little more powerful, like the 9800GT and still keep the price shipped around $550.

 

[JrRacinFan]

But yah the 4850 would be underpowered with that PSU.

 

[quasar923]

But yah the 4850 would be underpowered with that PSU.

the 4850 is not going into that machine, its going into mine for CF, im just taking the 4850 as pay for building the PC for him.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Ohhh well good to go then. It can power up to an "8600GT" no problems

 

[quasar923]

Ohhh well good to go then. It can power up to an "8600GT" no problems

ok well idc about the PSU, i know it can handle with watev card you said, i just wanna know if the onboard graphics on the mobo will work well for what he wants to do because i will not be putting in an additional gpu.

 

[newtekie1]

No, I don't think the onboard graphics will handle COD4 at full res.

 

[quasar923]

No, I don't think the onboard graphics will handle COD4 at full res.

will they be able to play the other games at full res? what if i got a cheep $20 -30 gpu?

 

[quasar923]

such as

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121249

or this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102064

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102729

 

[quasar923]

to use the nvidia hybrid sli on the mobo is that like the onboard gpu working with the pcie gpu? do i have to get an Nvidia gpu to do that also?

 

[NinkobEi]

the 4850 is not going into that machine, its going into mine for CF, im just taking the 4850 as pay for building the PC for him.

you're charging him $160 to build a pc? lol wow, I'll do it for half of that

 

[quasar923]

you're charging him $160 to build a pc? lol wow, I'll do it for half of that

well im paying him some back about 100$.

 

[JrRacinFan]

such as

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121249

or this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102064

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102729

Why not this? It's essentially an XT with underclocked core (WHich you could more than likely easily clock back up to 700 without any temp gains).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814260075

 

[quasar923]

can someone recomend a gpu under $50 that will be able to comfortably handle halo 1, and black and white 2 on decent settings. and possibly play cod4 on lower settings if it cant thats fine he doesnt desire playing it that much anyways. he much prefers halo and black&white 2

 

[quasar923]

Why not this? It's essentially an XT with underclocked core (WHich you could more than likely easily clock back up to 700 without any temp gains).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814260075

will i be able to use the hybrid sli on the mobo? if not its not worth it to get that mobo in my opinion and maybe save a few bucks and get a cheeper mobo with out that high end on board graphics or another mobo same price but better with out onboard?

 

[JrRacinFan]

Only other one actually worthwhile in that range.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130287

will i be able to use the hybrid sli on the mobo? if not its not worth it to get that mobo in my opinion and maybe save a few bucks and get a cheeper mobo with out that high end on board graphics or another mobo same price but better with out onboard?

Better without the onboard and using a dedicated card IMO.

 

[DOM]

why are you getting a 2nd 4850 ?

is he paying for it ?

 

[quasar923]

why are you getting a 2nd 4850 ?

is he paying for it ?

so i can put it in CF, hes paying for part of it one as a thanks for building my comp and 2 because he simply has the money and i dont.

 

[DOM]

so i can put it in CF, hes paying for part of it one as a thanks for building my comp and 2 because he simply has the money and i dont.

with his purchase im getting a 4850 to put in to my PC, which he will not be knowing that i will be taking for myself.

well it doesnt seem your such a good bro :shadedshu

i would let him keep it cuz why do you need CF

 

[3870x2]

if you want him to go onboard, he wont be playing games on anything but the lowest setting. However, i have an 8800GTS 512 up for sale, on par with the 4850, for sale $100 until midnight.