Maximus Formula, Det Dram hangs, PC8500 ram, NB voltage and YOU!

[HTC]

just booted with stock settings (all on auto) boots DDR-800

calling corsair now i guess

Take it all the way to windows and then reboot.

Now, try your OCed settings to see if they now work: if it's what happened to me (see the link in my previous post), it will work.

 

[memnochbcs]

closed

 

[memnochbcs]

never installed windows.... still trying to figure out why i cant get 4 sticks to work

 

[EastCoasthandle]

just booted with stock settings (all on auto) boots DDR-800

calling corsair now i guess

It's better to post in their forum. They have a tech that can help you.

For example:
"How can I get your 4 sticks of PC8500 ram to work with my Maximus Formula?"

 

[memnochbcs]

posted <crosses fingers>

or should i just RMA this thing?

did i mention i have a friend that is running the same setup? our bios version and settings are exactly the same.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

posted <crosses fingers>

or should i just RMA this thing?

did i mention i have a friend that is running the same setup? our bios version and settings are exactly the same.

You should get an answer tomorrow. No you shouldn't RMA unless it's defective (which we haven't determine just yet). If your friend has the same setup did you ask him what he did to get his 4 sticks running?

Sidenote:
Is there any chance you are using the PWR-FAN connector to power a fan? Also, you have to manually set dram frequency to 1066MHz or else it will recognize it as 800MHz. So that's not unusual.

Also could you go into User CP, Edit System Specs and provide specific information about your PC?


Edit: Also keep in mind that Max. Formula over volts. My Max Formula reads the following when using Everest:
Bios................Everest Reads
1.94V...............2.05V
1.96V...............2.06V
2.02V...............2.128V
2.04V...............2.160V
2.06V...............2.176V
2.08V...............2.192V
2.10V...............2.224V

Results may vary on your board.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

You may want to consider updating your Bios to 1201 as it states "Improves Memory Compatibility"

Source

 

[memnochbcs]

yes my friend had no issues getting the 4 sticks to work. i updated bios to exactly what he has, also set the settings for his setup. only thing different is the vid card and PSU. which an asus tech told me could be the issue. but if i remove vidcard and drives still hangs at DET DRAM.

he got to bios setup even with stock bios(which i cant remember what version it was) then he updated it to 1004.

the asus tech had me try 1 stick config ---posted
then 2 stick ---posted
then 3 stick DET DRAM
swaped the sticks out all sticks will post and pass memtest in single or double setups

so he said get up with corsair about exact settings. their site said 5-5-5-15 2.2v which i tried with no luck. calling the actuall tech support Friday to see if they have any luck.

my thing is with everyone wanting to chang settings is my friend has same parts from same dealer shouldnt they run with same settings? I'll try just about anything right now

 

[EastCoasthandle]

yes my friend had no issues getting the 4 sticks to work. i updated bios to exactly what he has, also set the settings for his setup. only thing different is the vid card and PSU. which an asus tech told me could be the issue. but if i remove vidcard and drives still hangs at DET DRAM.

he got to bios setup even with stock bios(which i cant remember what version it was) then he updated it to 1004.

the asus tech had me try 1 stick config ---posted
then 2 stick ---posted
then 3 stick DET DRAM
swaped the sticks out all sticks will post and pass memtest in single or double setups

so he said get up with corsair about exact settings. their site said 5-5-5-15 2.2v which i tried with no luck. calling the actuall tech support Friday to see if they have any luck.

my thing is with everyone wanting to chang settings is my friend has same parts from same dealer shouldnt they run with same settings? I'll try just about anything right now

Could you run Everest then goto:
-File
-Preference
-OSD
-check Show OSD Panel
-check Display Labels on OSD Panel

Then goto OSD ITEMS then check off:
-north/soutbridge temps
-Dram FSB Ratio
-CPU FSB
-CPU Multiplier
-Memory Clock
-all the voltage options
and anything else you find appropriate. Hit apply then OK. You should now see an OSD to the right of your screen. Hit the printscreen key and use your imaging software to save the screenshot. Upload it here and post it in this thread. I like to see what voltages, temps, etc look like.


Below is an example of what I am talking about (to the far right). I color coordinated memory from GPU, CPU, temps, voltage, etc so that it can be read better.

 

[trt740]

What are your:
-northbridge voltage
-Dram Voltage
-Timing
-Northbridge temps





No problem

at +10mv to your ram that will fix your problem in the section near the bottom. Dram ref +10mv for the detect ram trouble with cosair memory

 

[memnochbcs]

called corsair tech support ran a few settings like
bios v.1001

ddr800 5-5-5-15
nb 1.45
dram 2.10
and auto everything else

post 2 sticks and no post on 4

removed 2 sticks and checked settings (changed nothing) checked hardware monitor under power tab and voltage was not what we set it at.
voltage listings in hardware monitor are:
NBv 1.264v
DRAMv 1.872v

after reboot voltage in hardware monitor is correct to settings.

updated to bios v.1201
same settings and no post with 4
pull 2 sticks, post, and hardware monitor is listing
NBv 1.264v
DRAMv 1.872v

after reboot voltage in hardware monitor is correct to settings.

contacted Asus with Corsair tech results and they say RMA motherboard.
Possible NB, memory banks, and/or bios issues.

 

[memnochbcs]

soon as board is back i'll check back in and post an update

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Thanks for the update, the new board should do better!

 

[memnochbcs]

new board is here, same problem. gonna try them as a 4g set in a friends gigabyte board. if they work i'll sell them to him and i'll buy a different kit cuz this is dumb. if it wont accept more then 2 sticks i'll just get 2 2gb sticks i guess

 

[iLLz]

I have the same issue with 4 x 1 GB sticks but I can get them working with some finesse. Basically I get the DET DRAM issues radomly. What I need to do is take 2 sticks out, let the PC Boot, Gracefully shut it down, then pop back in the other 2 sticks and that usually works. I hate that very much tho. I am thinking of getting a 2 x 2GB kit instead since my board is very finicky with all four slots filled. Since I can get a PC1066 set of Corsair Dominator for about $170 on Newegg why not. Save me aggrevation, then I'll sell my other four sticks.

Has anyone used the Mushkin 2 x 2GB sets yet? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146785

I wondered if they would be ok in the MF or if anyone had any compatibility issues with them in this board. For $140 its a steal and it includes 3DMark Vantage Advanced Edition - Nice incentive.

 

[AsRock]

For all your Det Ram issue's the new Asus Bios fixed them all for me and still not seen any.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=60130&highlight=Maximus+Formula
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

I use G.Skill 2GBx2 (PC8000) + Axeram 1GBx2 ( PC1200 ). all run perfect on 2.02v at either CLK4 @ 800 or CLK5 @ 1066.

 

[erocker]

I'm on the 1004 bios, use 4x1gb sticks and never get a DET_DRAM issue. My specs are on the left and here are my bios settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : x8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1203
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : Disabled with Relax of 0

CPU Voltage : 1.385 (1.368 in CPU-Z)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 (1.55 actual)
DRAM Voltage : 2.10 (2.208 actual)
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : x63
North Bridge GTL Reference : x67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : x8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

 

[AsRock]

I'm on the 1004 bios, use 4x1gb sticks and never get a DET_DRAM issue. My specs are on the left and here are my bios settings:

With my experience with 1201 those settings don't need to be set. as long as i have not pushed the ram too much i am not seeing det ram issues just not seeing them at all.

 

[iLLz]

With my experience with 1201 those settings don't need to be set. as long as i have not pushed the ram too much i am not seeing det ram issues just not seeing them at all.

Yea if you don't push the memory or overclock too much. But the thing is, this board is an OVERCLOCKERS BOARD. So we shouldn't be having these issues.

One thing I have found out that seems to be a big problem is NB Voltage. Since we are using up all the RAM Slots, the NB Voltage needs to be set high enough. I have mine set at 1.45 but you may need a little more.

Also for the DRAM Channel 0 and Channel 1 I have set this to +10mv and it seems to be working so far. No DET RAM issues after setting that as suggested by another member. I'll let you know if I get it again but so far so good. Some of you other guys/gals should try that as well so we can see if it works well for you all as well.

 

[AsRock]

Yea if you don't push the memory or overclock too much. But the thing is, this board is an OVERCLOCKERS BOARD. So we shouldn't be having these issues.

One thing I have found out that seems to be a big problem is NB Voltage. Since we are using up all the RAM Slots, the NB Voltage needs to be set high enough. I have mine set at 1.45 but you may need a little more.

Also for the DRAM Channel 0 and Channel 1 I have set this to +10mv and it seems to be working so far. No DET RAM issues after setting that as suggested by another member. I'll let you know if I get it again but so far so good. Some of you other guys/gals should try that as well so we can see if it works well for you all as well.

I don't have this issue with either set of my ram now since that bios update even over clocked too 4.2. When i mean there gone they really have gone for me with this bios.

If some one has had the det ram issue with the 1201 bios i'd like to hear of it.

 

[wonni]

...

Oh yes.. I do.

Just got my Maximus II Formula the other day, and have screwed around with it more than my wife lately (trust me, she's not very happy with that either...)
This after I thought that my "old" Maximus Formula died after showing only DET DRAM when I got back from my holidays. This happened to be the first time I shut down my computer after getting it a couple of months ago.

Anywho:
I got my 4 x 1GB Corsair Dominator PC8500,
and no chance in hell to get past DET DRAM with those sticks.

I've tried with both Kingston HyperX and Crucial BallistiX, both also PC8500, and both working great.

Tried updating bios to latest version (0802)
-No Result, still DET DRAM
Tried setting frequency to 1066mhz, timings to 5-5-5-15 and voltage to 2,2.
-No Result, still DET DRAM
Tried raising NB voltage to 1,55V
-No Result, still DET DRAM

I'm gettin' kinda tired of those Dominator sticks all together.
Is it time to give em up, or have I missed someting?

 

[ckydmk]

Does anybody know how to fix a dram hang when the computer doesnt boot at all?

 

[dodge99]

Do you have a chassis fan plugged into the PWR FAN header ?

If so unplug it

 

[Whilhelm]

Clear the CMOS and try booting with a single stick installed. You are using Ballistix so the trick would be to get something that likes this board.

 

[Frogger]

Does anybody know how to fix a dram hang when the computer doesnt boot at all?

All you would ever want to know about this Mb & I mean ALL

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179580