Alcpone's Official 3DMark '06 Compilation

[ZenZimZaliben]

Look at the scores on nvidia single card. I know the GTX260 clocks very well. But even at those increased speeds there isnt a GTX260 that beats a GTX280 with similar CPU clocks. It is on heck of a card though and a much better $/power ratio then the GTX280.

 

[Fitseries3]

BUT!

the gtx260 scales better for some odd reason.

also, alot of 280 owners complain of problems with the shaders not being able to OC very far compared to the 260.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

I am a 280 owner, and your right. Its not voltage either, its heat that limits the shaders.

What I am saying is even if the GTX280 doesnt OC as well, once OC'd the GTX260 can't catch it, without some extreme cooling thats not a 24/7 system.

I think this thread is a great example. There I am sitting below a couple GTX260s, like Tatty, yet they are all running QX9xxx cpus oc'd well above 4.0Ghz. So I am still very competitve when clocked at 3.9Ghz on my Q6600 with my OC'd GTX280. Now imagine if I had a Qx @ 4.5Ghz.

So yeah the GTX260 is one heck of a card, that oc's very well. BUt its the 240 vs 216 and the extra RAM that makes the GTX280 just the faster card...Not the better buy, and not as high of a % for OC...but in the end its just faster.

Oh and LOL.. I am behind you as well...and your at 4.6Ghz. Nice job BTW.

 

[Fitseries3]

actually my 192 card performs and OCes better than either of my 216's. the 216 kinda suck but only when compared to the 192.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Thats interesting. The extra shaders must hold back the oc? or create more heat and hold it back. At stock though the 216 is faster right?

 

[Fitseries3]

nah... they about the same. the more shaders only looks better when cpu is OCed a GOOD ways.

i tried adding more voltage and it doesnt help. cooling is the key to OCing the gtx's with more shaders.

if you could run chilled water on them they would prolly OC a long ways. a GOOD long ways.

 

[giorgos th.]

Look at the scores on nvidia single card. I know the GTX260 clocks very well. But even at those increased speeds there isnt a GTX260 that beats a GTX280 with similar CPU clocks. It is on heck of a card though and a much better $/power ratio then the GTX280.

i think there is no argue considering that i might be running 3ple SLI @ GTX280 @ 900mhz core....
and if my 965 can run more than 4800mhz @ cascade,Vantage WR is near....

 

[Fitseries3]

i think there is no argue considering that i might be running 3ple SLI @ GTX280 @ 900mhz core....

borrow me a 965 and i bet i can get within 500pts of a gtx280 rig.

 

[giorgos th.]

With the power of Grayskuuuuuuuuuuull..............

 

[Fitseries3]

oh... come on... who do i have to talk to to get even a loaner 965? i dont mind sending it back after a week or so. owning one is always better i suppose.

 

[giorgos th.]

sorry M8.....a 965 who runs wprime32 @ 5100mhz @ 1.55Vcore is not for loan......

 

[Fitseries3]

sorry M8.....a 965 who runs wprime32 @ 5100mhz @ 1.55Vcore is not for loan......

hey, question... can you do tri sli in xp? for some reason its not working for me. only 2gpus will sli.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Nope...the only way to get TRI SLI to sorta work in XP is to run 1 card like the 7900gtx and a 7950gx2. It only supports 2 PCIe slots....so you could even run quad with 2 Dual GPU cards, but thats it. Or 9800GX2 and a 9800GTX

 

[Tatty_Two]

Look at the scores on nvidia single card. I know the GTX260 clocks very well. But even at those increased speeds there isnt a GTX260 that beats a GTX280 with similar CPU clocks. It is on heck of a card though and a much better $/power ratio then the GTX280.

I agree but only by a shade.....if you look at the NVidia single scores at No 4 (TrT) and No 7 me he beats me by a bit but his quad is clocked 200mhz higher (we are both on CPU and GPU air cooling so its a fair comparison), I reckon with that 200mhz CPU speed I could match him, more importantly, looking across the Tri SLi reviews, it appears to me that the 260 can scale upto 15% better, with that added efficiency it takes away IMO any advantage the the 280 may have in that kind of setup, and in the process the user is saving considerable money.

I dont doubt that in an "extreme" cooling setup that the 280 may well edge it, fact is, if you have the tools and cooling to push a 280 to 900mhz, it is likely that the same tools and cooling would push a 260 to 975, again negating the benefits of the 280, plus costs and scalability......just my thoughts.

For the single card solution, by preference I would always take the 280, I got very lucky with that gainward 260, having said that, 3 other people in my street have bought gainwards since I got mine and all of them are hitting 790 on stock air!

 

[HeavyH20]

The GTX 280 also has one other advantage, frame buffer, especially at high resolutions (30 inch monitor). I am going to give Tri SLI with the GTX 280 a whirl. I did the step up to the GTX 280 cards. Might as well try.

As for the GTX 260 192 versus 216, the latter can only be BIOS modded to 1.15V versus the 1.18V on the 192. That buys you some extra headroom as well. But, like the 280, the shader bandwidth does help. I think you need about 100 Mhz on a 260-192 over top of a 280 to hit an even stride.

Everyone with a GTX 280 that I compare kills my result with one, two or three cards.

 

[Fitseries3]

4ghz cpu with 1 gtx260 needs 1.48v to run 3dm06 successfully.
4ghz cpu with 2 gtx260 needs 1.53v to run 3dm06 successfully.
4ghz cpu with 3 gtx260 wont finish 3dm06 at all even up to 1.6v vcore

i've tried all the settings in the bios and nothing helps.

any suggestions?

as a side note... 2 4870x2s + gtx260 runs flawlessly. on the same setup.

 

[Tatty_Two]

4ghz cpu with 1 gtx260 needs 1.48v to run 3dm06 successfully.
4ghz cpu with 2 gtx260 needs 1.53v to run 3dm06 successfully.
4ghz cpu with 3 gtx260 wont finish 3dm06 at all even up to 1.6v vcore

i've tried all the settings in the bios and nothing helps.

any suggestions?

as a side note... 2 4870x2s + gtx260 runs flawlessly. on the same setup.

NORTHBRIDGE NORTHBRIDGE NORTHBRIDGE

 

[Fitseries3]

tried that.

im up to 1.53v from 1.11v.

NB is on water and temps are fine.

any other suggestions?

 

[Tatty_Two]

tried that.

im up to 1.53v from 1.11v.

NB is on water and temps are fine.

any other suggestions?

Well i dont know that i7/x58 architecture too well, do you have PCI-E voltage? bottom line is that your lanes might be loading out to the NB and the theory is, give them more juice and they might stabilise the system and allow you to ease off on the VCore a bit......just not sure what options you have on that x58.

 

[Fitseries3]

pcie voltage is set .12v over stock and pcie is set to 112mhz.

mb is set to .5 over stock

any less vcore and it wont boot, any more and its not any better than current.

i disabled HT and now it runs but scores are shit.

 

[Drizzt5]

Add this? if you feel like it.

21k run, all i wanted was to break 20k and i did it so easily with stock 4850's... I just tried boosting it to 21k... and I broke it. I could go probably to 4.2Ghz with my q6600, and I had 1 of the 2 cards at 800/993 before I flashed it back to stock and xfired them. I think I could get 23-4k if I did everything right. Too hopeful? idc... as long as it plays my games

 

[HeavyH20]

pcie voltage is set .12v over stock and pcie is set to 112mhz.

mb is set to .5 over stock

any less vcore and it wont boot, any more and its not any better than current.

i disabled HT and now it runs but scores are shit.

What PSU are you using? Changing mine for a larger unit net me about 1000 points.

 

[Fitseries3]

pc power and cooling 1200watt + 860watt

 

[Fitseries3]

dont ask me how i did this...

i cant get my x2 to bench over 820/1000. it locks up at 825 and for some reason the mems are locked?

 

[p_o_s_pc]

how did you do that fit?


is it possible to SLI a 9800GT and a 8800GT if the 8800GT was flashed to a 9800GT? If so can it be done on a 790GX?