i7 running hot? Gimme a break.

aximbigfan · Aug 15, 2009

Heh, ok so the title maybe a little overboard, but I have noticed a TON of i7 owners around here that claim that their STOCK i7 is running at insane temps. My i7 temp is very reasonable, something like ~90F idle, and 130F load. Not bad at all considering that's about what all my computer's temps are.

I have a feeling a lot of these reports come from people either not putting their heatsink on quite right, or have poor case ventilation, especially since I have a small HSF, and I still have great temps.

I would like to see what other peoples stock temps are, so let's start a database...

Post your...
- i7 number (and stepping)
- Cooler
- Thermal paste
- Motherboard
- Case
- Idle temp
- Load temp

For me,
- 920 D0
- XIGMATEK HDT-S963
- Arctic Silver 5
- Asus P6T
- Cooler Master Storm Scout
- 90 F
- 130 F

wolf · Aug 15, 2009

oh man, to reboot and go back to stock.... maybe tomorrow

Honestly having done it I know my temps are very reasonable, I could overclock but not stress test on my stock cooler, and with a coolermaster V10 4.2ghz is well containable.

I'll try help you out with results but I have a heap of GFX benching to do tonight/tomorrow

DanishDevil · Aug 15, 2009

- i7 920 D0
- Full Copper Prototype Xigmatek Achilles S-1284
- Shin Etsu 7763D
- GA-EX58-UD3R
- None
- 31C
- 51C

AddSub · Aug 15, 2009

My summer temps at 4.3Ghz AND stock, with daily ambient fluctuations and with all fans running at 100%. (more below on my air setup)

- i7 920 C0 (batch 3841)
- Cooler Master V8 (modded)
- standard 10% silver compound
- EVGA X58 (E758)
- Cooler Master Cosmos 1000 (modded)
- 19-22 stock, 21-23 OC'd
- 42-45 stock, 44-47 OC'd

I got massive "air power" setup going on. Discounting two GTX 280 fans I have eight 120mm fans, one 140mm fan, and a single 40mm fan. Entire setup breaks down to three Ultra Kaze 3000 fans @ 133.6 CFM each, five Antec Tricool fans @ 79CFM each, and one Xion 140mm fan @ 83.6 CFM. Plus two GTX 280 fans on exaust duty and a single 40mm fan on the front HD rack on the intake duty. And yes at full power it is quite loud and I had to do some weight mods due to vibration issues. (I had to add 30 lbs of extra weight to the case) Also, I use DigitalDoc5 module that can control up to eight fans so I don't actually run the whole thing at 100% 24/7. (Only for benching, gaming, or heavy duty work.) All in all it is sort of a liquid cooled setup without any actual liquid cooling (and all the hassle that goes with it) with the exception that it is much, MUCH, louder than any LC setup. (A pair of decent circumaural headphones take care of the noise, sort of.)

flyin15sec · Aug 16, 2009

AddSub said:
My summer temps at 4.3Ghz AND stock, with daily ambient fluctuations and with all fans running at 100%. (more below on my air setup)

- i7 920 C0 (batch 3841)
- Cooler Master V8 (modded)
- standard 10% silver compound
- EVGA X58 (E758)
- Cooler Master Cosmos 1000 (modded)
- 19-22 stock, 21-23 OC'd
- 42-45 stock, 44-47 OC'd

Your temps are downright impossible, or your using the wrong TJ on your temp reading software.

FordGT90Concept · Aug 16, 2009

Intel Core i7 920 w/ HT (C0/C1 stepping)
Scythe MUGEN-2 w/ stock fan (1 x 120mm)
Arctic Silver Compound 5 (copious amounts)
DFI LanParty DK X58
NZXT Zero 2 w/ stock fans (3 x 120mm)
~40C
~60C
Picture (has low and high)

Ambient is around 24C. Load is WCG/BOINC running 100%.

Duxx · Aug 16, 2009

AddSub said:
My summer temps at 4.3Ghz AND stock, with daily ambient fluctuations and with all fans running at 100%. (more below on my air setup)

- i7 920 C0 (batch 3841)
- Cooler Master V8 (modded)
- standard 10% silver compound
- EVGA X58 (E758)
- Cooler Master Cosmos 1000 (modded)
- 19-22 stock, 21-23 OC'd
- 42-45 stock, 44-47 OC'd

I got massive "air power" setup going on. Discounting two GTX 280 fans I have eight 120mm fans, one 140mm fan, and a single 40mm fan. Entire setup breaks down to three Ultra Kaze 3000 fans @ 133.6 CFM each, five Antec Tricool fans @ 79CFM each, and one Xion 140mm fan @ 83.6 CFM. Plus two GTX 280 fans on exaust duty and a single 40mm fan on the front HD rack on the intake duty. And yes at full power it is quite loud and I had to do some weight mods due to vibration issues. (I had to add 30 lbs of extra weight to the case) Also, I use DigitalDoc5 module that can control up to eight fans so I don't actually run the whole thing at 100% 24/7. (Only for benching, gaming, or heavy duty work.) All in all it is sort of a liquid cooled setup without any actual liquid cooling (and all the hassle that goes with it) with the exception that it is much, MUCH, louder than any LC setup. (A pair of decent circumaural headphones take care of the noise, sort of.)

Pics or it didn't happen. I can hardly believe those numbers myself..

PaulieG · Aug 16, 2009

Duxx said:
Pics or it didn't happen. I can hardly believe those numbers myself..

I think a cpu-z and a coretemp/realtemp screenie should be included for everyone submitting.

Duxx · Aug 16, 2009

Paulieg said:
I think a cpu-z and a coretemp/realtemp screenie should be included for everyone submitting.

Agreed.

and its a C0 :eek:

DanishDevil · Aug 16, 2009

I'll post up the pix lata.

Also, make sure you specify that we want auto voltage, not undervolted. And have the load program be IntelBurnTest with people running realtemp in the background, then their min and max temps will serve as the numbers.

REVHEAD · Aug 16, 2009

With these temps please state if your running Hyperthreading or not, there is a 5 deg temp differance alone right there.

Zubasa · Aug 16, 2009

Give the guy a break, maybe the guy is living in Greenland. :roll:

AddSub · Aug 16, 2009

Give the guy a break, maybe the guy is living in Greenland.

Nothing so exotic. More like Chicago, right in the middle of USA. Low idle on i7+air is really easily achievable with obliging ambient temperature, especially with power-efficient CPU's we have today, what with SpeedStep and all. As for load, I don't use IntelBurnTest. (Never used that app.)

Anywho, I don't see anything bizzare with my results. My ambient/room temp is always below 20-21C this time of year, what with the AC working non-stop. Heck, my room temp is 67F right now, as per the digital read-out on the wall behind my back, (around 19-20C) Ambient is what really matters with air cooling. Heck, take your heatsink off completely and go outdoors somewhere really cold, like "Greenland" or Chicago in winter-time and you will get great results. For a short time at least. Depending on how long it takes moisture to concentrate in a "right" spot.

Anyways, there was similar response on the "interwebs" to my little "winter mod" with a OC'd A64 CPU back in 2007 and I even provided a screen-grab that time. Screen-grab below:

How about 4C idle on air?

Of course it helps that I was piping in cold February air from outside via custom duct. (outside air temp: anywhere from -15 to -20 with windchill)

Coming this winter, i7 @ below 5C/idle on air? We'll see, if the weather is willing and with a lifetime EVGA warranty on this mobo, then who knows. Anything might happen.

Mussels · Aug 16, 2009

that program you're using has no guarantees of accuracy - use realtemp, or the result is invalid

AddSub · Aug 16, 2009

What program? In the shot above? That's MyGuard. I haven't run that since I sold my last AMD board last year. I use Everest Ultimate nowadays.

Mussels · Aug 16, 2009

even everest isnt that good, they take a wild guess as to what TJmax is and therefore have inaccurate readings.

flyin15sec · Aug 16, 2009

AddSub said:
Nothing so exotic. More like Chicago, right in the middle of USA. Low idle on i7+air is really easily achievable with obliging ambient temperature, especially with power-efficient CPU's we have today, what with SpeedStep and all. As for load, I don't use IntelBurnTest. (Never used that app.)

Anywho, I don't see anything bizzare with my results. My ambient/room temp is always below 20-21C this time of year, what with the AC working non-stop. Heck, my room temp is 67F right now, as per the digital read-out on the wall behind my back, (around 19-20C) Ambient is what really matters with air cooling. Heck, take your heatsink off completely and go outdoors somewhere really cold, like "Greenland" or Chicago in winter-time and you will get great results. For a short time at least. Depending on how long it takes moisture to concentrate in a "right" spot.

Coming this winter, i7 @ below 5C/idle on air? We'll see, if the weather is willing and with a lifetime EVGA warranty on this mobo, then who knows. Anything might happen.

I can see you getting those temps in the middle of winter. NOT in Chicago summer time with a 4.3ghz overclock.

It's IMPOSSIBLE for you to have ambient of 67F and and idle cpu core of 19C(66F). Remember the movie "My Cousin Vinny", here's quote from it:

Well, I guess the laws of physics cease to exist on top of your stove. Were these magic grits? Did you buy them from the same guy who sold Jack his beanstalk beans?

So I'll ask you this: ..the laws of physics cease to exist inside your case. Are those magic fans you have in there?

FordGT90Concept · Aug 16, 2009

The only way you could get temps that low is with phase change cooling. Either you have a borked diode or the software you're using is no good. I check my temps with CPUID HW Monitor.

AddSub · Aug 16, 2009

The only way you could get temps that low is with phase change cooling.

Nothing so drastic. Low ambient will do, just as always. Especially with power efficient CPU's. (SpeedStep and all that.) Right now it is 20C/68F idle as per screen grab, depending on the background load. (Biggest offender right now is the eMule process.) Ambient room temperature is 66F, which is something like between 18C and 19C.

Also, any EVGA X58 owners out there: please pay attention to the VRM temperature.

aximbigfan · Aug 16, 2009

I am running hyperthreading, although I'm not sure if it is really a helpful thing or not...

nascasho · Aug 16, 2009

aximbigfan said:
I am running hyperthreading, although I'm not sure if it is really a helpful thing or not...

Nope, unless you encode 24/7. BUT, I've seen many benches where it's taken advantage of in Win 7, so leave it on.

Mussels · Aug 16, 2009

AddSub said:
Nothing so drastic. Low ambient will do, just as always. Especially with power efficient CPU's. (SpeedStep and all that.) Right now it is 20C/68F idle as per screen grab, depending on the background load. (Biggest offender right now is the eMule process.) Ambient room temperature is 66F, which is something like between 18C and 19C.

so your CPU is breaking the laws of physics, eh?

if your ambient is 18C, it is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for ANYTHING without phase change cooling (refrigerator, freezer, TEC, air conditioner etc) to get below ambient temps.

Due to the fact your PC is actually on and that idle states dont draw 0W of power its guaranteed you're going to be 2-3C above ambient - and that means that so far, we can tell your temps are at least 5C out.

AddSub · Aug 16, 2009

In addition to the Everest screen-grab above here is a HWMonitor screen-grab as well. I've turned off eMule and any other offenders and taken off the side panel. Now the temp keeps alternating between 19C and 21C.

Zubasa · Aug 16, 2009

I see 33C and 35C on that pic.
So your motherboard's diode is either fucked up or it just plain sucks.

AddSub · Aug 16, 2009

I see 33C and 35C on that pic.
So your motherboard's diode is either fucked up or it just plain sucks.

Singular reading is the diode and the other four readings are per core estimates. (as seen clearly in the Everest screen-grab) I'm just showing what I'm seeing.

As per CPU Temp guide at Tom's HW:

Core i7 and Core 2 processors have 2 different types of temperature sensors; a CPU case (not computer case) Thermal Diode centered under the Cores, and Digital Thermal Sensors located on each Core. The case Thermal Diode measures Tcase (Temperature case), which is CPU temperature, and the Digital Thermal Sensors measure Tjunction (Temperature junction), which is Core temperature. Since these sensors measure 2 distinct thermal levels, there is a 5c temperature difference between them, which is Tcase to Tjunction Gradient. Ci7â€™s and C2Q's have 1 Tcase and 4 Tjunction sensors, while C2D's have 1 Tcase and 2 Tjunction sensors. Uncalibrated default temperatures are seldom accurate.

Link: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/221745-29-sticky-core-core-temperature-guide

HWMonitor shows my power draw as low as 28W. (Balanced power scheme.)

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