COD:MW2 , cod4 freeze bug strikes back!!!

[RoutedScripter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeLvfxb_GRw

People are saying on youtube they have perfect PCs and also it's the ONLY game(cod4) that makes this kind of freeze people would misunderstood as RAM and GPU problems. Even I though that but I tested my machine and upgraded ram and still the same (however if it is GPU overheating it's is not yet fully clear)

One guy had a brand new alienware PC and he had the same problem right there.

Discuss. (more info on what was I doing before is in video description in cod4 freeze video , it's linked video response , and the old thread is http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=104166 )


UPD1

When I updated Realtek HD drivers , the problem was immediately more frequent , and it also froze in youtube full screen view when I was watching 3Dgameman through his site's embedded video. Weird. The GPU is out now, at least for me , next one is definitely Realtek onboard sound chip (maybe it's just too much for him to handle the load?)

EDIT: March 2010.
Some of the stuff above might be out of date (or we eliminated some supspects , GPU is one of them ) , I had problems for a year before actually posting all of it into this threads (and the other about cod4) so I might be wrong on some thing, I hope not , but better to read the whole thread if you link this issue to others who are experiencing similar problems , what is common in all this games cod4 , MW2 and lately also BC2 , they are all multiplatform games , while cod4 stands out as the most true PC version it does have some console stuff (how did the FOV 65 xbox habbit got into the PC ? )

Report if links stop working.

More edits will be coming , it's a long thread so I will make proper summary.

 

[Sir_Real]

MW2 never crashed on me yet. But i'm just temping fate by saying it !

 

[MilkyWay]

i guess only to wait for a patch as i dont think its a user end error i think its a bug in the actual game

 

[CDdude55]

It has a resolution bug, you sometimes need to keep it at its default res just to not get it to crash.

There should be some patches rolling out soon tho.(or at least i hope)

 

[chchyong89]

WIN_OUT_OF_MEM_BODY
"Out of memory error. You are probably low on hard disk space."


WIN_OUT_OF_MEM_TITLE
"Out of memory error"


WIN_UNABLE_LOAD_DLL_BODY
"Unable to load a DLL. Possibly due to low memory, insufficient hard drive space, or missing DLL files."


WIN_DIRECTX_INIT_TITLE
"DirectX Error"

WIN_DIRECTX_INIT_BODY
"DirectX encountered an unrecoverable error.


omg i get plenty of problems on my system @@

it just ate all of my 2GB ram when i am inside the game

 

[RoutedScripter]

WIN_OUT_OF_MEM_BODY
"Out of memory error. You are probably low on hard disk space."


WIN_OUT_OF_MEM_TITLE
"Out of memory error"


WIN_UNABLE_LOAD_DLL_BODY
"Unable to load a DLL. Possibly due to low memory, insufficient hard drive space, or missing DLL files."


WIN_DIRECTX_INIT_TITLE
"DirectX Error"

WIN_DIRECTX_INIT_BODY
"DirectX encountered an unrecoverable error.


omg i get plenty of problems on my system @@

it just ate all of my 2GB ram when i am inside the game

That won't be the same problem , you are experiencing totally different one , none of us ever had this message.

But If there is a connection , we need more info...

 

[RoutedScripter]

One youtube comment suggested that call of duty is very sensetive to ram , and gpu ram , so overclocking is not recommended , (yes cods are very need of a stable ram)

The problem arises when I don't even have anything OCd

But to prove it , I did a test with HD4870 at 800Mhz memory that's 100mhz underclock, and 100% fan speed , (the graphic settings are maxed out in the game)

It took about 40 minutes to get the freeze , but I thought for a minute it's going to work , nope still not

(I played the second mission in specops , on veteran , i keept playing it , nope didn't complete yet)

so the temps are low, i though a high temp of 83 from MEMIO was high from before , but this time every temp was not more than 65 at all times , and still froze. The file ends , when it froze the pc.

This should leave the GPU from the problem for now.

So the next thing , is system memory too hot and realtek onboard sound (i am using 5.1 sorround so that chip has a lot of work to do especially I have settings maxed out)

If system memory would be hot , it would froze in prime95 , but an overnight burn was successful , with realtek , um , I am not getting MW2 to run with -nosound command line parameter , cause I don't know it exactly , but I know this command existed for cod4 cause IW mentioned it especially. (I want to run it without drivers and/or disabled sound card via device mng / bios) Already asked bashnslash tweaking forums about this commandline.

 

[Mussels]

my game ran perfectly fine, completed SP with no worries.

gave the game back to its owner (friends steam account) so i cant test MP, but SP ran just fine here.

i did have the 'stuttering' in the cinematic movies thats fixed by disabling "sync every frame" but that seems unrelated to this issue.

 

[RoutedScripter]

my game ran perfectly fine, completed SP with no worries.

gave the game back to its owner (friends steam account) so i cant test MP, but SP ran just fine here.

i did have the 'stuttering' in the cinematic movies thats fixed by disabling "sync every frame" but that seems unrelated to this issue.

Well this is a problem only with certain people , and nobody knows what the hell is going on , and findings are , that A LOT have this problem , but most aren't knowing it's the same issue , I am the first who started to talk about this problem over the web and posted videos about it on youtube , cause everybody though it was the hardware(ram,gpu) problem with only their rig ;; but everything I did as I thought the same , from buying new Corsair ram over the buggy mushkin , didn't make a difference , from checking power req and that I have enough Ampers , many more other checks , non OCd everything ... now the GPU seem too to not be the culprit anymore (at least the TEMPs). My next bet is on realtek onboard sound ... On the other hand , many people reported same EXACT error , with TOTALLY different hardware setups.


That stuttering is cause it isn't optimzed as well as cod4 for PC , SP is really laggy when you start to play ;; they said how texture streaming will help for faster loading and larger maps possible ... I didn't saw this yet.


And I see you have a separate sound card , maybe there's something common to us , who are using maxed out settings with 5.1 sorround channel and a weakly ol' integrated one. hmm? If you have time and willing to help , and some nerves of course , you can try to test w/o the soundcard (and with the integrated one) , ... maybe it's not just realtek problem. If too risky , you just leave everything so you don't mess it up.

 

[Mussels]

maybe the games going over the 2GB address space limit, and only crashing on 32 bit users with high texture settings?

its becoming more and more common these days.


edit: i cant use my onboard sound. i erm... lost it.
(its detachable)

 

[RoutedScripter]

maybe the games going over the 2GB address space limit, and only crashing on 32 bit users with high texture settings?

its becoming more and more common these days.


edit: i cant use my onboard sound. i erm... lost it.
(its detachable)

It doesn't make sense how it would sometimes freeze in minutes , other times I would play for about 40 min or more , also note MW2 freezes 3x times more frequent than cod4.

I will check my ram usage , yes I have 32bit xp pro and 2GB ram (corsair ram there is ) About ram being too hot , well , I can only say , it's alot cooler than the mushikin ones. But I don't have idea on temps yet.


Oh one thing I have to add , my HD4870 was a sapphire model with broken BIOS and it's the revision 1 with red cooler ; I updated the bios it was ok then , the card was freezing cause poweplay made too low Voltage and it froze with screen corruption in games. The Voltage is now always at all times 1.2625.

Oh , detachable .. right.

 

[R_1]

MW2 is very GPU intensive game and nowadays GPUs are factory clocked to their maximum, so some Windows TDR may occur. Try downclock your GPU. I am sure that this will help. See for yourself.

 

[RoutedScripter]

MW2 is very GPU intensive game and nowadays GPUs are factory clocked to their maximum, so some Windows TDR may occur. Try downclock your GPU. I am sure that this will help. See for yourself.

Couldn't go lower than this , or else I would need to edit bios.



Anyways , the search goes on..

 

[R_1]

Then increase GPU voltage a little bit. Keep in mind that improved cooling might be needed.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

maybe the games going over the 2GB address space limit, and only crashing on 32 bit users with high texture settings?

its becoming more and more common these days.


edit: i cant use my onboard sound. i erm... lost it.
(its detachable)

I am going to vote with Mussels on this. I play COD4 and it never crashed on me. Not once in 2 years. You need a 64-bit OS and more RAM. I am not sure how RAM intensive the game actually is, but if you run out of RAM (which can vary based on the section of the game you are it) it will fail because disk paging files aren't going to cut it.

You say a lot of people have this issue, well a lot of people still have XP 32-bit.

 

[RoutedScripter]

I have some definitive facts now , the GPU is with this problem no longer on the list (for now) , I tested MW2 in safe mode and it froze in minutes , the sound was not changed at all , it was maxed out and there's no advanced settings to lower the quality.

Realtek onboard sound card is the prime suspect now , and one thing is still not solved ,how to run COD4 and MW2 in noaudio mode , such a command line switch must exist no? Contacted Activision , no response yet also the tweaking forums around didn't find a solution yet.

Im going to play with dx and hardware acceleration hopefully that forces lower sound quality.

 

[Nick89]

i guess only to wait for a patch as i dont think its a user end error i think its a bug in the actual game

With the support IW has shown us so far, I'd be surprised if there was a patch made in the next 4 months.

 

[RevengE]

thats why i never buy a game when it first comes out..I wait for patches.

 

[CorsairX]

Mine also crashes to desktop with an error window. Friday, I will try the game again as soon as I install my new goodies.

 

[Mussels]

Mine also crashes to desktop with an error window. Friday, I will try the game again as soon as I install my new goodies.

let me guess: 32 bit windows, with a 1GB video card? running the game on extra textures, or on auto at a high resolution like 1080p?

 

[CorsairX]

let me guess: 32 bit windows, with a 1GB video card? running the game on extra textures, or on auto at a high resolution like 1080p?

lol no

Installing Win7 64Bit, Corsair H50, Q8400 CPU, New WD 7200RPM 32MB Cache.

Let see after all this installed, If I still get an error window.

 

[Mussels]

lol no

Installing Win7 64Bit, Corsair H50, Q8400 CPU, New WD 7200RPM 32MB Cache.

Let see after all this installed, If I still get an error window.

we'd been seeing a trend of 32 bit users crashing, thats all. trying to track it down.

 

[Ahhzz]

ran mine last night, and the thing I noticed, was that occasionally, the screen goes to the extreme of whatever environment you're in (on the tarmac, went completely white, in an alley went all black). It was still responsive for a few seconds, but then would lock/freeze. I got around this by immediately loading the last checkpoint, which saved me from completely restarting the game. Would lose whatever progress I'd made since the last CP, but better than a complete freeze and losing it anyways

 

[Sir_Real]

Seems to be alot of pointing the finger at win XP 32bit being the prob.

I have two gaming rigs with XP 32BIT installed. Both also have MW2 installed & i've never had any probs with the game. & i run with max settings & high res.

 

[RoutedScripter]

Maybe I didn't mentioned ,that the freeze makes the whole pc go down , no HDD activity also.


For the moment , who had the freeze also reported they have integrated realtek sound card (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeLvfxb_GRw)