ASUS M4A89GTOD PRO RS890 Motherboard Pictured

[TheLostSwede]

That's only a problem with cases that has the PSU at the top, but no, the original idea was just what I said, trust me, I really do know what I'm talking about here. I'm not saying it's an issue on this board, it just doesn't make a lot of sense the way they've placed them here, regular DIMM slots would've been just fine.

 

[pantherx12]

think I've been tinkering for computers a while longer than you...

I'm not going to argue with you, but that's a stupid thing to say, you've no idea just how long I've been a tinkering


I will apologise for the smartness though as I feel stupid as I didn't realise you could get ram slots with clips only at one end. ( and thus have an upside down)

Every motherboard I've seen has clips both sides.

I imagine it's just a mistake on a preproduction model.

 

[gnesterenko]

Meh

Wander why they would showcase a 890G with the 800SB chip mobo first. Seems to me the prudent course would be what MSI did - show us the enthusiast board first since we are the folks are going to be the early adopters and shell out the dough before the rest of the market. This is the integrated chipset and while would be above average, is not what the performance/gamer crowd will go after. So with that, a big MEH to this board. Give me 890FX and 850SB. SATA 6 is nice, USB3, but most importantly 2x 16PCI2.0 slots.

So, can't wait to see the performance 890FX board from ASUS, as that will be my next purchase, no doubt it about it. Probably will stick with a fast dual core AM3 (at first, to keep down costs), but then drop in an hexa-core upgrade once they are past the first stepping of the manufacturing process. Considering that will probably be the last and fastest chip on the AM3 platform, it should retain its resale value pretty well (just like my socket 939 64-bit X2 4800+ chip is now - selling on eBay for 2x the cost of current, faster dual cores. I was as surprised as you)

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[newtekie1]

That's only a problem with cases that has the PSU at the top, but no, the original idea was just what I said, trust me, I really do know what I'm talking about here. I'm not saying it's an issue on this board, it just doesn't make a lot of sense the way they've placed them here, regular DIMM slots would've been just fine.

Regular DIMM slots would have been fine, but these are better. If you can eliminate a possible hassle for the user, I say do it.

And no, they were not designed entirely to eliminate the graphics card clearance issue, trust me, people have been breaking off those stupid latches for years to make the DIMMs easier to insert and remove. The motherboard manufacturers just finally caught on...

 

[btarunr]

Maybe it's just that they have a pile of one-side retention DIMM slots. Even with the retention clip on the 'wrong' side, it doesn't look like it will interfere with the video card.

 

[pantherx12]

I find clips work pretty well, push one side of ram then the other, simples as the annoying Meerkat on tv says.

 

[newtekie1]

Its not putting them in so much as removing them that is the hassle.

Just to give you an idea, this is my AMD rig in my sig:

That picture is a little older, so I'm using the taller G.Skill RAM in the black slots because the yellow is blocked by the CPU cooler. When I switched to shorter sticks, it was actually a real hassle to get in there to unlatch the top latches(not to mention a pain getting the stick to slide under the heatsink and then engage the latch with no real way to put pressure on that side of the stick). Now, if I ever wanted to to get the stick in the first yellow slot out again, it would be next to impossible for me to get my hand down in the small space to unlatch it, but then again I guess that is why God invented the Bic pen.

Not going to be a problem for everyone, but some, and if you can eliminate the hassle for some, it is a good thing. IMO.

 

[pantherx12]

I just pop the top clips and pull the ram from the top, works the same way as only having one clip, bottom set of clips will get undone from the leverage anyway : ]


Edit* that picture wasn't there when I posted this, seems like a case design flaw rather then motherboard problem, damn that's tight.



Also clean your exhaust fan, its filthy

 

[InnocentCriminal]

No, I just wish people would spend 5 seconds reading shit before making stupid statements :shadedshu

Nobody is perfect, and I was at work (on my lunch) so most of my attention was elsewhere. Is it really necessary to be so hostile in your posts? If so, then expect some sort of retaliation from 'smart-asses'.

Back on topic and it's interesting, but expected to see (now) SATA 6.0Gbps being implemented into the board, again - even if it isn't necessary right now.

 

[Hunt3r]

I want this one to see
hehe

 

[a_ump]

isn't necessary? course it is. When i formatted my computer and backed up my music to my flashdrive it took a long ass time to transfer the 3.6X?GB of music back to my pc after formatting. If it'd been USB 3.0 it could've taken hopefully 1/4th of the time, if not faster. USB 3.0 i think will be awesome when transfering big files, that's what i'm looking forward too.

 

[newtekie1]

I just pop the top clips and pull the ram from the top, works the same way as only having one clip, bottom set of clips will get undone from the leverage anyway : ]


Edit* that picture wasn't there when I posted this, seems like a case design flaw rather then motherboard problem, damn that's tight.



Also clean your exhaust fan, its filthy

Yeah, the case is very tight, but I actually wanted a small case, this machine was/is intended to be a rather portable rig for LAN parties and such. I'm not saying it is a motherboard flaw, but that doesn't mean a small change to the motherboard wouldn't help the situation. I would actually love to have a few of those memory slots with no latch at the top in this case.

The case was actually re-used from my old 939 rig, that is why it is a little dusty. The case fan was replaced a few weeks later(I forgot to order it with the rest of the parts).

 

[eidairaman1]

I find clips work pretty well, push one side of ram then the other, simples as the annoying Meerkat on tv says.

If spaced properly the latches enable proper insertion and removal of ram, I remember the Assus P4S8X having broken one of the latches- wound up having to learn how much force was needed to remove the modules, I moved to a MSI K7N2 Delta-L and didn't have that problem.

Another point being, Ram needs to be spaced a little further away from the CPU slot due to the shear size of CPU cooling.

 

[kenkickr]

Ram needs to be spaced a little further away from the CPU slot due to the shear size of CPU cooling.

Couldn't agree with you more. That is one reason, besides reliability, that I go with Crucial. They do not make any tall ass sticks that would conflict with the bigger heatsinks. I'm one of those anal type of people that likes everything to match/look nice.

I wish alot of manufacturers would setup the ram clips like the Asus P7P55D board we sell at work. One end is stationary and the other actually is the clip. I've never broken a clip but I know friends that have and I believe that would really help out the novice builder.

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

This board seems like a re-hash/ minor update to the 790GX, the board isn't even designed any different. Kinda sad, it show a lack of effort IMO.

 

[Super XP]

I've noticed the re-hash in many AMD based motherboards from all companies. I don't see this with Intel motherboards. What Asus, MSI & Gigabyte etc. need to do is innovate, put some extra stuff on the mobo's and convince me to buy a new one from them. I've noticed the same thing going from Socket 939 to Socket AM2 to AM2+ and now to AM3. They all look the same with very little differences.

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

I've noticed the re-hash in many AMD based motherboards from all companies. I don't see this with Intel motherboards. What Asus, MSI & Gigabyte etc. need to do is innovate, put some extra stuff on the mobo's and convince me to buy a new one from them. I've noticed the same thing going from Socket 939 to Socket AM2 to AM2+ and now to AM3. They all look the same with very little differences.

It's not just that they all look roughly the same, there really very little in distinctive features preformance or otherwise in the AMD Chipsets, ZOMG look 1 extra 16x PCI-E slot and it's sold as a major improvement. Example, there is almost no difference in the 785, and 790 chipset. More over the lack of a 5xxx built in the new 890's is just a dissapointment, because we all know 3 months down the road the 895 or w/e will come out with such a feature. This isn't a 3rd party problem this is all about AMD doleing out new features with an eye dropper to keep people upgrading, it's just sad. Look at intel, a new chip comes out, a new chipset comes out to support it, not 2-4 chipsets in 1 year all with little or no difference from eachother.

 

[Mussels]

its because AMD chipsets keep it nice and simple.

One MATX chipset, one ATX chipset, one high end ATX chipset.

The mobo manufs are all sales suck with our overpriced product, what to do? so they paint it a different color, put fake power saving crap on there, and try and re-sell it...

 

[Super XP]

You make a very valid point. Now the question is how do we get AMD to stop fooling around with it's chipsets? They should follow Intel's lead ASAP. They will gain a lot more attention and customers IMO.

I bought a 790FX/SB600 chipset based motherboard way back, and a few months later they release the 790FX/SB750 That pissed me off because I was having issues with the SB600. All you have to do is google it and its problematic. So why on earth would they release it? They just should have waited for the SB750 to get released.

Sometimes I wonder about AMD, though I do love there hardware and there price/performance.

its because AMD chipsets keep it nice and simple.

One MATX chipset, one ATX chipset, one high end ATX chipset.

The mobo manufs are all sales suck with our overpriced product, what to do? so they paint it a different color, put fake power saving crap on there, and try and re-sell it...

You took the words right out of my mouth
I bet if ASUS was to release a plain 850FX/SB850 chipset based motherboard, painted it UV RED and called it something like Asus Red Dragon Edition with absolutely nothing special and charged people $300+ for it, they would probably sell out completely. I know I would be one of those suckers

 

[Super XP]

Notice how your CPU's Heatsink/Fan is blocking one of your DDR's DIMMs and almost rubbing against your other Ram? Don't you think its about time AMD fixed this problem. Intel does not have this problem, there retention bracket is square so you have easy moverability.

Its not putting them in so much as removing them that is the hassle.

Just to give you an idea, this is my AMD rig in my sig:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/newtekie1/4200build/4200build4.jpg

That picture is a little older, so I'm using the taller G.Skill RAM in the black slots because the yellow is blocked by the CPU cooler. When I switched to shorter sticks, it was actually a real hassle to get in there to unlatch the top latches(not to mention a pain getting the stick to slide under the heatsink and then engage the latch with no real way to put pressure on that side of the stick). Now, if I ever wanted to to get the stick in the first yellow slot out again, it would be next to impossible for me to get my hand down in the small space to unlatch it, but then again I guess that is why God invented the Bic pen.

Not going to be a problem for everyone, but some, and if you can eliminate the hassle for some, it is a good thing. IMO.

 

[Kei]

You make a very valid point. Now the question is how do we get AMD to stop fooling around with it's chipsets? They should follow Intel's lead ASAP. They will gain a lot more attention and customers IMO.

I bought a 790FX/SB600 chipset based motherboard way back, and a few months later they release the 790FX/SB750 That pissed me off because I was having issues with the SB600. All you have to do is google it and its problematic. So why on earth would they release it? They just should have waited for the SB750 to get released.

The SB600 wasn't suppposed to be part of the 790FX boards originally. The only reason they were on any FX boards was because the SB7XX series chipsets got pushed back for release later on. So they had to do something with the highend chipset or risk losing out even more...bring on the SB600.

The M3A32-MVP with SB600 was an amazing board (almost legendary I dare say) even to this day. I just finally sold mine to make the jump to full AM3, but I'll probably regret selling that board forever. It impressed me all the way up to the last day I owned it.
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As for innovations on some of the new boards I would LOVE to see some manufacturers on the AMD side of the fence start producing boards with super beefy cooling like I see on the Intel boards from the likes of Gigabyte, EVGA, and ASUS. I know that the AMD processors run a lower temps and all that, but it would still be great to see the northbridge's, southbridges, and mosfets get some beefy cooling love too! The coolers they use now are very nice sure, but I just want to see some of the more ridiculous looking offerings on our side of the fence too!

Gimme a Gitabyte UD7 for an AMD rig! It looks so ridiculous/insane....AND I WANT IT!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128413

Kei

 

[Super XP]

Agreed. There's so much choice when it comes to Intel motherboards and they do look so much better. It would be nice if AMD had some nice looking mobo's and a lot more to choose from. Even ASUS skimps on hardware with there AMD mobo's. MSI finally stepped it up a knotch so hopefully we will see much better AM3 mobo's in the very near future to choose from.

 

[Disparia]

Since the Radeon HD 3450 became the Radeon HD 4200 IGP in the RS880 chipset, are we to assume that the RD890 chipsets will also have an IGP derived from the RV620 GPU or can we expect an RV710 based IGP?

Unless it has changed since then:

Might be named the HD 4300 because of the higher stock clock?

In related news, Catalyst 10.1's will supposedly allow Hybrid Crossfire between RS880 IGP's and upcoming Cedar (HD 5350) cards.

 

[Mussels]

Unless it has changed since then:

http://www.theburnerishot.com/photo/800-Series.jpg

Might be named the HD 4300 because of the higher stock clock?

In related news, Catalyst 10.1's will supposedly allow Hybrid Crossfire between RS880 IGP's and upcoming Cedar (HD 5350) cards.

it'll be the 5200, because they're re-using some old GPU's for the low end 5k cards (DX10.1 GPU's)

That way, hybrid crossfire is still the same as the 780/785G boards - low end cheap crap only

 

[Disparia]

If it doesn't offer more than an RV620 IGP/RV620 Pro (3470) combo, I won't be too disappointed. Was just hoping to pack a little more power into my NES project. Will have to see how it all plays out at release.