Folding Pie and Milestones!!

[Easy Rhino]

Last updated: Wed Jan 27 00:00:03 PST 2010 (fah-web.stanford)

Easy_Rhino 1000014
MStenholm 997748

Congratulation

it was another close one. id say race yea to 2 million but i need to back this rig off of folding for a bit.

 

[mstenholm]

4 hours apart, yes another close one. 2 M it is.

I stopped folding for about ½ hour after I hit the 1 M since I was sure that the high frequency that's in my ears all the time was due to the folding. Hmm, it was not from my GPU so it is back on. You got your self a GTX280, I just got two shipping notices just an hour ago - one for a 250 and one for a i920. After a bit of stablility testing (crunching) I guess that a new folding rig will work for the team (and me hitting the 2 M first )

 

[Easy Rhino]

4 hours apart, yes another close one. 2 M it is.

I stopped folding for about ½ hour after I hit the 1 M since I was sure that the high frequency that's in my ears all the time was due to the folding. Hmm, it was not from my GPU so it is back on. You got your self a GTX280, I just got two shipping notices just an hour ago - one for a 250 and one for a i920. After a bit of stablility testing (crunching) I guess that a new folding rig will work for the team (and me hitting the 2 M first )

heh, well i doubt i will be able to continue folding at this rate. i need to back off for stability sake. you can have 2 million, lets shoot for 10 million.

 

[mstenholm]

heh, well i doubt i will be able to continue folding at this rate. i need to back off for stability sake. you can have 2 million, lets shoot for 10 million.

I will back down on the OC as well otherwise I doubt that any of my hardware will make it to 2 M. I just lost right audio channel

 

[El Fiendo]

@El Fiendo
I've been having the same problems too. PPD has dropped by nearly half on core 14. I think I finished 2 different 1888s and both were slowed. When I manually changed the priority with task manager it fired right back up to the usual. GPU-Z confirmed that the GPU was barely being utilized while running SMP2 before the priority change.
Does anyone know of a program that will automatically change process priorities for Windows 7 64-bit? I tried prfinity 2, but that didn't work for me.

I've got Process Lasso running (the one Buck mentions just down from your post) and the GPU clients are reported as 'High' priority in both Process Lasso and Task Manager. I shut down all the clients and restart the GPUs only and it still gives me heavily throttled production. My GTX 260 was earning 400 PPD on an 1888 while my 9600 GSOs were earning about 200 PPD. Every Core 14 they've gotten (that I've seen) has resulted in this issue. Core 11 runs 100%, so I know the priorities are set correctly (they're set the same on Core 11 as they are on Core 14).

El Fiendo and PowderedSugar,
I've seen the same thing where I was getting 1500 PPD on a 353 with a GTS 250. I had to shutdown the machine and wait a few minutes, restarted and all was well.
I used to have those problems on my ATI card (second machine in my sig) until I modified the bios to apply maximum allowable volts at the points I wanted it to. (All in the name of stability, not craziness.) I don't run SMP on the machine, but I do crunch with the CPU. Now I can actually crunch, fold, AND play a game on that machine. (It's also liquid cooled, which helps a ton!)
I'm not as familiar with Nvidia bios editing, nor have I found a tutorial written as clearly as the one for TPU's RBE for ATI cards. But I'll root around the "internets" and see what I can find.

Closing and restarting the WU doesn't seem to solve it in my case, and on top of that the Core 11s are running fine. I don't think its an issue of needing the BIOS modded as its not been an issue before SMP2, and half of the time (Core 11s) its working fine. I'm completely unfamiliar with BIOS modding, so as such I'm nervous to try it. I'll keep it as an idea, but I hope I see a software / tips and tricks type solution first. I'll be scrounging foldingforum.org to see if I can spot anyone else with similar issues.


Having said all that, I'd like opinions on something.

Corsair 800 D or Lian Li P80?

 

[NastyHabits]

I've got Process Lasso running (the one Buck mentions just down from your post) and the GPU clients are reported as 'High' priority in both Process Lasso and Task Manager. I shut down all the clients and restart the GPUs only and it still gives me heavily throttled production. My GTX 260 was earning 400 PPD on an 1888 while my 9600 GSOs were earning about 200 PPD. Every Core 14 they've gotten (that I've seen) has resulted in this issue. Core 11 runs 100%, so I know the priorities are set correctly (they're set the same on Core 11 as they are on Core 14).




Closing and restarting the WU doesn't seem to solve it in my case, and on top of that the Core 11s are running fine. I don't think its an issue of needing the BIOS modded as its not been an issue before SMP2, and half of the time (Core 11s) its working fine. I'm completely unfamiliar with BIOS modding, so as such I'm nervous to try it. I'll keep it as an idea, but I hope I see a software / tips and tricks type solution first. I'll be scrounging foldingforum.org to see if I can spot anyone else with similar issues.


Having said all that, I'd like opinions on something.

Corsair 800 D or Lian Li P80?

Wow! You do have problems. I will let my back brain work on this for a bit. In the meantime, go for the Corsair case. It is friggin' awesome - has everything you could possibly need in a high-end case (internal mounting for a triple raditor, etc, etc), plus I like the conservative styling.

 

[mstenholm]

Wow! You do have problems. I will let my back brain work on this for a bit. In the meantime, go for the Corsair case. It is friggin' awesome - has everything you could possibly need in a high-end case (internal mounting for a triple raditor, etc, etc), plus I like the conservative styling.

The big question is if El Fiendo is alone with this problem or it can hit all that are running the new 6.29 and does folding on GPU at the same time. Not all are babysitting (some go on long weekends, don't they Nasty?) their rigs all the time and might not notice the drop in PPD.

I'm currently only have a dual so the 6.29 is not for me.

 

[NastyHabits]

The big question is if El Fiendo is alone with this problem or it can hit all that are running the new 6.29 and does folding on GPU at the same time. Not all are babysitting (some go on long weekends, don't they Nasty?) their rigs all the time and might not notice the drop in PPD.

I'm currently only have a dual so the 6.29 is not for me.

Understood. Since I only have dual core CPU's at the moment, I'm only running the GPU clients for folding, while crunching on the CPU's.

I find myself always one step away from the bleeding edge. Partly due to personal policy (it's safer on well trodden ground) and partly due to financial constraints.

 

[mstenholm]

Understood. Since I only have dual core CPU's at the moment, I'm only running the GPU clients for folding, while crunching on the CPU's.

I find myself always one step away from the bleeding edge. Partly due to personal policy (it's safer on well trodden ground) and partly due to financial constraints.

Us old fart have to wait until the people that grew up with x86 make a good and safe path for us

 

[PowderedSugar]

Core 11's also run perfectly fine for me. Before SMP2, I was running SMP in Windows and everything was kosher. At least the loss in ppd from my GPU is being made up by the gain in points from my CPU.

 

[El Fiendo]

I was informed by LCB001 of an update to the issue a few of us are experiencing. As posted by Kasson on foldingforum.org earlier today:

BTW, I just updated the Windows A3 core for auto-download. The new version shares processor time much better with other running processes but is a couple % slower on dedicated machines. We're working to combine the best of each version in the future.

I'm going to change out the cores tonight manually to be certain that I've got the newest, and then we'll see if that does anything to help.

 

[PowderedSugar]

That is good news. Let's hope that that does the trick.

 

[NastyHabits]

I decided to stick my toe in the SMP waters. I followed Buck_Nasty's instructions in the Folding Essentials thread, and installed it on my fastest PC (e8400). It took my GPU PPD, wrung it's little neck, threw it in the mud, and stomped on it. I guess it's only for quads, or those braver and more knowledgeable than I. I bow to my fellow TPU folders.

 

[mstenholm]

You could not resist could you?

 

[p_o_s_pc]

the new WUs for the 8core/8threads are asking me to run them but i built the i7 for crunching... looks like i am going to have to try to get another i7 for folding now

 

[NastyHabits]

the new WUs for the 8core/8threads are asking me to run them but i built the i7 for crunching... looks like i am going to have to try to get another i7 for folding now

Spoken like a true folding/crunching addict.

 

[NastyHabits]

You could not resist could you?

I took the day off. I was poking around trying to get a few more PPD out of the PC in my System settings. (I want my pie back!) That PC was cursed since the day I got it. RMA'd the mobo twice. I think I'm the only guy on the planet who dislikes his ASUS P5Q-Pro. I'm going i7 just as soon as I can scrape together a few doubloons.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I decided to stick my toe in the SMP waters. I followed Buck_Nasty's instructions in the Folding Essentials thread, and installed it on my fastest PC (e8400). It took my GPU PPD, wrung it's little neck, threw it in the mud, and stomped on it. I guess it's only for quads, or those braver and more knowledgeable than I. I bow to my fellow TPU folders.

What are you seeing for PPD? If you ever SMP'd before, how does it compare? I'm getting less than half of what I used to get! I feel like I'd get more points if I ran 2 instances of the single core client!

Is there a problem running the new SMP on dual core processors?????

 

[El Fiendo]

Are you including the bonus into the PPD?

 

[BUCK NASTY]

I'm going i7 just as soon as I can scrape together a few doubloons.

Running the 1156/i7 860 platform is not a problem with the -bigadv. Large amounts of ram may inhibit your overclock due to the IMC being on the cpu die, but you should still be able to get 3.8ghz with name brand ram. I averaged 20K PPD with my first WU. I had crashes and failed overclocks that extended the WU by 3-4 hours, so PPD would be greater in a stable environment. I will move the GPU's to another rig and run the cpu only on the next couple of WU's to see what ppd I can get.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Are you including the bonus into the PPD?

no

 

[NastyHabits]

What are you seeing for PPD? If you ever SMP'd before, how does it compare? I'm getting less than half of what I used to get! I feel like I'd get more points if I ran 2 instances of the single core client!

Is there a problem running the new SMP on dual core processors?????

I don't know. I didn't run it long enough to find out. I lost over 1500 PPD with a GTX 260 running a 353. I'm going to leave SMP for my laptop, and use the CPU's on my folding machines for crunching. That only costs me 150-200 PPD per card.

 

[bogmali]

Well I tried both VMWare versions 1.0 and 1.1 and I cannot get both to connect to the server and it keeps finding errors and deletes all files. It did this for a whole day on two of my i7 rigs (half of days TPF wasted). Switching back to v0.6 which looks stable at this point.

 

[msgclb]

Well I tried both VMWare versions 1.0 and 1.1 and I cannot get both to connect to the server and it keeps finding errors and deletes all files. It did this for a whole day on two of my i7 rigs (half of days TPF wasted). Switching back to v0.6 wg\hich looks stable at this point.

Sorry to hear that. I was going to switch to 1.1 this morning but slept through the end of my last -bigadv WU. Maybe I did the right thing and got a few zzzs to boot.

 

[bogmali]

And all I am after is the auto-save feature so I don't loose my progress if the power goes out or something.