The PS3 Clubhouse

[johnnyfiive]

PS3 Media Server is fantastic, it even plays video ISO files. The only problem I have with it, is fast forwarding or rewinding large files, such as MKV files. Other than that, works great.

 

[DaMulta]

Ok this PS3 media server is kick ass. I couldn't imagin it transcoding a movie from this laptop, and play it at the same time on the PS3. Yet it did it!

 

[Easy Rhino]

Ok this PS3 media server is kick ass. I couldn't imagin it transcoding a movie from this laptop, and play it at the same time on the PS3. Yet it did it!

also check out the new version which is in beta i think it is 1.20.something

it has the ability to pass through the DTS track to your receiver if your receiver can decode it. very awesome for blu-ray rips

 

[Wile E]

no, i use my second rig, its use AMD X2 215, ram 1 GB, Hdd 640GB wd blue, is that enough for transcoding ?

and i use PS3 Media Server to stream 1080P film that i stored to external 1TB WDmybook

If it does not have Subtitles, set ps3 media server up to use TSmuxer first.

Move it to the top of the list, save, and restart. PS3MS will no longer transcode thing the PS3 can read natively.

That cpu is not enough to transcode 1080p on the fly without stuttering, unless you decide to lower quality.

How is that my problem when it plays just fine in divx player, or windows media player on my PC. Just when I stream it I get a cinima protection 1 error on the PS3.

LOL I use my laptop intel M 1.8ghz 1 gb ddr2 machine to stream with. I don't think I want to try to transcode with it.

See above for no trancoding.

And it's because a PS3 doesn't have Windows DRM stuff built in. Could be a simple issue of unrecognized player, or it could be a DRM encumbered file. Either way, the built in styrsming service in Windows is junk.

I prefer TVersity, especailly with transcoding, as I've noticed it is more efficient then PS3 Media Server.

Quality is lower, and doesn't handle styled subs properly.

 

[Easy Rhino]

a crazy example is i am playing a blu-ray rip 1080p with the DTS track set at 1.5 Mbps and the video track at times hits 65 Mbps no stutter on my quad core but really you need a nice dual core at 3.0 ghz to do something like that.

 

[digibucc]

a crazy example is i am playing a blu-ray rip 1080p with the DTS track set at 1.5 Mbps and the video track at times hits 65 Mbps no stutter on my quad core but really you need a nice dual core at 3.0 ghz to do something like that.

do you rip and code the rate your self?

 

[Easy Rhino]

do you rip and code the rate your self?

uh...yea

 

[Easy Rhino]

do the video quality settings work for anyone? if i change them and save the configuration and even restart the program i do not see any sort of quality loss and the bit rate stays the same

edit: figured it out. i had to uncheck tsmuxer and it has to be a video file that i have not already transcoded using mkv2vob (so an mkv)

edit 2: i also noticed that the current bitrate that pms reads differs from the current bitrate the ps3 reads when hitting select (yes even accounting for the fact the ps3 reads mbps and PMS reads kbps.) pms shows at about double the rating????

edit 3: the maximum transcode buffer is 600 megabytes which translates into 4800 megabits. well, looking aththe transcoding buffer status when watching a movie if it is full it shows 312656159 bytes or 312.66 megabits or 39.08 megabytes. clearly something is wrong here because at the right of watching a full quality mpeg2 h264 rip i hit over 200mbps which means that buffer is wiped out in less than 2 seconds.

 

[Wile E]

a crazy example is i am playing a blu-ray rip 1080p with the DTS track set at 1.5 Mbps and the video track at times hits 65 Mbps no stutter on my quad core but really you need a nice dual core at 3.0 ghz to do something like that.

I stream the audio as PCM and my video bitrate sometimes peaks over 300. I had to cap it at 200, as the ps3 doesn't seem to want to accept more than that without stuttering.

And at 200Mbit/s, it would take 24 seconds to clear the buffer.

PS3MS transcodes to Mpeg2 on the fly, as it takes less cpu, but requires a hell of a lot more bandwidth for the same picture quality. But, PS3MS does use excess bandwidth. I notice no difference when I set it to 200Mb/s cap with 1:1:1 lossless settings. Anything less, and you can get slight blocking or blurring in high action, high detail sequences.

 

[Easy Rhino]

I stream the audio as PCM and my video bitrate sometimes peaks over 300. I had to cap it at 200, as the ps3 doesn't seem to want to accept more than that without stuttering.

are you sure it is the ps3 that is limited the data rate and not your rig? i have a quad core cpu at 2.66ghz (q9400) and it hiccups as well. the ps3 has 8 processing cores built to crunch a shit ton of data. it could also be your router. even a gigabit router can hiccup at that rate.

And at 200Mbit/s, it would take 24 seconds to clear the buffer.

PS3MS transcodes to Mpeg2 on the fly, as it takes less cpu, but requires a hell of a lot more bandwidth for the same picture quality. But, PS3MS does use excess bandwidth. I notice no difference when I set it to 200Mb/s cap with 1:1:1 lossless settings. Anything less, and you can get slight blocking or blurring in high action, high detail sequences.

you definitely using a video file that requires transcoding? and yea, there is a noticeable difference even going from 1:1:1 to 2:2:2 in video quality which is a setting i added for myself. of course i still get peak bitrates at 50-70mbps and 15-20 seconds of that and i am all done. PS3MS is a great program considering it is still being developed but with todays extremely high bitrate movies (like the one i am watching) it simply cannot do the job. of course there really is no alternative yet accept building an htpc.

edit: and considering the convenience of not having to transcode it makes sense to use mkv2vob and get that all out of the way so you never have to worry about stuttering.

 

[Wile E]

are you sure it is the ps3 that is limited the data rate and not your rig? i have a quad core cpu at 2.66ghz (q9400) and it hiccups as well. the ps3 has 8 processing cores built to crunch a shit ton of data. it could also be your router. even a gigabit router can hiccup at that rate.



you definitely using a video file that requires transcoding? and yea, there is a noticeable difference even going from 1:1:1 to 2:2:2 in video quality which is a setting i added for myself. of course i still get peak bitrates at 50-70mbps and 15-20 seconds of that and i am all done. PS3MS is a great program considering it is still being developed but with todays extremely high bitrate movies (like the one i am watching) it simply cannot do the job. of course there really is no alternative yet accept building an htpc.

edit: and considering the convenience of not having to transcode it makes sense to use mkv2vob and get that all out of the way so you never have to worry about stuttering.

Yes, all subtitled movies require transcoding. That's why I want a cfw so bad. I want someone to write a plug-in to allow proper mkv support with styled subs.

No, It's the ps3 that's the limiting factor. I've tried even direct connections to multiple computers. It won't move much more than 300Mbps of data. Which, if you consider the average speed of the HDD, that sounds about right.

And just cap you PS3MS at 200Mb/s. You'll never see a stutter again, unless your computer tries to do something in the middle of a movie. lol. It's plenty enough bandwidth for 1:1:1 settings.

 

[Easy Rhino]

Yes, all subtitled movies require transcoding. That's why I want a cfw so bad. I want someone to write a plug-in to allow proper mkv support with styled subs.

No, It's the ps3 that's the limiting factor. I've tried even direct connections to multiple computers. It won't move much more than 300Mbps of data. Which, if you consider the average speed of the HDD, that sounds about right.

And just cap you PS3MS at 200Mb/s. You'll never see a stutter again, unless your computer tries to do something in the middle of a movie. lol. It's plenty enough bandwidth for 1:1:1 settings.

alright i will give that a try right now and see what happens

edit: i always thought that limited bandwidth simply meant that it wont allow the bitrate to go above a certain amount.

 

[Wile E]

alright i will give that a try right now and see what happens

edit: i always thought that limited bandwidth simply meant that it wont allow the bitrate to go above a certain amount.

That's all it does, but I bet if you look at the bitrates when the stutter happens, they are really high. That's the only time I got stutter on mine. I just exceeded what the PS3 could take in.

 

[Easy Rhino]

That's all it does, but I bet if you look at the bitrates when the stutter happens, they are really high. That's the only time I got stutter on mine. I just exceeded what the PS3 could take in.

hrm doesnt work for me. even at 30mbps what happens is it runs out of buffer and starts to stutter. that seems to be my other issue. i have to let the movie fill the buffer if i want it guarenteed to play smoothly at lossless settings. even then it is not guarenteed. remember i am hitting 270mbps in some cases during this movie!

 

[Wile E]

hrm doesnt work for me. even at 30mbps what happens is it runs out of buffer and starts to stutter. that seems to be my other issue. i have to let the movie fill the buffer if i want it guarenteed to play smoothly at lossless settings. remember i am hitting 270mbps in some cases during this movie!

Wait, how can you cap it at 30, but it hits 270?

And you can't be killing the buffer. Even at 300Mb/s, you have 16 secs of buffer at 600MB.

What version of ps3ms are you using? And screencap you settings for me.

 

[Easy Rhino]

Wait, how can you cap it at 30, but it hits 270?

And you can't be killing the buffer. Even at 300Mb/s, you have 16 secs of buffer at 600MB.

What version of ps3ms are you using? And screencap you settings for me.

no no, i am capping at 200, but even after say 60 seconds in at around 30mbps the buffer is gone even when i set the buffer to 600. settings are at 1:1:1 in that pic. i am using the 1.20 beta.

side note: also be advised that if i cap it at 200 and i hit the scene where it hits 270mbps obviously there will be problems there.

 

[Wile E]

no no, i am capping at 200, but even after say 60 seconds in at around 30mbps the buffer is gone even when i set the buffer to 600. settings are at 1:1:1 in that pic. i am using the 1.20 beta.

side note: also be advised that if i cap it at 200 and i hit the scene where it hits 270mbps obviously there will be problems there.

No, there shouldn't be at all. It just changes the way it encodes when you set a cap. It uses more compression in those scenes. Thing is, there is already so much excess bandwidth being used, that it doesn't matter. 200Mb/s is still lossless transcoding. 270Mb/s is never needed.

Your buffer emptying means your cpu isn't keeping up. Hell, 600MB is still enough for 4.8sec of buffer at a full 1Gb of bandwidth.

You have a bottleneck somewhere.

 

[Easy Rhino]

No, there shouldn't be at all. It just changes the way it encodes when you set a cap. It uses more compression in those scenes. Thing is, there is already so much excess bandwidth being used, that it doesn't matter. 200Mb/s is still lossless transcoding. 270Mb/s is never needed.

Your buffer emptying means your cpu isn't keeping up. Hell, 600MB is still enough for 4.8sec of buffer at a full 1Gb of bandwidth.

You have a bottleneck somewhere.

well that helps me narrow it down. now that i think about it it probably is because i have a smb share setup to be my media directory. the smb share is actually a NAS that can stream this kind of video on its own so i figured it would not be an issue. but maybe when connected using ps3ms it is failing. let me try a video on my hdd. btw, this is a ubuntu box q9400 with 4 gigs of ddr2 800.

 

[Easy Rhino]

nope. i am playing the same movie from the native hdd now. i am watching the buffer and it is empty on the spots that is skips on in the first 20 seconds. is the buffer cpu related or memory related?

edit: noticed you said it is cpu related. hmmm.... i cannot imagine this cpu is causing the problem on this linux system...

edit 2: watching the system monitor and the cpu is hardly being taxed. it could simply be that ps3ms has a lot more developing to be done. i wonder if anyone else is trying to stream a 1080p DTS rip lossless without any transcoding issues? we are talking a steady 40 mbps and in cases as high as 270mbps.

 

[wahdangun]

If it does not have Subtitles, set ps3 media server up to use TSmuxer first.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100608/ps3media.png

Move it to the top of the list, save, and restart. PS3MS will no longer transcode thing the PS3 can read natively.

That cpu is not enough to transcode 1080p on the fly without stuttering, unless you decide to lower quality.


See above for no trancoding.

And it's because a PS3 doesn't have Windows DRM stuff built in. Could be a simple issue of unrecognized player, or it could be a DRM encumbered file. Either way, the built in styrsming service in Windows is junk.



Quality is lower, and doesn't handle styled subs properly.

so, what video format that PS3 support natively?

and i have tried to lower the quality but it wont make different and it still shuttering like hell.

btw i read in PS3MS forum, and they said its possible to use core avi, and it will make use of cuda for transcoding do anyone here succesfull to use cuda for transcoding ?

 

[Easy Rhino]

so, what video format that PS3 support natively?

and i have tried to lower the quality but it wont make different and it still shuttering like hell.

btw i read in PS3MS forum, and they said its possible to use core avi, and it will make use of cuda for transcoding do anyone here succesfull to use cuda for transcoding ?

cuda for transcoding!!!!???? i must check this out since i have a 9800gtx+ in this linux box

 

[Easy Rhino]

welp, turns out it is an issue with linux. ps3ms for linux does not have the option for enhanced multicore support which is why it is struggling to transcode it on the fly a 1080p movie at 50 mbps. i have it running on my windows 7 box (which does have a faster cpu ) and it runs great. my guess is that even though the cpu on the 7 box is faster 3.0 ghz /more cache versus 2.6 ghz/less cache, it has to do with the enhanced multi core support. damn!

 

[bruins004]

I am going to throw this a bit off topic.
I did like the PS3 until mine decided to take a crap.
Seems like the laser is not reading any discs (bluRay and DVD).
So I called up Sony and they wanted $180 to fix it since it just got out of warranty of course.
I gotta say that is rediculous and I refuse to buy another one (might as well buy a 360 for that price).

Anyone have any ideas or have replaced the laser?

 

[DaMulta]

I am going to throw this a bit off topic.
I did like the PS3 until mine decided to take a crap.
Seems like the laser is not reading any discs (bluRay and DVD).
So I called up Sony and they wanted $180 to fix it since it just got out of warranty of course.
I gotta say that is rediculous and I refuse to buy another one (might as well buy a 360 for that price).

Anyone have any ideas or have replaced the laser?

I'm on my 2ed PS3, the 2ed one being a slim.


Replacing the lazer is easy tho, and it is about 60USD from what I remember..

 

[bruins004]

I'm on my 2ed PS3, the 2ed one being a slim.


Replacing the lazer is easy tho, and it is about 60USD from what I remember..

What happened to your first one?
Any idea where I can find a guide on how to replace this laser.
I must say I am a bit dissapointed in Sony.
They are def. charging way to much to have this replaced.