Weird Graphics Problem in GTA:IV

X-Terminator · Oct 7, 2010

Just a ??? What is the Temp on Your GPU & CPU with the game runnin
:nutkick:

The reason why I am asking is my video card (XFX GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit GDDR3) fan speed is set @ 40% & doesn't increase even with increased temps. I reset my Fan speed 70% when playin games and I have no problems (except 4 a loud fan noise) with my graphics (my temps don't go over 71c). Now sometimes I forget to change my fan speed & I get graphical errors like that (the highest I seen my GPU Temp without increased fan speed was 82c).
:nutkick:

MikeTyson · Oct 7, 2010

Max GPU load in GTA:IV is 60c

CPU is also about 60-65c

X-Terminator · Oct 7, 2010

Temp is not your problem then!!!
:nutkick:

I did some lookin & on several web sites it says your max temp for you CPU is 60c. Now I think that it is 65c or 70c from what I remember about the core 2 duo's
:nutkick:

one of the things I would try is put your CPU back to 2.4GHz & see if that helps with the graphical errors!!! Hope this works.
:nutkick:

MikeTyson · Oct 7, 2010

I've tried that already, didn't work

But with vSync enabled and 2XAA in nVIDIA control panel, the graphics are fixed...

So it's not a hardware problem, it's just a problem with the game

X-Terminator · Oct 7, 2010

cool sounds like rockstar needs 2 have an update patch. Good Luck!!!
:nutkick:

newtekie1 · Oct 7, 2010

MikeTyson said:
Seems to make it slower

If you are talking about Frame Per Second wise, yes vsync will do that. It forces the FPS to be a multiple of your monitors refresh rate, so if you can't get 60 FPS, then it will drop down to 30 FPS, which will probaby be noticeable if you were getting 50 FPS.

DonInKansas · Oct 8, 2010

GTA IV is a pretty CPU intensive game. Try knocking back your sliders some, or buy a quad. :laugh:

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Oct 8, 2010

MikeTyson said:
Yea, GTA:IV bench
And Bjorn_Of_Iceland, I'm only on 1280x1024 with all textures and shadows high, but anisotropic on 8x and the draw distance and detail distance etc are on about 50%, so it's not exactly maxed out... so I don't see why it would need 100% GPU usage

Means its bottlenecked by the proc. GPU has more headroom for improvement from proc speed (in this case, cores). Chart shows it

MikeTyson · Oct 9, 2010

Well I spoke too soon, even with VSync enabled and AA on in NV control panel, the problem is still there...

Any more suggestions?

Techtu · Oct 9, 2010

Meh.. maybe the game just isn't liking your overall setup of your rig :/

I haven't a clue what it could be, maybe reinstall the game and hope for the best if not done so already.

de.das.dude · Oct 9, 2010

GTA IV IS BAD! delete it!!!!!!

@RaXxaa@ · Oct 9, 2010

MikeTyson said:
There's a lot of tearing in the pavement and walls etc, I guess it's only REALLY noticable during actual gameplay rather than screenshots, but all those light spots aren't supposed to be there...

I personally thought that was rain just looking almost real cuz its on computer and maybe some phyx, it is odd though.

Steevo · Oct 9, 2010

de.das.dude said:
GTA IV IS BAD! delete it!!!!!!

most worthless post evar.

I love GTA, yes it requires alot of power to run well, but even basic machines cna run it with low settings and resolution. It actually has "gameplay" I know alot of you don't know what that is due to the time you spend jerking it to visuals.

Have you tried.

Different drivers
Underclocking the GPU and VMEM
Turning off all Nvidia control panel settings
Changing resolutions

Kreij · Oct 9, 2010

X-Terminator, please do not create multiple posts in a row.
Edit your last post if you have more to say.
Thanks.

On-Topic : Given what you have already tried, I would take a stab at Steevo's ideas.
Especially trying the underclocking. Your GPU may be flakey even at stock clocks.

MikeTyson · Oct 10, 2010

Hmmm thanks guys, but it seems to have randomly fixed itself again...

Urgh, this game is so not worth my time! But I do really like playing it

I guess when it happens again I'll look a lot deeper into it

And somehow while playing GTA:IV for about 10-15 minutes my GPU only went to 46c max, ha...

newtekie1 · Oct 10, 2010

Steevo said:
most worthless post evar.

I love GTA, yes it requires alot of power to run well, but even basic machines cna run it with low settings and resolution. It actually has "gameplay" I know alot of you don't know what that is due to the time you spend jerking it to visuals.

Have you tried.

Different drivers
Underclocking the GPU and VMEM
Turning off all Nvidia control panel settings
Changing resolutions

I would definitely try this. I would also try installing the latest beta 260 drivers and checking the clean install option to reset all the nVidia control panel options. Of course we could also just be chasing a bug in the game itself...

As for GTA:IV, it is a very fun game. I agree it takes a lot of horsepower to run it with high settings. However, when it first came out, I was able to play it comfortably on an Athlon X2 4400+(939) and HD4670 and it still looked better than it did on the consoles. And that was version 1.0, before the patches that fixed a lot of the performance problems. GTA:IV just got a bad rap because the max settings were actually the max setting the engine could handle, and not some watered down artifical max settings that most games use just so they can make people with high end hardware happy they can max the game out at 150FPS...

DRDNA · Oct 10, 2010

I agree. this is a game that will challenge hardware for some time to come!

brandonwh64 · Oct 10, 2010

I didnt read the whole thread but i had simular problems on my I7 920 and 5850 but what fixed it was the latest GTA patch (i think its 1.07)

phanbuey · Oct 10, 2010

I love the GTA IV series, especially lost and damned... tho the GFX options need playing with to get the best look/performance.

IMO worst thing about the game is Games for Windows Live.

As far as gfx/performance - game is not entirely GFX bound, it is very VERY sensitive to system memory latencies and CPU power in my experience, and it does not love most socket 775 systems :/ sorry to say.

Your glitch just looks like the game messing up reflection...

MikeTyson · Oct 10, 2010

newtekie1 said:
I would definitely try this. I would also try installing the latest beta 260 drivers and checking the clean install option to reset all the nVidia control panel options. Of course we could also just be chasing a bug in the game itself...

As for GTA:IV, it is a very fun game. I agree it takes a lot of horsepower to run it with high settings. However, when it first came out, I was able to play it comfortably on an Athlon X2 4400+(939) and HD4670 and it still looked better than it did on the consoles. And that was version 1.0, before the patches that fixed a lot of the performance problems. GTA:IV just got a bad rap because the max settings were actually the max setting the engine could handle, and not some watered down artifical max settings that most games use just so they can make people with high end hardware happy they can max the game out at 150FPS...

Yea I already tried those drivers a while back to try and fix it but it made no difference

MikeTyson · Oct 10, 2010

brandonwh64 said:
I didnt read the whole thread but i had simular problems on my I7 920 and 5850 but what fixed it was the latest GTA patch (i think its 1.07)

I get an error when I try to install 1.07, but the glitch first occurred the first time I installed 1.07 so obviously that won't fix it

MikeTyson · Oct 10, 2010

phanbuey said:
I love the GTA IV series, especially lost and damned... tho the GFX options need playing with to get the best look/performance.

IMO worst thing about the game is Games for Windows Live.

As far as gfx/performance - game is not entirely GFX bound, it is very VERY sensitive to system memory latencies and CPU power in my experience, and it does not love most socket 775 systems :/ sorry to say.

Your glitch just looks like the game messing up reflection...

Yea my memory is pretty cheap...

Not very good

I can live without playing this game, it's just that it'd be nice to play it cos GTA is so fun when you're just bored and need to mess around. No other games really offer that kind of dynamic fun

Maybe it's just that I'm on XP now I guess, seems like things are moving on from XP these days :/

Techtu · Oct 10, 2010

MikeTyson...

Kreij said:
...please do not create multiple posts in a row.
Edit your last post if you have more to say.
Thanks.

EDIT: +1 GTA is a seriously fun game to play on when you just want to waste time and shoot the c*nt's in the house next door

MikeTyson · Oct 11, 2010

Tech2 said:
MikeTyson...

EDIT: +1 GTA is a seriously fun game to play on when you just want to waste time and shoot the c*nt's in the house next door

Mmm yea, you'd be surprised how often I feel like doin that

Techtu · Oct 11, 2010

MikeTyson said:
Mmm yea, you'd be surprised how often I feel like doin that

Haha... I knew someone would pull in on what I said

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