Looking at new GPU for gaming ????

[EarthDog]

Yes, what a mess indeed.

384 was a typo big guy.

And I mentioned the SP's and CUDA cores as part of its differenec as well.

FAK.

 

[Benetanegia]

Yes, what a mess indeed.

384 was a typo big guy.

And I mentioned the SP's and CUDA cores as part of its differenec as well.

FAK.

Read above. "If card A..." etc. The fact is that he had a valid point and you complicated things for no reason.

 

[EarthDog]

Ok man...Sorry. I thought it was relevent and certainly not worth the tongue lashing from anyone over. My god.

 

[DOM]

okay wut happend lol

cuz i was just going off wiz review's

the 6950 and 560ti oc section the 560ti wins but i would like to see reviews on all test with the oc but then i know that takes alot of time for him to just do them as it is

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

compare an overclocked 560 ti to an overclocked AMD not perfect but compare like a Lightning model to a power edition or something blah blah blah and just cross compare.

 

[BrettRuthnam]

save up some more and hit a 580 or equivalent AMD solution, even if it's CrossFire

 

[gifted1]

okay wut happend lol

cuz i was just going off wiz review's

the 6950 and 560ti oc section the 560ti wins but i would like to see reviews on all test with the oc but then i know that takes alot of time for him to just do them as it is

depands on wich 6950 you`d benched against that 560ti..

 

[DOM]

depands on wich 6950 you`d benched against that 560ti..

looking at one's priced around the same not going to speen 100 more for 5 fps


was looking at the GTX 570 there faster then 6970's right ?

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

560 ti 6950 570 6970

depends on the games but in general a 6970 is a bit faster then a 570

 

[yogurt_21]

560 ti 6950 570 6970

depends on the games but in general a 6970 is a bit faster then a 570

also resolution is a factor, overall the 570 has a 1% lead in 1680x1050 and lower and the 6970 has a 1% lead in 1920x1080- 1920x1200 any higher and the 6970 jumps to a 6% lead.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_580_Lightning_Extreme_Edition/27.html

but at that difference it's down to preference imo.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

not just preference but specs...

570 is 1280mb ram 6970 is 2048mb,

Metro 2033
Shogun II
have already proved a 570 dosent have enough Vram for those titles. its a trend thats going to continue. so id expect the performance difference to become more and more apparent as games are released in the next 6 months...

to bad there isnt a 2560mb GTX 570 that would be kick ass since they overclock so nicely.

 

[Shou Miko]

it's also depends on the driver and the game, when u say GTX 570 vs. HD 6970 bcs some games Nvidia win in fps and others ATi/AMD wins.

 

[BrettRuthnam]

Check this:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...5870-all-overclocked-review-introduction.html

Oh and always look at minimum frames and average frames, cause that determines if games run "smooth".

 

[Funtoss]

Gtx 570!! Get that :d

 

[DOM]

Check this:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...5870-all-overclocked-review-introduction.html

Oh and always look at minimum frames and average frames, cause that determines if games run "smooth".

only thing i got from that the 5870 makes the 69XX look like poop

but i guess the 2gb 6950 that can flash to 6970 looks the best..... do they still sell this on newegg??

 

[BrettRuthnam]

only thing i got from that the 5870 makes the 69XX look like poop

Hehehehe that's true

but i guess the 2gb 6950 that can flash to 6970 looks the best..... do they still sell this on newegg??

No idea, i'm in SA, I don't ever look at newegg.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/307449-33-6970-noise

But from what i've seen in reviews as well, is that the 570 is a lot quieter.

For those of you that don't quite know how Decibels work here's a quick lesson:

If you take the decibel "rating" of a sound and it gives you 50dB's,
Then you take another reading of a different sound and it gives you 53dB's

IT USUALLY MEANS THE SECOND SOUND IS AROUND 10 TIMES LOUDER
hence an increase of 3dB's from a reference point (lets say 50dB's) will result in --->10 times louder.
but an increase in 6dB's from 50dB's (making it 56dB's) means that sound is 10x10= 100 times louder.

So all i'm saying is don't get a card that has a few frames more than a card that is 10 times quieter (your ears will bleed, hehehehee x 1.25 million).

also having many "loud" components running in a pc WILL compound the overall noise coming from the pc.

Hope you'll understand, if not i'll elaborate more, if needed.



Peace

 

[DOM]

yeah thats what i was looking at the 6950's that can flash are the ones with the loud leaf blower fan XD


well im off to bed need to watch the kids in the moring

 

[BrettRuthnam]

well im off to bed need to watch the kids in the moring

cheers, sleep like the dead

 

[Shou Miko]

yeah thats what i was looking at the 6950's that can flash are the ones with the loud leaf blower fan XD


well im off to bed need to watch the kids in the moring

DOM there is a big chance that they can unlock but there are still some with error and others simply refuse but the chance should be bigger to get unlocked if u can't unlucky like my cousin with his Club-3D Radeon HD 6950 1GB it refuses

 

[RejZoR]

yeah thats what i was looking at the 6950's that can flash are the ones with the loud leaf blower fan XD


well im off to bed need to watch the kids in the moring

Actually these centrifugal fans push incredible amouns of air and they are still relatively silent.
At least my HD5850 was until it started rattling as all of them do on Radeon cards...
So i went for the Vapor-X cooler on HD6870. Which sounded like jet engine taking off...
Now i have a HD6950 with TwinFrozr III cooler and it's like i'm using a completelly different computer. There is some noise from it but it has a different pitch and is nowhere near as loud as the overhyped Vapor-X cooler. Plus it cools far far better.

I love the centrifugal full exhaust coolers but after seeing how poor quality all of these fans are, i'll be avoiding them... Honestly, i don't know anyone with HD5000/HD6000 that fan hasn't started rattling.

 

[STCNE]

I happen to have the MSI power edition 570 for sale, OCed to 900mhz it beats the stock 580 in some games. The only reason I'm downgrading to the 560 ti, the 570 is overkill for my res and I need the money.
Its a great card, 900mhz, 45% fan, and 75C for Metro, I had the game fully maxed and it hung between 25 and 60 fps the whole time I played.

 

[Frizz]

Get a 2GB 560ti or 6950, both are good choose via your personal preference.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

if you want cool and quiet get a MSI Twin Frozr III supposedly some of those unlock its rare but a possibility id research it more to be honest.

6900 series for me doesnt rattle at all cards are great fans are pretty damn good.

That said in Xfire the cards get a bit loud Single card no problems at all

 

[yogurt_21]

not just preference but specs...

570 is 1280mb ram 6970 is 2048mb,

Metro 2033
Shogun II
have already proved a 570 dosent have enough Vram for those titles. its a trend thats going to continue. so id expect the performance difference to become more and more apparent as games are released in the next 6 months...

to bad there isnt a 2560mb GTX 570 that would be kick ass since they overclock so nicely.

the review I linked, W1z's review, doesn't support that conclusion. If the 570 really ran out of memory it would have dropped down to an incredibly low frame rate while the 6970 still had playable frames.

While the 6970 does do better at the top res in shogun 2, it seems more gpu related than memory related. And for metro both cards run outta HP at the highest res, not memory.

so memory isn't a factor unless he's planning on using eyefinity, where the tri monitor resolution will likely use more than the 1.2GB the 570 has. But again at that point you'd need more gpu HP to push that res, so you'd need 6970 crossfire, which isn't in the budget for the OP.

 

[reverze]

You could sly two of these up and have a real nice set... hard to beat for the price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131373