Seagate woes

[sy5tem]

Has anybody else had issues with Seagate that last 4-5 months?

I've had in total 4 1.5Tb 7200.11's, 2x 7200.11 500gbs, and 1 7200.12 die on me. No power surges or heavy usage, they run all day that is all. I currently have 4 x 2tb and 2 x 1.5tb along with a 40gb seagate in my server and i'm getting scared. While I typed this, it 'clicked' and froze the computer again.

Seagate RMA has always been great, but with the amount of drives i've sent in, it's getting very annoying (and expensive). My dad's 500gb died, I could tell becuase of the random lock up which is what my htpc is doing now. He bought a Samsung F3 because even he was getting annoyed at the drive dying constantly. Once I get this 1.5tb from RMA, I think my 5 year love for Seagate is going gone.

WD - X
Seagate - X
That leaves me with Samsung

I'm running out of drive manufactures to hate.

Edit: Locked up 5 times while I wrote this.

SEAGATE hard drive are failing thats why they remove the 5 years warranty back to 3 years

i just lost one of my 1TB 7200.12 drive which all it does now is CLICK CLICK CLICK! (it mean f*** y*** in hard drive language)

this is my second seagate failure in 2 years. goodbye seagate .. they bought maxtor... it looks like they became maxtor ... cheap and unreliable hd

 

[yogurt_21]

It's just my 1.5's i've had issues out of and a few 500's. My 750 is like 18 months old with 0 issues. My 2's are kicking along great but as I said the 1.5/500s have given me issues.

hmm i was going to go with erocker and say mobo, but then i saw the raid controllers and that pretty much negates that thought.

odd that it's only the 1.5's and 500's. Could be you're just suffering from bad luck, after all with the amount of hard disk space you're using you're bound to run into more failures than someone who buys 1 or 2 drives.

I've had a 500gb 7200.10 running for years now without issue. Several 320's as well.

just a thought do the raid controllers give any warnings when the click of death happens? I'm used to the bigger brother rocket raids where they chirp like crazy when a drive has an issue.

 

[newtekie1]

Yup, I remember that. I had made sure these were the latest. I'm just a bit tired of dying drives. I have nearly 18tb of hard disk space in my house and it's all with Seagate.

If you are only experiencing a single manufacturer, then you will have problems with only that manufacturer. And with that much storage space, and that many drives, you will have a higher number of failures than the average person.

Personally, I've got a mix of Seagate and WD currently, I've had drives from both fail.

That said, I don't think the 7200.11 drivers were seagates best specimen. Besides the firmware issues, I just don't think they were built all that well. But every manufacturer has their bad batch of drives from time to time. Western Digital Green drives were freaking out RAID controllers and causing the controller to falsely mark the drives as failed, a firmware upgrade help the issue, but it is still present. And now all the WD drives except for the RAID Edition drives lack TLER, which causes similar symptoms to the green edition drive.:shadedshu

 

[freaksavior]

If you are only experiencing a single manufacturer, then you will have problems with only that manufacturer. And with that much storage space, and that many drives, you will have a higher number of failures than the average person.

Personally, I've got a mix of Seagate and WD currently, I've had drives from both fail.

That said, I don't think the 7200.11 drivers were seagates best specimen. Besides the firmware issues, I just don't think they were built all that well. But every manufacturer has their bad batch of drives from time to time. Western Digital Green drives were freaking out RAID controllers and causing the controller to falsely mark the drives as failed, a firmware upgrade help the issue, but it is still present. And now all the WD drives except for the RAID Edition drives lack TLER, which causes similar symptoms to the green edition drive.:shadedshu

I used to have wd, seagate, and hitcahia, had their early blue drivers, some 7200.10s and a deathstar drive (heh death star as they were called) and never had issues. Once I got the 1.5's is when I started running into issues.

I'm not negating the fact i've only been using one drive manufacture for a long time, it's true and i have been, but with my recent luck, i'm a bit annoyed.

Also as you said I have more hard drives than most people, and most people on this forum (from what I can see) so again, i'm not complaining just asking if anybody else has had a string of bad luck.

hmm i was going to go with erocker and say mobo, but then i saw the raid controllers and that pretty much negates that thought.

odd that it's only the 1.5's and 500's. Could be you're just suffering from bad luck, after all with the amount of hard disk space you're using you're bound to run into more failures than someone who buys 1 or 2 drives.

I've had a 500gb 7200.10 running for years now without issue. Several 320's as well.

just a thought do the raid controllers give any warnings when the click of death happens? I'm used to the bigger brother rocket raids where they chirp like crazy when a drive has an issue.

My raid cards do have a beeper on them, they just long beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep untill I reboot. Once I reboot they are back, happens about once a month and scares me every time but now that I have a better understanding of why - drives timeout to read from raid card because of the stupid raid firmware on raid 'certified' drives.

 

[freaksavior]

I have 6 1.5TB seagates, they run fine. Though older firmwares are known to brick the drives. I'm running CC1H which is fine.

cc1h on all 4

got my 7200.11 in so i'm about to format that and reinstall windows.

edit: format complete, nearly everything installed back and it's working GREAT!!!!!!!!!

 

[freaksavior]

Another died yesterday. I looked through my emails and this is the total.

3 x 1.5tbs
3 x 500gb 7200.11
1 x 500gb 7200.12

Emailed Seagate a nice letter (being polite) and explained I have had 7 drives fail in the last 8 months. That is almost a drive a month (I can do math ) so they agreed to pay for shipping for the two 1.5tb's im sending in now.

Seagate has always had good, no great customer service, one of the reasons why I continue to love their products and support.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Jeezes, I would start looking at another culprit other than the drives themselves. You ever had any other hardware fail on you just randomly?

 

[newtekie1]

I used to have wd, seagate, and hitcahia, had their early blue drivers, some 7200.10s and a deathstar drive (heh death star as they were called) and never had issues. Once I got the 1.5's is when I started running into issues.

I'm not negating the fact i've only been using one drive manufacture for a long time, it's true and i have been, but with my recent luck, i'm a bit annoyed.

Also as you said I have more hard drives than most people, and most people on this forum (from what I can see) so again, i'm not complaining just asking if anybody else has had a string of bad luck.

Oh I know, I'm just saying. It isn't Seagate, it is just the way of life. If you move to WD, you'll have the same luck with them, if you move ti Hitachi you'll have the same luck with them.

Personally, I've moved all my data storage to 5400/5900RPM drives, they seem to last longer and the speed reduction isn't noticeable on a data volume.

 

[Batou1986]

Ive done more drive replacements then i can count, WD and Segate are the best 2 mfg's out there.
Id say its about 40/70 split WD/Segate on failures, Seagate firmware issues killing drives the last few years is inexcusable, especially for there OEM drives that come from dell/hp etc .

No one should buy a HDD or a OEM pc and have it die 3 months later because Seagate was to lazy/cheap to actually test there products before releasing them.

 

[v12dock]

I have always had bad luck with seagate, now I always buy WD or samsung

 

[freaksavior]

Jeezes, I would start looking at another culprit other than the drives themselves. You ever had any other hardware fail on you just randomly?

Nope, I have had no other hardware failures.

Oh I know, I'm just saying. It isn't Seagate, it is just the way of life. If you move to WD, you'll have the same luck with them, if you move ti Hitachi you'll have the same luck with them.

Personally, I've moved all my data storage to 5400/5900RPM drives, they seem to last longer and the speed reduction isn't noticeable on a data volume.

I agree, it's not just Seagate, I know drives can die.

Ive done more drive replacements then i can count, WD and Segate are the best 2 mfg's out there.
Id say its about 40/70 split WD/Segate on failures, Seagate firmware issues killing drives the last few years is inexcusable, especially for there OEM drives that come from dell/hp etc .

So far, my 750's been king. No issues and had it for almost 2 years now(I think... would have to double check on newegg when I bought it)


I haven't had ANY problems out of the 2tb's I have. They are in raid 0 (shouldn't have done that) and they are 5900rpm

 

[Batou1986]

That's the issue i have and why i tend to avoid Segate is there products are hit and miss.
I usually order drives in bulk, i'll order 5 drives one time and they will be fine next time i order 5 more of the same and 3 of them will be DOA.

Ive done this numerous times and i seem to get burnt on the Segates maybe 1 in 30 WD drives i get have issues.
This carry's through the entire product line from 2.5 to 3.5 IDE/Sata tho the IDE drives seem to last longer and the 2.5' WD's die easily.

 

[freaksavior]

I want to make this clear as I do not want it to look like I am complaining or bashing any company.

I have used various hard drive manufactures. Wd, Seagate, samsung, Hitachi, Maxtor (when they were around)

I have had great success with ALL of the companies above. But I have stuck with Seagate over the years for their tremendous support.

4 x 1.5tb's 7200.11
4 x 2tb 5900RMP
1 x 320Gb 7200.3
1 x 320Gb 7200.4
1 x 320 External Free Agent
1 x 40gb (ST340014AS)
1 x 750gb 7200.11

This is the list of seagate drives I have. Total hard drives 19; 13 are Seagate. 2 are Hitachi (One external laptop drive and one old 320 Desktop), one is Samsung (1tb f3, replaced a dead 500gb 7200.11), one is WD (laptop drive, not sure which) and one is from m$ in my 360 which I have no idea which model.

So I have more than the average person, I expect more problems and I accept that.

I simply and posting what has happened and what has happened to others no bashing, no this company sucks, non of that.

 

[freaksavior]

Update:

My 500gb died tonight in my main rig, I think this is the 3rd time to RMA this drive.

*sigh* I guess i'm going to buy a ssd now.

 

[Super Sarge]

I have 4 internal Seagate Drives 2 750 drives that are at least 3 years possibly 4 years old. I also have 2 1.5 TB drives that are 3 years old, I have 2 External drives a 160 and 500 gig that are over 3 years or older all Seagate and all running great

 

[yogurt_21]

Update:

My 500gb died tonight in my main rig, I think this is the 3rd time to RMA this drive.

*sigh* I guess i'm going to buy a ssd now.

dude that's like saying "dang my 19" crt tv broke, guess I'm gonna have to spend the money on a 52" 1080P LED back lit LCD TV, bummer"

 

[freaksavior]

dude that's like saying "dang my 19" crt tv broke, guess I'm gonna have to spend the money on a 52" 1080P LED back lit LCD TV, bummer"

Yeah basically.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Yeah basically.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/f8f49930.jpg

Mmmmm

Sexy! How many bones did you have to unbury for it?

 

[freaksavior]

Mmmmm

Sexy! How many bones did you have to unbury for it?

It's $189.99 at bby, actually cheaper than anywhere else :0

Suppose to be hella fast from the reviews i've read but i'm not that impressed actually. Idk if I need to do something special.
Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CW080G3B5 2.5" 80GB SATA II...
I got them to price match frys for 174.99 though so my total was $181


I'm going to plug in my dead (I Think dead) seagate and hope I can pull data off it but I'm done with seagate for now.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Im probly going to be waiting til after my next upgrade for an SSD. Will be looking at some SF 2k drives. Maybe you have to set trim? Iunno, never messed with one or read up too too much. Prbly is going to end being an OCZ Solid 3 drive.

 

[GSquadron]

Has anybody else had issues with Seagate that last 4-5 months?

I've had in total 4 1.5Tb 7200.11's, 2x 7200.11 500gbs, and 1 7200.12 die on me. No power surges or heavy usage, they run all day that is all. I currently have 4 x 2tb and 2 x 1.5tb along with a 40gb seagate in my server and i'm getting scared. While I typed this, it 'clicked' and froze the computer again.

Seagate RMA has always been great, but with the amount of drives i've sent in, it's getting very annoying (and expensive). My dad's 500gb died, I could tell becuase of the random lock up which is what my htpc is doing now. He bought a Samsung F3 because even he was getting annoyed at the drive dying constantly. Once I get this 1.5tb from RMA, I think my 5 year love for Seagate is going gone.

WD - X
Seagate - X
That leaves me with Samsung

I'm running out of drive manufactures to hate.

Edit: Locked up 5 times while I wrote this.

That happened to me too. I had to change the seagate 1TB with hitachi 1TB

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I'm going to plug in my dead (I Think dead) seagate and hope I can pull data off it but I'm done with seagate for now.

wrap the drive up and stick it in the fridge/freezer for a while before taking it out and trying to recover your data. the method has been used by a lot of people and hopefully it will work long enough for you to recover all your data.

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sorry for your loss anyway. I when i built my first pc, I had a brand new 80Gb barracuda 7200 die on me within 2 weeks. Click of death+ freezing + BSODs. I switched to maxtor. after i returned the drive. and i never had to replace a drive for 3-5years until a built a new system. and by that time Maxtor had already been bought out by seagate so I jumped into the open arms of samsung. and have used them exclusively ever since and never had a problem...

I felt like i had been battered with a lead pipe and left for dead when they made the announcement that they were selling off their hard drive department. and its even worse that the people that bought them were SEAGATE. so my back in against the wall when the time comes for me to buy a new hard drive. Samsung spinpoint's were the dogs bollocks when it came to performance, reliability and value for money. the same cant be said about the remaining manufacturers.

WD is my next choice, but they have their own fair share of problems

 

[Super Sarge]

I have 7 Seagates 4 internal and 3 External ranging from 160Gig external to two 1.5 TB internals 6 of them are over 3 years old and I never have had a problem

 

[freaksavior]

I have 7 Seagates 4 internal and 3 External ranging from 160Gig external to two 1.5 TB internals 6 of them are over 3 years old and I never have had a problem

I have 19 drives. So I'm not the normal person with a few drives but it's crazy. Well either way, I don't want to scare people off of seagate but i'm not going to be buying them for a while.

 

[Super Sarge]

I am partial to Seagate drives, I was security officer in the Seagate R and D facility in Shakopee Minnesota for 7 years, I got to see how the Hard drives were tested before ever going to market I was quite impressed.