conroe is a diffrent story, i have overclocked more then 15, i work at a shop(same as spoon) and have yet to see a newcastle (754) i couldnt get to 2.5+ gz or venice i couldnt get to 2.7 using PIB cooling even with a so/so board(needs the basics like mem devider and such) and what i could find about the MSI AMETHYST-M 1.0 said it had the basic options needed to overclock the cpu and most ppl could get 260-280 on the fsb without to much trouble.
worst case he could get to 2.5+ if form some reasion he didnt have luck on that board, thats between 3700+ and 3800+ clocks!!!!
alot of people find out they couldnt get a decent athlon oc because they didnt lower the HTT multi a notch then lower the ram devider a notch b4 they tryed, had a guy bring in his system he INSISTED it couldnt be overcloked, 5 min later i had it overclocked from 1.8 to 2.8(opte) using the stock heatpipe cooler temps maxed at 52c, the clock could have gone higher but his board was unable to clock up any higher :/ (board limmited arggg) and the multi was only 9
the board could do 323fsb any higher and it wouldnt post :/
blah my point is that after years of exp overclocking athlon(tbird and up) 32 and 64bit i normaly can give an easy avrage on what the chips gonna get.
no guarntees in life ever but if he couldnt get to 2.5gz i would be SHOCKED SHITTLESS!!!
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