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Radeon HD 4350 gets slow with 880 chipset!

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Hi there everyone. I've got two machines, at Home & office. Both has displays powered by XFX ATi Radeon HD 4350. My home machine specs are : AMD Sempron 145, Biostar A780L3L motherboard (760 Chipset), 4GB x 1 DDR3 ZION, 500 GB HDD and UMAX 550W PSU. And here's my office machine specs : AMD Athlon II 260, Boistar A880GZ (880 Chipset), 2GB x 2 DDR3 Kingmax, 500GB HDD and Frontech 550W PSU. Both motherboard BIOS are updated.

Here's my problem, my office PC with 880 chipset runs games like Borderlands, Saint's Row Third, Battlefield 3 very slow and COD MW3 at playable rate (All at lowest settings) :confused: . While home PC, surprisingly runs Borderlands with medium settings - just so well. Why in the world it runs better with an older chipset :banghead: , can't doubt the graphics card here as I tried switching them with no change in outcome. Please help!
 

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different drivers?

where are you from in india?
 

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Thank you "de.das.dude" for the reply here, I'm from South Gujarat. Both machines are regularly updated with both BIOS & drivers. Right now, it's 11.11c performance drivers installed on both machines.
 

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Easy answer... the Athlon II 260 is a dual Core CPU - things tend to run faster if its a dual core CPU (unless is a AMD BD CPU - then it might run slower)

the Semperon is a single core. semperons are the 'intel celeron' of AMD chips. so they wont have a lot of onboard cache and that will hurt performance. how much Onboard cache makes a lot of difference.

but the main problem here is that your single core semperon runs at 2.8Ghz while your Athlon II 260 is clocked at 3.2Ghz. so the Athlon II 260 will have more advantage when it comes to general use, gaming and multi-threaded applications (which a lot of the games you are playing are)



to put it bluntly. the Athlon II 260 is more of 'full fat' cpu then the semperon.


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Easy answer... the Athlon II 260 is a dual Core CPU - things tend to run faster if its a dual core CPU (unless is a AMD BD CPU - then it might run slower)
the Semperon is a single core. semperons are the 'intel celeron' of AMD chips. so they wont have a lot of onboard cache and that will hurt performance. how much Onboard cache makes a lot of difference.
but the main problem here is that your single core semperon runs at 2.8Ghz while your Athlon II 260 is clocked at 3.2Ghz. so the Athlon II 260 will have more advantage when it comes to general use, gaming and multi-threaded applications (which a lot of the games you are playing are)
to put it bluntly. the Athlon II 260 is more of 'full fat' cpu then the semperon.
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Thanx for the reply "FreedomEclipse". May be there's a MISSED / ALTERED CPU names here. Sure X2 will out perform X1 so easily here, yet, the problem is - it's not the Sempron 145 with 760 chipset running slower, it's doing more than my expectations. It's the superior - Athlon II 260 with 880 chipset which skips the Game frames :banghead: , though HD videos at 1080 runs just fine!
 

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semprons are derived from phenoms. whereas athlons are from...athlons. phenoms are better at performing than athlons. thats why you see better performance in that case. you are lucky to have got a good sempron!.


i am from kolkata/calcutta, also indian :D
 

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i am from kolkata/calcutta, also indian :D
Yeah I got that from your "Location Info", good to know mate :toast: . By the way, that's a nice configuration you've got :cool: .
semprons are derived from phenoms. whereas athlons are from...athlons. phenoms are better at performing than athlons. thats why you see better performance in that case. you are lucky to have got a good sempron!.
Sempronsssss........ are from Pheeeeeenomssss..........., man are you serious? Looks like I got a best deal on renamed X1 Phenoms :cool: ! OK, since we're talking about which race these CPUs are coming from, I enabled ACC from BIOS & my Sempron 145 turned it self in to Athlon 4450e......, and not Phenom...!!
Anyway, thank you so much for info brother, yet I'm still not getting the solution here :ohwell: .
 

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So, anybody has ANY idea about this!
 

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Nope not even BIOS settings giving me any increase in FPS in Saint Row. Any idea, people.
 

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yes semprons are from phenoms that dont work upto the phenom reputation :toast:


it turned into an athlon because the L3 cache is locked/not working.

if you can give me the picture of the top of the one you have, i can show you why its a phenom.
 
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Here's my problem, my office PC with 880 chipset runs games like Borderlands, Saint's Row Third, Battlefield 3 very slow and COD MW3 at playable rate (All at lowest settings) :confused: . While home PC, surprisingly runs Borderlands with medium settings - just so well. Why in the world it runs better with an older chipset :banghead: , can't doubt the graphics card here as I tried switching them with no change in outcome. Please help!

The others have already explained the Athlon/Sempron difference so I won't go into that. But I'd like to add that the ATI 4350 let alone an onboard video cards is not equipped for gaming. They are not gaming tier cards and you will always struggle to play modern games with it. You are talking about a multimedia card at best.
 

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yes semprons are from phenoms that dont work upto the phenom reputation :toast:
it turned into an athlon because the L3 cache is locked/not working.
if you can give me the picture of the top of the one you have, i can show you why its a phenom.

:toast:Kemo Naa Chhe, Dada! Bhaalo!! Thanx for coming back, sorry I didn't get the line here as - "the picture of the top of the one you have" ? Ummm....can you be more specific for Top of the WHAT I have!!!!

The others have already explained the Athlon/Sempron difference so I won't go into that. But I'd like to add that the ATI 4350 let alone an onboard video cards is not equipped for gaming. They are not gaming tier cards and you will always struggle to play modern games with it. You are talking about a multimedia card at best.

Thank you "Dent1" for the reply here. Yeahh..., I got such idea some time later though. Yet, what bothers me here is, this card gives much better performance with Sempron 145 + 760 Chipset & struggles with Athlon II X2 260 + 880G chipset. I'll upgrade the graphic card soon, but still this will remain a query to be solved :confused: .
 

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Thank you "Dent1" for the reply here. Yeahh..., I got such idea some time later though. Yet, what bothers me here is, this card gives much better performance with Sempron 145 + 760 Chipset & struggles with Athlon II X2 260 + 880G chipset. I'll upgrade the graphic card soon, but still this will remain a query to be solved :confused

Don't try to solve it - upgrade the GPU and move on.
 
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