Congress Debates SOPA, Hypocritically Downloads Illegally Itself

[TheMailMan78]

I have chilled out after his last post. I see that we have a lot in common

We have a lot in common. I just know how this story end. Its always ends the same way.

See its the cycle of man.

1. Man builds a immature society.
2. Man becomes prosperous as society matures.
3. Society matures fully and becomes corrupt.
4. Man tears down society and builds a new one.

See the founders of America knew of step 3. They lived it. This is why they didn't want a centralized power. A super government with super power. They knew absolute power corrupts. But their mistake was they thought they could change mans natural order. That's was like trying to make water not wet.

How many times have we done this? How many more? This story is as old as man himself. There is no conspiracies. Just a bunch of squirrels trying to catch a nut.

 

[trickson]

We have a lot in common. I just know how this story end. Its always ends the same way.

See its the cycle of man.

1. Man builds a immature society.
2. Man becomes prosperous as society matures.
3. Society matures fully and becomes corrupt.
4. Man tears down society and builds a new one.

See the founders of America knew of step 3. They lived it. This is why they didn't want a centralized power. A super government with super power. They knew absolute power corrupts. But their mistake was they thought they could change mans natural order. That's was like trying to make water not wet.

How many times have we done this? How many more? This story is as old as man himself. There is no conspiracies. Just a bunch of squirrels trying to catch a nut.

LOL ! You know how right your are ! Can't wait till Dec. 21st ... We are all going to DIE !

 

[TheMailMan78]

LOL ! You know how right your are ! Can't wait till Dec. 21st ... We are all going to DIE !

This is why I don't chase shadows. I don't see people out to get me. I don't believe in vast conspiracies. People are far to incompetent for that.

 

[qubit]

This is why I don't chase shadows. I don't see people out to get me. I don't believe in vast conspiracies. People are far to incompetent for that.

Yes, that's embarrassingly true, isn't it, lol.

 

[Mr McC]

See this is what you don't understand. Nobody thinks this is about stopping piracy. You are right. This is about control. What you don't get is why people like Wrigleyvillain and I are pissed. See the governments of the world. Not just the U.S. are about control even if you don't wanna hear that. The U.S. is just an easy scape goat. Anyway ALL governments want power. That's their very nature. Power. They have been looking for a reason for YEARS to clamp down on the web. But how? You just cant censor like China right? SO they need a good reason. Pirates gave it to them on a silver platter. So yeah thanks pirate. We all have to suffer because of you.

As for this being front page news well......I was on these stories well before they were posted here. I didn't report them. Why? Because of this crap. We argue about things well out of our control and it ends up being a debate about things most people don't have a full grasp on. Threads like this create animosity between members and instead of taking about RAM timings and silicon doping we argue things like politics and religion. Things NONE of us can agree on, EVER. This is why I don't report SOPA, piracy or any other political news. This isnt news. Its flame bait the way its reported.

I have never felt animosity towards you, Wrigley (quite the opposite actually) or any other member, nor would I feel animosity simply because we disagree on certain issues. In any event, we agree about the larger picture.

Where we disagree is where you place the blame on pirates. I don't expect to do jail time because other people are stealing, nor do I expect to have my rights restricted as a means of curbing piracy. If it wasn't piracy, there would simply be another excuse.

A Marxist might argue that nothing is apolitical, even RAM timings and silicon doping, and often what we choose to ignore tells us more about ourselves than the opinions we voice.

Nevertheless, I fully understand your wish for an entirely tech focused site; however, I feel that it is impossible to separate tech and politics in today's world, particularly in light of recent developments.

In Spain, the recently ousted government attempted to pass a similar law (ley Sinde), which fell flat on its face, but it is only a matter of time before the new executive attempts to pass comparable legislation and in this sense, Spain and the rest of the world are awaiting the outcome of the SOPA debate.

By the way, happy new year.

 

[aradi]

If I may,,

Just for informative reasons

you could just watch " The Arrivals " Series ... Just Google it

 

[Mr McC]

If I may,,

Just for informative reasons

you could just watch " The Arrivals " Series ... Just Google it

My dear sir, if I may, merely for informative purposes, I can forego that pleasure.

 

[silkstone]

Conspiracies do exist. People conspire against one another in many different fashions, i'm sure lots of you have conspired against various people in different stages of your life.
The more power someone has, inherently, the bigger the conspiracy. Probably not along the lines of lizard people. But there are conspiracies everywhere, from the mundanely small to the massive. Albeit the latter is less prolific but to deny they exist is to live under a rock.