How long till 1GB of vram is not enough?

[rectifryer]

or maybe that its not DX9?

Is dx10 and 11 supposed to be more efficient? I thought no current processor actually fully supports dx11? I dont know, metro is set to dx11 and I do run crysis w/ dx9.

 

[Mussels]

Is dx10 and 11 supposed to be more efficient? I thought no current processor actually fully supports dx11? I dont know, metro is set to dx11 and I do run crysis w/ dx9.

yes, heaps more efficient. multi threaded, doesnt duplicate VGA ram in system ram, and heaps more on top.

the only reason DX9 titles still come out, is to milk old game engines for profit, and consoles (same thing really)

 

[TRWOV]

DX9 is the baseline for W7 so it makes sense to support it.

 

[Mussels]

DX9 is the baseline for W7 so it makes sense to support it.

W7 aero can use DX10, saves RAM.


any hardware thats DX9 only, is too slow for modern games anyway.

 

[eidairaman1]

any game that is DX 10 only (Meaning no use of DX9 API) or higher will not work on DX 9 hardware

 

[Mussels]

any game that is DX 10 only (Meaning no use of DX9 API) or higher will not work on DX 9 hardware

and what modern game would run on DX9 hardware anyway?

 

[Aquinus]

You know, DX 10 and 11 are just extensions of DX 9. Anything DX 9 has, you will find in DX 10 and 11. The only difference is that every subsequent version has extra instructions provided by DX and have typically introduced a number of performance enhancements. So keep in mind that 90% of the time, I bet you games are using DX APIs that have been around since DX 9.

 

[blibba]

and what modern game would run on DX9 hardware anyway?

Valve games, indie games, community developed games, WoW.

Of course there are also lots of older games that are still very popular (CoD 4, CS 1.6), but that's kinda missing the point.

 

[Dent1]

My PC isn't crashing just the game when it hits 1GB VRAM.

Like I said, your PC shouldnt be crashing at all whether you exceed the vram limit or not.

Your issue isnt vram related, a computer is supposed to be robust and handle a vram limitation, hence the reason it borrows reserves from the main memory.

 

[Calin Banc]

With games being more advanced and graphics getting better, when do you guys think that 1GB of vram won't be enough?

Today, if you play new games.

 

[Aquinus]

WoW

WoW has supported DX11 for a while now.

Today, if you play new games.

Only if you run games at full graphics, with AA jacked up all the way, at 1920x1200. I find even Skyrim plays fine at 1920x1200, Full graphics with 4x AA, 8x AA and I run out of video memory.

 

[INSTG8R]

WoW has supported DX11 for a while now.


Only if you run games at full graphics, with AA jacked up all the way, at 1920x1200. I find even Skyrim plays fine at 1920x1200, Full graphics with 4x AA, 8x AA and I run out of video memory.

Isn't that the point? To not have to sacrifice quality?

 

[Calin Banc]

Exactly. You can play with a 8800GT after all.

But, there isn't really a problem with the exception of a few cases: multi GPU solutions and perhaps GTX 570 1,2GB, HD6950 1GB/GF 560ti 1GB (even more so in CF/SLI). Newer cards come with at least 2GB/GPU, so it's all good.

 

[Aquinus]

Isn't that the point? To not have to sacrifice quality?

I wouldn't call bumping AA down to 4x to maintain 60 FPS a huge sacrifice.

 

[INSTG8R]

I wouldn't call bumping AA down to 4x to maintain 60 FPS a huge sacrifice.

Well I won't argue with that. I have never felt the need to use more than 4xAA myself.

 

[Calin Banc]

I wouldn't call bumping AA down to 4x to maintain 60 FPS a huge sacrifice.

Skyrim, Ultra, with mods and 4xAA in 1680x1050 hits around 1,55GB în Whiterun. There is no need for 8xAA to go above 1GB.

 

[Aquinus]

Skyrim, Ultra, with mods and 4xAA in 1680x1050 hits around 1,55GB în Whiterun. There is no need for 8xAA to go above 1GB.

If you're using Afterburner to judge that, that isn't purely GPU dedicated memory.

 

[INSTG8R]

If you're using Afterburner to judge that, that isn't purely GPU dedicated memory.

He's not wrong. I have seen Skyrim hit 1800MB on Ultra,4xAA@1920x1080 using the DLC Texture Mod. I was monitoring using AIDA 64 setup to monitor GPU memory usage.

 

[antuk15]

1Gb has been bad since the 5800 series released....

Even games that you don't expect eat over 1Gb VRAM at 1080p

 

[Krazy Owl]

I'm currently rolling a 8600GT 256megs with an HDMI adapter to play Battlefield 2 multiplayer at 1080P on a 32inches LEDTV so I suppose that 1gig is still far from being outdated.

 

[Dent1]

I'm currently rolling a 8600GT 256megs with an HDMI adapter to play Battlefield 2 multiplayer at 1080P on a 32inches LEDTV so I suppose that 1gig is still far from being outdated.

Battlefield 2? But the game you are playing is out-dated, so you proved nothing.

 

[Krazy Owl]

The game is outdated but what I meant is that it took time to find games who also outdated a 8600GT with only 256m. That was my point. I know this card wouldnt stand newer games.

 

[INSTG8R]

The game is outdated but what I meant is that it took time to find games who also outdated a 8600GT with only 256m. That was my point. I know this card wouldnt stand newer games.

Exactly! See how well it plays Battlefield 3 and you see the 1 GB argument is pretty valid

 

[Aquinus]

He's not wrong. I have seen Skyrim hit 1800MB on Ultra,4xAA@1920x1080 using the DLC Texture Mod. I was monitoring using AIDA 64 setup to monitor GPU memory usage.

...and mine says that I'm using 1.3Gb of dedicated video memory on my 1Gb card when I run Skyrim at said settings on AIDA. Right!

 

[Mussels]

...and mine says that I'm using 1.3Gb of dedicated video memory on my 1Gb card when I run Skyrim at said settings on AIDA. Right!

readings tend to duplicate in crossfire. so halve that.