kysg
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System Name | Workhorse lappy |
---|---|
Processor | AMD A6 3420 |
Memory | 8GB DDR3 1066 |
Video Card(s) | ATI radeon 6520G |
Storage | OCZ Vertex4 128GB SSD SATAIII |
Display(s) | 15inch LCD |
Software | Windows 7 64bit |
1. Need to build a renderbox.
Why? well I got a laptop and renders are pretty slow on it.
2. I can't use macs at school to render and I can't render overnight at the junior college and cloud based rendering I've decided to pass on that.
3. The main purpose is so I can do lighting. I want to be able to render at full 1080P. I also do effects work in houdini and it runs like crap on my laptop.
my workflow is something like this. Gimp/photoshop > matchmover > maya > Composite/NUke > lightworks for video editing > houdini for effects.
I thought about GPU rendering but I think I want to go just straight CPU rendering due to the fact that I'm working in houdini and concentrating on fluids.
I plan on buying this mid January
OS is gonna be Linux - ubuntu I believe.
The budget I'm looking at is $1000 yep that is a lowball.
I can go up to $1400 to top it off.
FAQ's:
1. You budget is too unrealistic - So is everything that is in U.S. but on a serious note I'm not trying to render an FX movie and I know simulations will take a while to render even the stuff at studios take a long time to render on way better hardware than what I would get.
2. Buy an i7 or face the consequences - Well I did look at an i7 build and it may be a possibility but I'd like to see if I can scale down the price.
So hopefully that covers all that.
So this is what I've noticed from research I've done.
on the intel side best thing you can get is i7 6 core dual cpu'd - that is just not gonna happen
then there is the i7 ivy bridge this is out of reach
then there is the i7 sandy bridge this is a possibility
there is the i5 ivy/sandy bridge and these I can definitely see happening
i3 and below is just not gonna happen.
on the AMD end I mostly get the recommendation of 8 core piledriver. I'm not sure where this stacks vs the i7's and i5's...
I think it beats the i3's and I think is on par with i7 2nd gen sandy bridge....I could be wrong I may have read the benches incorrectly.
so that would leave the 6 core procs and the new trinity procs and I'm not sure where trinity procs stack up.
On the video card end.
There is Nvidia - I mostly see recommendations for GTX 640 Ti or something along that line
and for radeon I think its the 7790
Should I grab 1gb or 2gb card for the memory?
Also is possible to step down from a Ti on the nvidia end?
I probably need to research cuda cores and fermi because I have no idea what the heck that is.
I priced up 2 builds
1 AMD 8 core setup - This is about 800$ shipped to CA and that includes sales tax
AMD renderbox
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Update AMD FX-8320 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.0GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8320FRHKBOX
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Update Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
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Update ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor
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Update Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM
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In Stock
Subtotal: $827.91
1 Intel i7 sandy bridge setup - this is about 1100$ shipped to CA that includes sales tax
Intel renderbox
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Update Rosewill LINE-M Micro-ATX Mini Tower Computer Case, Dual USB 3.0, come with Dual Fans, Support up to 4 Fans, 12.5" card
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Update Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
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In Stock
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Update EVGA 01G-P4-3650-KR GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
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Update CORSAIR CX600M 600W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Model #:CP-9020060-NA
Item #:N82E16817139048
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $79.99 $79.99
Update Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM
Model #:AS5-3.5G
Item #:N82E16835100007
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In Stock
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Update Patriot Gamer 2 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PGD316G1333ELK
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Update MSI Z77MA-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
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Update Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
Model #:BX80623I72600K
Item #:N82E16819115070
Return Policy:CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $309.99 -$30.00 Instant $279.99
Update ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor
Model #:VS248H-P
Item #:N82E16824236153
Return Policy:Monitor Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate Card
Note (Add) $229.99 -$30.00 Instant $199.99
Subtotal: $999.91
both on microatx board. If a case and board combo come out cheaper than what I got then by all means suggest.
Further thoughts: A - got a lot of research to do. B - A lot of people say this thing is pretty unrealistic and yea but I got get something done I think its possible to get an i7 setup done, if not then i5 may be an option the price on i5 and 8core are similar pricing so it becomes tough to make that decision.
I just need to get something together obviously on the intel end if I take the sandybridge route I can upgrade to ivybridge later.
on the AMD end I'm topped out unfortunately...
So any further thoughts and advice would be helpful.
Sorry this post got so long
Why? well I got a laptop and renders are pretty slow on it.
2. I can't use macs at school to render and I can't render overnight at the junior college and cloud based rendering I've decided to pass on that.
3. The main purpose is so I can do lighting. I want to be able to render at full 1080P. I also do effects work in houdini and it runs like crap on my laptop.
my workflow is something like this. Gimp/photoshop > matchmover > maya > Composite/NUke > lightworks for video editing > houdini for effects.
I thought about GPU rendering but I think I want to go just straight CPU rendering due to the fact that I'm working in houdini and concentrating on fluids.
I plan on buying this mid January
OS is gonna be Linux - ubuntu I believe.
The budget I'm looking at is $1000 yep that is a lowball.
I can go up to $1400 to top it off.
FAQ's:
1. You budget is too unrealistic - So is everything that is in U.S. but on a serious note I'm not trying to render an FX movie and I know simulations will take a while to render even the stuff at studios take a long time to render on way better hardware than what I would get.
2. Buy an i7 or face the consequences - Well I did look at an i7 build and it may be a possibility but I'd like to see if I can scale down the price.
So hopefully that covers all that.
So this is what I've noticed from research I've done.
on the intel side best thing you can get is i7 6 core dual cpu'd - that is just not gonna happen
then there is the i7 ivy bridge this is out of reach
then there is the i7 sandy bridge this is a possibility
there is the i5 ivy/sandy bridge and these I can definitely see happening
i3 and below is just not gonna happen.
on the AMD end I mostly get the recommendation of 8 core piledriver. I'm not sure where this stacks vs the i7's and i5's...
I think it beats the i3's and I think is on par with i7 2nd gen sandy bridge....I could be wrong I may have read the benches incorrectly.
so that would leave the 6 core procs and the new trinity procs and I'm not sure where trinity procs stack up.
On the video card end.
There is Nvidia - I mostly see recommendations for GTX 640 Ti or something along that line
and for radeon I think its the 7790
Should I grab 1gb or 2gb card for the memory?
Also is possible to step down from a Ti on the nvidia end?
I probably need to research cuda cores and fermi because I have no idea what the heck that is.
I priced up 2 builds
1 AMD 8 core setup - This is about 800$ shipped to CA and that includes sales tax
AMD renderbox
Note for this wish list(Add) Qty. Image Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
Update Rosewill FBM-02 Dual Fans MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
Model #:FBM-02
Item #:N82E16811147167
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $39.99 -$5.00 Instant $34.99
Update GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 AM3+ AMD 760G USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Model #:GA-78LMT-USB3
Item #:N82E16813128565
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate Card
Note (Add) $69.99 -$5.00 Instant $64.99
Update PNY VCGGTX550TXPB GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Model #:VCGGTX550TXPB
Item #:N82E16814133383
Return Policy:VGA Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate
Note (Add) $109.99 $109.99
Update CORSAIR CX600M 600W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Model #:CP-9020060-NA
Item #:N82E16817139048
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $79.99 $79.99
Update AMD FX-8320 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.0GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8320FRHKBOX
Model #:FD8320FRHKBOX
Item #:N82E16819113285
Return Policy:CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $179.99 $179.99
Update CORSAIR 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMV16GX3M2A1333C9
Model #:CMV16GX3M2A1333C9
Item #:N82E16820233270
Return Policy:Memory Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $67.99 $67.99
Update Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:WD10EZEX
Item #:N82E16822236339
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $109.99 -$30.00 Instant $79.99
Update ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor
Model #:VS248H-P
Item #:N82E16824236153
Return Policy:Monitor Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate Card
Note (Add) $229.99 -$30.00 Instant $199.99
Update Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM
Model #:AS5-3.5G
Item #:N82E16835100007
Return Policy:Consumable Item Refund Only Return Policy
In Stock
Subtotal: $827.91
1 Intel i7 sandy bridge setup - this is about 1100$ shipped to CA that includes sales tax
Intel renderbox
Note for this wish list(Add) Qty. Image Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
Update Rosewill LINE-M Micro-ATX Mini Tower Computer Case, Dual USB 3.0, come with Dual Fans, Support up to 4 Fans, 12.5" card
Model #:LINE-M
Item #:N82E16811147166
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $49.99 -$10.00 Instant $39.99
Update Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:WD10EZEX
Item #:N82E16822236339
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $109.99 -$30.00 Instant $79.99
Update EVGA 01G-P4-3650-KR GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Model #:01G-P4-3650-KR
Item #:N82E16814130838
Return Policy:VGA Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $149.99 -$10.00 Instant $139.99
Update CORSAIR CX600M 600W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Model #:CP-9020060-NA
Item #:N82E16817139048
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $79.99 $79.99
Update Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM
Model #:AS5-3.5G
Item #:N82E16835100007
Return Policy:Consumable Item Refund Only Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $11.99 -$2.00 Instant $9.99
Update Patriot Gamer 2 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PGD316G1333ELK
Model #GD316G1333ELK
Item #:N82E16820220619
Return Policy:Memory Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $63.99 -$4.00 Instant $59.99
Update MSI Z77MA-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Model #:Z77MA-G45
Item #:N82E16813130647
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate Card
Note (Add) $119.99 -$10.00 Instant $109.99
Update Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
Model #:BX80623I72600K
Item #:N82E16819115070
Return Policy:CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock
Note (Add) $309.99 -$30.00 Instant $279.99
Update ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor
Model #:VS248H-P
Item #:N82E16824236153
Return Policy:Monitor Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate Card
Note (Add) $229.99 -$30.00 Instant $199.99
Subtotal: $999.91
both on microatx board. If a case and board combo come out cheaper than what I got then by all means suggest.
Further thoughts: A - got a lot of research to do. B - A lot of people say this thing is pretty unrealistic and yea but I got get something done I think its possible to get an i7 setup done, if not then i5 may be an option the price on i5 and 8core are similar pricing so it becomes tough to make that decision.
I just need to get something together obviously on the intel end if I take the sandybridge route I can upgrade to ivybridge later.
on the AMD end I'm topped out unfortunately...
So any further thoughts and advice would be helpful.
Sorry this post got so long