Swiftech Withdraws H220 CPU Liquid Cooling Kit from US Market

tacosRcool · Jul 24, 2013

Why can't everybody just get along?

newtekie1 · Jul 24, 2013

tacosRcool said:
Why can't everybody just get along?

Because it sucks to spend time developing an idea only to have another company rip the idea off and sell it as their own.

Sp33d Junki3 · Jul 24, 2013

I never said it was about close loops coolers.

MT Alex · Jul 24, 2013

newtekie1 said:
Because it sucks to spend time developing an idea only to have another company rip the idea off and sell it as their own.

Swiftech's pump system is vastly superior to Asetek's, and their block is only similar in the fact that it is copper. Following the whole pump/block patent theory would be like Yugo suing Lamborghini because they put a motor in a car chassis.

erocker · Jul 24, 2013

newtekie1 said:
Because it sucks to spend time developing an idea only to have another company rip the idea off and sell it as their own.

Must especially suck when the other company makes a vastly superior product too.

jihadjoe · Aug 12, 2013

erocker said:
Must especially suck when the other company makes a vastly superior product too.

Didn't this happen way back in 1905 with Springfield and Mauser? From what I've read about it the US paid royalties to the tune of $200,000 when they found that the M1903 infringed on seven of Mauser's patents.

newtekie1 · Aug 12, 2013

erocker said:
Must especially suck when the other company makes a vastly superior product too.

What exactly do you mean by "vastly superior"? The Asetek built H110 hands the H220 its ass performance wise. The only thing "superior" is the BS customization, which basically defeats the point of an AIO.

xhawn11 · Aug 13, 2013

^ is that the best review you can find?

Frick · Aug 13, 2013

xhawn11 said:
^ is that the best review you can find?

Reviewing coolers isn't difficult, as long as all coolers are tested in the same way, which I'm pretty sure is the case at Anandtech.

MT Alex · Aug 13, 2013

newtekie1 said:
What exactly do you mean by "vastly superior"? The Asetek built H110 hands the H220 its ass performance wise. The only thing "superior" is the BS customization, which basically defeats the point of an AIO.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6716/52896.png

Umm, the H100 is a 280mm rad compared to the H220s 240mm, so yeah, it gets a few degrees, not exactly an ass whooping. The true comparison would be the H100i with it's similar radiator, which doesn't perform as well or as quiet. Thanks for the chart, though.

newtekie1 · Aug 13, 2013

MT Alex said:
Umm, the H100 is a 280mm rad compared to the H220s 240mm, so yeah, it gets a few degrees, not exactly an ass whooping. The true comparison would be the H100i with it's similar radiator, which doesn't perform as well or as quiet. Thanks for the chart, though.

Except the H100i isn't made by Asetek.

MT Alex · Aug 13, 2013

newtekie1 said:
Except the H100i isn't made by Asetek.

Then why isn't it on the chopping block as well? That wasn't the point of the post, anyhow, which you conveniently didn't respond to.

newtekie1 · Aug 13, 2013

MT Alex said:
Then why isn't it on the chopping block as well?

CoolIT products are on the chopping block, CoolIT and Asetek are in a legal battle over the issue.

MT Alex said:
That wasn't the point of the post, anyhow, which you conveniently didn't respond to.

You're absolutely right, a true comparison would be the H100 vs H220 with the same fans, but I couldn't find any respected reviews comparing the two.

MT Alex · Aug 13, 2013

newtekie1 said:
CoolIT products are on the chopping block, CoolIT and Asetek are in a legal battle over the issue.

You're absolutely right, a true comparison would be the H100 vs H220 with the same fans, but I couldn't find any respected reviews comparing the two.

Fair enough

I'm hoping that a solution is found that works out for all manufacturers involved, not only for their sake, but also the consumer's.

EarthDog · Aug 13, 2013

That is also the H110 280, not an H100. Big difference there.

claes · Aug 14, 2013

MartinsLiquidLab did one with the h100i. http://martinsliquidlab.org/2013/03/13/corsair-hydro-series-h100i-aio-cpu-cooler/9/

That said, the Corsair AIOs are not really comparable to the h220. The h220 has a superior pump in every regard - way quieter, much more flow. It is also expandable, in that you can use it to cool your GPUs or any other component you can find a block for. It also comes with much, much better fans.

erocker · Aug 14, 2013

claes said:
MartinsLiquidLab did one with the h100i. http://martinsliquidlab.org/2013/03/13/corsair-hydro-series-h100i-aio-cpu-cooler/9/

That said, the Corsair AIOs are not really comparable to the h220. The h220 has a superior pump in every regard - way quieter, more flow. It is also expandable, in that you can use it to cool your GPUs or any other component you can find a block for. It is also comes with much, much better fans.

Indeed. The Swiftech h220 is by far the superior product for all of the AIO water coolers. Which makes sense as to why they were first on the chopping block. Swiftech now just needs to do better advertising with their kit that is the same thing as the AIO h220, just not assembled.

m1dg3t · Aug 14, 2013

xhawn11 said:
^ is that the best review you can find?

TruDat!

erocker said:
The Swiftech h220 is by far the superior product for all of the AIO water coolers.

Hands down! Nearly identical performance to an Apogee drive 2/mcr220 combo :rockout:

DanishDevil · Sep 20, 2013

NCIXUS is selling the H220 on sale for $129.99 through September 25th! Just picked one up, I hope the order goes through.

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=79583&vpn=H220&manufacture=Swiftech&promoid=1258

newtekie1 · Sep 20, 2013

erocker said:
Indeed. The Swiftech h220 is by far the superior product for all of the AIO water coolers. Which makes sense as to why they were first on the chopping block. Swiftech now just needs to do better advertising with their kit that is the same thing as the AIO h220, just not assembled.

I'm pretty sure CoolIT was sued first, Swiftech is just the first to give up and actually pull products.

spikey27 · Sep 24, 2013

spikey27

Although Asetek's response said they did not offer such licensing, I believe the opposite to be true. Visit their site, and others using their technology, and decide for yourself.

Numerous posts herein suggest Asetek is protecting their interests. I totally disagree - what they're doing is using their patent (validity not yet determined) and the threat of a lawsuit related thereto, to eliminate their strongest competition who likely has the best product through intimidation.

I hope somebody has the fortitude to destroy their patents.

For starters, I don't believe Asetek had the first such product. I suspect someone else (CoolerMaster?) had something which serves as apriori.

My 2cents worth.

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