Microsoft to Acquire Nokia's Devices & Services Business

FordGT90Concept · Sep 3, 2013

micropage7 said:
Maybe yes and maybe not

Not maybe. I have a Lumia 900 (WP7) and Lumia 920 (WP8).

micropage7 said:
WP interface its like win8 and somehow i feel like Ms wanna follow apple

Windows Phone 7 (November 8, 2010) came out with Metro long before Windows 8 debuted (August 1, 2012). Both came about from usability research just like the changes that appeared in Windows Vista did (also frustrated die-hards).

iOS and Windows Phone 8 have little in common beyond having a walled garden for software.

Frick said:
If you're talking interfaces MS have talked about "Windows Everywhere" for quite some time. Shared kernel and a unified UI are steps towards that.

Makes sense. It is cheaper to add features and fix problems.

rtwjunkie · Sep 3, 2013

Actually this is a good thing. Windows phones are selling pretty well. I've used since Windows phone 7, and like much better than iphone and several androids (Can't speak for all). While not a fan of the Start Screen on W8, I actually very much like it on Windows Phone...it's intuitive, touch-oriented, and makes alot of sense. I knew with W Phone 7 we were beta-testing basically the next Windows (W8). With MS backing they should get even more success, kind of like iOS has Apple backing them.

Red_Machine · Sep 3, 2013

I've kinda been expecting this for a while, tbh. Nokia's been lagging behind in recent years, Windows Phone seemed to be all that was sustaining them.

There's one big thing that I think will really help WP's market share: AAC codec built into the OS. Which means the millions of people the world over who have iTunes accounts can just sync it straight to their Lumia without converting anything or starting from scratch.

FordGT90Concept · Sep 3, 2013

But Windows Phone doesn't have native FLAC support.

Red_Machine · Sep 3, 2013

Barely anybody does, it's not surprising.

Fourstaff · Sep 3, 2013

Red_Machine said:
Barely anybody does, it's not surprising.

Android does, Apple has ALAC

FordGT90Concept · Sep 3, 2013

Red_Machine said:
Barely anybody does, it's not surprising.

It's open source and free. No excuse not to support it.

Frick · Sep 3, 2013

Red_Machine said:
I've kinda been expecting this for a while, tbh. Nokia's been lagging behind in recent years, Windows Phone seemed to be all that was sustaining them.

Nonono, that has been the low end phones.

That was last year. Now it looks worse, but they still have twice the total market share than Apple.

Triprift · Sep 3, 2013

Wonder what % of Nokia sales have been of feature phones compared to Lumia devices.

Red_Machine · Sep 3, 2013

Fourstaff said:
Android does, Apple has ALAC

ALAC is not FLAC. If you want to include that, then you may was well include Microsoft's Windows Media Audio Lossless (WMAL).

Frick · Sep 3, 2013

Triprift said:
Wonder what % of Nokia sales have been of feature phones compared to Lumia devices.

Tried to find fresh numbers, but my Googling skills are failing. Plus I have a headache. Mostly it's bad googling skills.

Fourstaff · Sep 3, 2013

Red_Machine said:
ALAC is not FLAC. If you want to include that, then you may was well include Microsoft's Windows Media Audio Lossless (WMAL).

Probably, but hardly anyone uses WMAL, but most of the iTunes users (comprising of the majority of the iPhone users) have dabbled with ALAC.

m1dg3t · Sep 3, 2013

Had WP6 IIRc on my HTC TouchPRO 2, was a pretty damn good fone! This partnership should bring some cool stuff to market in the future!

Digital audio, is digital audio. It's all lossy. If you want lossless, buy a turntable and stay home. Or you could get even more lossless with a RTR or tape deck

FordGT90Concept · Sep 3, 2013

ALAC, WMAL, nor AAC can replace MP3; FLAC can. Apple nor Microsoft want to admit that. I'm sure the RIAA and similar organizations have something to do with it too (insist on DRM).

Fourstaff · Sep 3, 2013

FordGT90Concept said:
ALAC, WMAL, nor AAC can replace MP3; FLAC can. Apple nor Microsoft want to admit that. I'm sure the RIAA and similar organizations have something to do with it too (insist on DRM).

Why would you want to replace MP3? Not many people can hear the difference between MP3 VBR and Loseless, and Loseless eats up a few times more space.

Solidstate89 · Sep 3, 2013

I'm actually quite excited to see what kind of designs a combined design department of Nokia and Microsoft can come up with. The sales may have been laggard, but the Surface tablets are some of the best examples of industrial design anywhere.

It's almost a shame I have wait a year or two to see the true combined efforts.

Roph said:
Did he ever really leave? He basically seemed like a trojan. Rather than outright buy Nokia, insert a microsoft exec as CEO, run nokia into the ground by pushing an OS that nobody wants, then buy nokia itself on the cheap when nobody wants that anymore either.

I'm so sick of hearing this. How do you "insert" a CEO at another company that requires the approval of the entire board of that company? The Board chose Elop, the Board approved Elop. How does Microsoft figure into deciding what CEO Nokia was going to have? I have yet to see a single person ever explain past this part.

Dos101 · Sep 3, 2013

Fourstaff said:
Who is hating WP in this thread?

He's probably anticipating it based on the comment sections of all the other major sites covering this story.

FordGT90Concept said:
Windows Phone 7 (November 8, 2010) came out with Metro long before Windows 8 debuted (August 1, 2012). Both came about from usability research just like the changes that appeared in Windows Vista did (also frustrated die-hards).

Exactly, and the Metro design mostly stemmed from the cancelled Courier Project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Courier

Solidstate89 · Sep 3, 2013

Dos101 said:
Exactly, and the Metro design mostly stemmed from the cancelled Courier Project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Courier

Actually, most if not all of the inspiration came from the Zune HD.

FordGT90Concept · Sep 3, 2013

Fourstaff said:
Why would you want to replace MP3? Not many people can hear the difference between MP3 VBR and Loseless, and Loseless eats up a few times more space.

Because MP3 is stereo-only and only supports up to 48 KHz. FLAC supports at least 11 discreet channels and at least 192 KHz. The sample rate makes a HUGE difference with high-hats as long as you got tweeters that can vibrate that fast. >2 channels being obvious goes without saying.

erixx · Sep 3, 2013

In general, I may be wrong, but the only thing in WP8 that resembles Windows 8 is IE and the live tile idea, I was surprised to find so little in common... (coding apart). Shows clearly how much bull flies in the internetz...

Also add that Symbian phones are still used a lot and for a reason: stable, ease of use, battery live of nearly a week. They Phone and they Message, take a pic now and then, Google stuff and use Nokia Maps, period.
Some people do not care about stinking apps o crappy games. Weirdos!!! LOL

hero1 · Sep 3, 2013

Good News

Now let's hope that they continue the excellent work of Nokia engineering and make WP a very attractive platform for people who haven't experienced one. It probably is the best of all smartphones OSs out there.

GSquadron · Sep 3, 2013

When somebody buys a cellphone, he buys it because of the apps you can run in it
If there is the same OS on two different cell phones, then the most powerful device wins the game

I really hate MS even though I use Windows 7 (I was actually thinking to switch to Linux for quite some time)

Frick · Sep 3, 2013

Aleksander said:
I really hate MS even though I use Windows 7 (I was actually thinking to switch to Linux for quite some time)

Then stop your bitching and just do it. Good god.

GSquadron · Sep 4, 2013

Frick said:
Then stop your bitching and just do it. Good god.

LoL, are you going to switch my PC games to linux and other softwares?
This is what I call checkmate :pimp:

TheMailMan78 · Sep 5, 2013

Aleksander said:
LoL, are you going to switch my PC games to linux and other softwares?
This is what I call checkmate

No, checkmate goes to Microsoft owning your ass because like all battered woman you keep going back. You'll bitch but never leave Suga Daddy Gates because dat mans milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.

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