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I do not understand what you are trying to point out? A loose connector?

Seems obvious to me, that thing sticking out the back is going to want to fall downwards, thereby bending/deforming the tiny little socket that is holding the weight of them connectors and the cable.
 

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Brand of other cards

thanks for the review and benchmark for so many games lol, but frankly I find it rather useless to compare a brand build with a bunch of reference models. at the end of the day not many ppl would use a reference model and most of the top brands now days come with a default OC and varies coolers that could make a lot of difference in terms of power/temp/noise level (and with the same rm price)

i would say a more useful comparison will be to compare models with the same brand using the same cooler and similar level of default OC

and BTW where did you guys get the reference model for r9 280x? I thought there's no rm for that
 

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thanks for the review and benchmark for so many games lol, but frankly I find it rather useless to compare a brand build with a bunch of reference models. at the end of the day not many ppl would use a reference model and most of the top brands now days come with a default OC and varies coolers that could make a lot of difference in terms of power/temp/noise level (and with the same rm price)

i would say a more useful comparison will be to compare models with the same brand using the same cooler and similar level of default OC

and BTW where did you guys get the reference model for r9 280x? I thought there's no rm for that

usually those modified cards come with a pissy 25MHz OC, cost $50-$100 more and then cut out features like voltage control, and come with a noisier cooler.

reference benchmarks are neccesary, and far more important than testing 20 slightly different cards where the only real difference is the fan they used.
 

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Don't worry, this is a typical review from TPU. AMD must suck for some reason :lol:

you know its interesting that you say things like this because i remember inbetween 05 and 07 for some reason everyone thought TPU was ATI biased and nvidia was the devil to w1zz it wasnt true then either. Its almost like he reports what he sees. Crazy stuff.
 

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Even with the updated Bios, the 82C seems to high of a temperature.
 

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Even with the updated Bios, the 82C seems to high of a temperature.

the card runs quiet - they chose silence over cooling. manually upping the fan speeds would change that.
 
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the card runs quiet - they chose silence over cooling. manually upping the fan speeds would change that.

That's unfortunate, wonder if their Lighting version will up the cooling and lower the temps.
 

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That's unfortunate, wonder if their Lighting version will up the cooling and lower the temps.

most users would prefer it to be quieter with the option of louder. most users will notice a noisy card but never find the fan speed slider and just be unhappy with it.
 
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Expressing a personal opinion on my preference equals a personal attack on you?

Didn't realize that the GHz Edition was such a vast improvement over base 7970. I stand corrected.
There isn't really any improvement both the 280X gaming and the 7970 you listed are both clocked the same (1050mhz). Theres little difference if any

Have fun with your non-GHz edition 7970 and games I either already have or don't want.
The MSI 7970 boost he posted is clocked at 1050mhz....... (that same speeds as the 280x). Did you even read his link ? (I'm assuming you didn't or your ignorant)
 

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hi. may i know the low and high fan noise and temperature . you wrrote just max temperature. i dont know its with or without OC !!!! i want to buy it but i need those result after bios update !!! thanks :)
 

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atiwinflash wont let me update BIOS

When I try to update the MSI 280x with atiwinflash it gives me an error message that says "subsystem id mismatch". How do I get around this?
 
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When I try to update the MSI 280x with atiwinflash it gives me an error message that says "subsystem id mismatch". How do I get around this?
Hello.

I've seen the same issue mentioned, but with the GIGABYTE R9 280X OC variant over a thread I've opened regarding its fan noise issue.

Until someone that has first-hand BIOS flashing experience with this card comes along,
it might be worth checking out the Driver disc that came with your graphics card for a flashing tool (perhaps a different version of ATIwinflash).

Or, it might be possible and safe to flash using the MSI Live Update 5 utility that's featured on the download section of the graphics card's web page.

In any case, it would be appreciated if you could come back here and let us know how it went.


Regards,
//Subscribed to thread.
 

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Idle noise

Hello Wizzard, thanks for the review.

However I have a question about the idle noise. It says 28dBA in your measurements, which seems VERY high, compared to your other reviews on cards. Is it really inaudible in idle? Is it silent in idle to the likes of the 670 asus dc2? As that scores 24 dbA. You score the 760 MSI gaming 25 dbA idle but I think it was pretty loud idle in my user scenario( node 304 on desk). Still you say on the 28dbA idle of the 280x MSI: 'Idle noise levels are great, making the card barely audible'. So this contradicts the 28dbA measurement.

Basically I am looking for the most silent in idle 7950/7970/280x which seems to be the VTX3D 7970 according to your reviews, but unfortunately not really available anymore.

In the review of us.hardware.info http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4892/7/amd-radeon-r9-280x--r9-270x-from-asus-and-msi-review-r9-in-practice-cooling-noise-production-and-energy-consumption they seem to rank the MSI 280x quieter in idle than the 760 gaming.

So I am confused right now.
 
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Whats the best procedure to update the bios?

I don't see anything on the MSI site regarding the BIOS update or the procedure to install it.

Also what the BIOS version I should check in GPU-Z to see if its already current? Mine is still in the mail.
 

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Whats the best procedure to update the bios?

I don't see anything on the MSI site regarding the BIOS update or the procedure to install it.

Also what the BIOS version I should check in GPU-Z to see if its already current? Mine is still in the mail.

if there isnt any listed, your card already has the newest. w1zzy almost always gets his early, before they go retail.
 
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Would there be a measurable decrease in performance using this card on a PCIe 2.0 slot?
 
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Would there be a measurable decrease in performance using this card on a PCIe 2.0 slot?

With a single one? Nope.
Only in encoding stuff, but even people that use them for that, aren't concerned for 5-15% lower performance here and there, over 2.0.
 
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This card is a beast, maxed out BF4 and Splinter Cell Blacklist at 1920x1200 and ran smoothly, didn't get the FPS numbers, but with vsync on ran very smooth even with my slightly dated CPU and only 6GB ram. I'm actually glad i didn't bother getting the 290 or 290x, its unnecessary unless you're running eyefinity or a 4k screen IMO.

Also ran Furmark at 1080P with 8x MSAA and only reached 71C after about an hour in my corsair 600T.

yeah its got some coil whine under high load, but with the sound up on BF4 who would notice?

overall extremely happy with the card.
 

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This card is a beast, maxed out BF4 and Splinter Cell Blacklist at 1920x1200 and ran smoothly, didn't get the FPS numbers, but with vsync on ran very smooth even with my slightly dated CPU and only 6GB ram. I'm actually glad i didn't bother getting the 290 or 290x, its unnecessary unless you're running eyefinity or a 4k screen IMO.

Also ran Furmark at 1080P with 8x MSAA and only reached 71C after about an hour in my corsair 600T.

yeah its got some coil whine under high load, but with the sound up on BF4 who would notice?

overall extremely happy with the card.

your opinion matches mine on my 7970 (same card, really). for 1080p, a 280x/7970 is perfect for current generation games, and probably a few more to come.
 
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how is it wrong? It just says.
"On NVIDIA cards with boost, the values discussed here are base clock. Boost will further increase clocks."

Obviously the AMD card is not an Nvidia card thus the statement does not apply. Kinda self explanatory
 

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how is it wrong? It just says.
"On NVIDIA cards with boost, the values discussed here are base clock. Boost will further increase clocks."

Obviously the AMD card is not an Nvidia card thus the statement does not apply. Kinda self explanatory

its just a typo using a template from an nvidia review.
 
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