Do "gaming" PCs require i5 procs?

GreiverBlade · Jan 28, 2014

FX-GMC said:
Especially a benchmark that barely tickles the cpu when it runs.

indeed it is why i said gpu bound bench so 12pts is within the normal run variance parameter, still even if its not a I7-3770K or a 2700K it is enough.

trickson · Jan 28, 2014

FX-GMC said:
Especially a benchmark that barely tickles the cpu when it runs.

Much like games benchmarks do not mature very fast. so they become useless very fast.

GreiverBlade · Jan 28, 2014

trickson said:
Much like games benchmarks do not mature very fast. so they become useless very fast.

which is not the case with unigine's benchies

actually not so much games take the cpu in equation (except RTS etc) so in the end technically, is a i5 the minimum for a gamer pc? answer : no (nor is a i7)

so much different opinion so much different budget/cause that can justify a choice: only a fool think his opinion is supreme and above all.

trickson · Jan 28, 2014

GreiverBlade said:
which is not the case with unigine's benchies

Never like it.

GreiverBlade · Jan 28, 2014

oh in heaven it does also 12pts more than the Xeon setup ... once is a coincidence twice ... is ... alright alright i get it ...

...PACMAN... · Jan 28, 2014

GreiverBlade said:
true that ... and for me the best i could afford does 12pts more in a gpu bound bench with exactly the same gpu i used with my Xeon ...
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the Xeon setup was doing 1621... so my X4 760K do ... oh wait nevermind it's not a i7-2700K

You are showing a GPU bound test with a result that falls within error and margin......NULL and void

Try playing WoW in a heavily populated area with the same CPU on max details and I'll show you my results in the same area

GreiverBlade · Jan 28, 2014

FFXIVARR count? i a merchant alley fairly populated settings all to the max 40ish fps the Xeon was doing, indeed, a bit better as far as i recall

Firefall Copacabana nanoprinter : 760K 45fps indeed the Xeon was going stable 60fps
WoW i don't play it anymore

and i know perfectly it is GPU bound

tho with the SAME gpu in a GPU bound test (indeed i know that) and in both bench the 760K do 12pts, higher min/max/avg fps
strictly im not caring that much, due to bill and budget cut i had to downgrade but i don't feel it: for me it's a winner on every side

and judging by your syspecs i think i like it

same graphic card, wait ... brand and serie

hum G.Skill 2133 ? what model? and no need for ODD just the H/ass/well is a bit off ... (don't hit me i am joking

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Frick · Jan 28, 2014

trickson said:
Now days they are for sure. But there was a time when they were so hot we had threads with thousands of screen shoots and huge Epeens all erect! It was a great time.
Now Benchmarks are just BS and mean little really. The next new CPU/GPU/Mother Board/Video Card, Ram is just a day away folks....

All of that is still very popular, not just to you. And benchmark have always been sort of pointless.

eidairaman1 · Jan 28, 2014

depends on what resoulution and detail level you want to push, Gamers today get AMD FX 4350,6300/6350/8320/8350/9370/9590/A10 5800/A10 6800 or Sandybridge 2600,2700, or Ivybridge.

It depends on what your budget is, Im putting together an AMD rig (havent built a machine in 10+ Years)

True Christian · Jan 28, 2014

TheMailMan78 said:
2600K is needed as a bare minimum if you want 60 FPS on all AAA games combined with a decent GPU. Anything below is trash for gaming.

Come on! You're telling me my 4-core i5 2500K at 4.5Ghz isn't good enough for gaming? I agree. An i5 at stock is the minimum you want to run fps. I run my i5 at 4.5Ghz and this really helps fps.

eidairaman1 · Jan 28, 2014

True Christian said:
Come on! You're telling me my 4-core i5 2500K at 4.5Ghz isn't good enough for gaming? I agree. An i5 at stock is the minimum you want to run fps. I run my i5 at 4.5Ghz and this really helps fps.

not much difference between 2500/2600

Nordic · Jan 28, 2014

I applaud you mailman. So many took the bait.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 28, 2014

james888 said:
I applaud you mailman. So many took the bait.

I have to once in a while to make sure I still got it ya know?

GreiverBlade · Jan 28, 2014

james888 said:
I applaud you mailman. So many took the bait.

damn ... and they said nothing ... oh wait the answer where still in the optic of the thread so no bait laid in the end

or... nah who care

webguy09 · Jan 29, 2014

Depending on what game you're playing, the processor may not matter at all.

However, your PC is only as slow as your slowest component.

I never get anything less than a quad core i7 in my PCs, but that's just me.

Frick · Jan 29, 2014

james888 said:
I applaud you mailman. So many took the bait.

If we would not reply to troll bait the forums would soon be empty.

trickson · Jan 29, 2014

webguy09 said:
Depending on what game you're playing, the processor may not matter at all.

However, your PC is only as slow as your slowest component.

I never get anything less than a quad core i7 in my PCs, but that's just me.

So basically nothing but the best. Yep and when you have it is easy to do.

trickson · Jan 29, 2014

Easy Rhino said:
Modern i3 procs are very powerful. Coupled with something like a 770GTX, will today's PC games play just fine?

Yes for years to come.

leeb2013 · Jan 31, 2014

I prefer 4 strong cores that 8 weak ones, because anything which isn't optimised for >4 cores is going to run faster. Only apps which will specifically use all 8 weak cores will match 4 strong cores.
Also I don't buy this "operating system will use 2 cores" etc. I've never seen windows 7 use more than a blip of the I5. Does the O/s start needing 2 cores for itself when running games? If the game is using all 4 cores, can the o/s do nothing? I don't think so. The cores can be both running the game and doing background stuff. They don't need to be reserved for the o/s.

Maybe the PS4 needs to reserve cores for the o/s because they are so weak and low clocked, but not a decent Intel CPU.

ste2425 · Jan 31, 2014

just by a D-Wave

FreedomEclipse · Jan 31, 2014

Easy Rhino said:
Modern i3 procs are very powerful. Coupled with something like a 770GTX, will today's PC games play just fine?

Agree with this i do.

APUs might have an unlocked multi which means they can be overclocked but the architecture is still not efficient as intels. If i was on a budget id definitely go for an i3 over an APU depending on the circumstances

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Do "gaming" PCs require i5 procs?

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