New Texas Hold'Em poker game algorithm is literally unbeatable

qubit · Jan 11, 2015

No point worth playing, then. Casinos will make a killing off it.

The best limit Texas Hold'Em poker player in the world is a robot. Given enough hands, it will never, ever lose, regardless of what its opponent does or which cards it is dealt.

Poker being what it is, the robot, named Cepheus after a constellation in the northern hemisphere, will lose if it's dealt an inferior hand, but it will minimize its losses as best as is mathematically possible and will slowly but surely take your money by making the "perfect" decision in any given scenario. Heads-up limit Hold'Em, it can be said, has been "solved."

Heads-up limit Hold’Em is a type of poker in which only certain amounts of money can be bet during certain times of the game. It’s far less popular (and less complex) than no limit poker, in which bets are only limited by how much money a player has (meaning there are many more decisions in the game).

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AphexDreamer · Jan 11, 2015

Well it is only one type of poker and a not so popular one at that, so Casinos sadly will still make a killing but I like where this research is going and the doors it opens.

Steevo · Jan 11, 2015

So would it be illegal to have someone feeding you answers the casino will use from the same program?

qubit · Jan 11, 2015

Steevo said:
So would it be illegal to have someone feeding you answers the casino will use from the same program?

Yes, I'm sure of that. Casinos are all about taking your money in any sneaky, underhand way they can. They're also infiltrated by organized crime in perhaps every case, so there's no way they'll let you do the same as they are. Think, why do they ban card counters? They're not actually breaking any rules. They're simply so good at what they do that they profit instead of the casino, yet they're not allowed to carry on and that's corruption.

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WhiteLotus · Jan 11, 2015

Of course this would happen. Poker is a game of chance, one where you must play in such a way that you minimise your losses and maximise your gains. This algorithm is a risk calculator, nothing more. The computer just bets low on high risk hands and high on low risk hands, a human could do the same if it was able to calculate all the variables almost instantaneously.

AphexDreamer · Jan 11, 2015

WhiteLotus said:
Of course this would happen. Poker is a game of chance, one where you must play in such a way that you minimise your losses and maximise your gains. This algorithm is a risk calculator, nothing more. The computer just bets low on high risk hands and high on low risk hands, a human could do the same if it was able to calculate all the variables almost instantaneously.

I don't think the algorithm is so simple because it should also take into account bluffs but more or less that. Its played its self so many times that it has more "experience" than the entire human race so that it knows when situations look good and when situations look bad. At least that is what I understood.

RejZoR · Jan 12, 2015

And if it knows who has what cards, that's like marking them all and counting them...

FordGT90Concept · Jan 12, 2015

"The house always wins."

R-T-B · Jan 12, 2015

FordGT90Concept said:
"The house always wins."

Damnit, I was about to post that. Yep, it's true.

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