Can i pair a asus GeForce gtx 970 with a bit older power supply: "LC-Power LC600H-12 600Watt"

[GeneralSnuggly]

I haven't heard of a modern 600 watt PSU that didn't have a 8 pin or 6+2 pin PCIe power connector on it. How old is this PSU? Can you take a pic of the connectors and post it here?

Sure, im gonna do that first thing next morning

 

[GeneralSnuggly]

My mistake... i got confused by the term "Pair"....
GTX 970 Reference Card uses 2 6Pins PCIe conector...
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Thats all nice and cool, but as far as im informed the asus one uses one eight pin connector, and i have the only option of getting the asus one... :/ alright im gonna post a picture of all the cables and shit tomorrow thanks

 

[peche]

Thats all nice and cool, but as far as im informed the asus one uses one eight pin connector, and i have the only option of getting the asus one... :/ alright im gonna post a picture of all the cables and shit tomorrow thanks

im watching asus site but they only offer the 980 with the reference cooler... my bad
http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GTX9804GD5/specifications/

Regards,

 

[stelly]

That could be, but when Nvidia release some new cards I have that feeling that is always better than the RIVAL's Cards

I used to be an Nvidia fan . Now , i owned many video cards , Nvidia and ATi and i have to admit that i liked Nvidia more because of the poor linux drivers support for ATI cards . But in the same time , i've never fried a ATI card and fried a lot of Nvidias . Never overclocked a graphic card , it happened . Considering the prices , i went for ATI/AMD in the end . I don't want to pay extra money for something i don't use or notice , like CUDA or Physx . The HD5870 was the best video card i had , along with a GTX285 . Now i have this R9 , but i still mourn the 5870 .

 

[kurosagi01]

A GTX970 does use 2 6pins and it runs perfectly on 600w,i am currently running one with my 650w. Although i would definitely look into getting a new PSU.

 

[XSI]

8pin connector is same as 6+2 pin connector. you just have 2pin separated from 6pin.
you power supply will be fine if you have needed connectors.

 

[RCoon]

It's a Great Wall OEM power supply, and has been internally rated. That means it is not officially bronze rated by the 80PLUS foundation. Too many manufacturers do this, and it irritates me, because it's blatantly putting a label on a unit that shouldn't have it.

It's certification is currently pending, they've never had a particularly shining review (in fact they've only had 3 reviews years ago, and they were on their Andyson OEM units), and its a dual 20A rail psu, so it's actually a 480W PSU plus the 5v and 3v lines. 600W is a bold claim.

I'd run a single card on it, but not for very long. Consider a new PSU, especially if you intend on running dual cards.

 

[newtekie1]

It's a Great Wall OEM power supply, and has been internally rated. That means it is not officially bronze rated by the 80PLUS foundation. Too many manufacturers do this, and it irritates me, because it's blatantly putting a label on a unit that shouldn't have it.

It's certification is currently pending, they've never had a particularly shining review (in fact they've only had 3 reviews years ago, and they were on their Andyson OEM units), and its a dual 20A rail psu, so it's actually a 480W PSU plus the 5v and 3v lines. 600W is a bold claim.

I'd run a single card on it, but not for very long. Consider a new PSU, especially if you intend on running dual cards.

They don't claim it to be Bronze, just 80+ Standard.

The 600w is the "peak" rating as well, so the unit is really only good for somewhere in the ~480w range like you said continuous. Not that it matters with as little power as the 970 uses. The 970 will run fine on a 400w unit.

 

[Keullo-e]

High-end card with a truly crappy PSU? Go on ahead if you're liking to risk your GPU dying.

I would get a good quality PSU and take that crap out ASAP.

 

[GeneralSnuggly]

Here are the pics, if it helps anyhow

 

[newtekie1]

The plug you need is currently plugged into your graphics card you have now. The extra 2 pins to make it an 8-pin are right in the middle of the last picture.

High-end card with a truly crappy PSU? Go on ahead if you're liking to risk your GPU dying.

I would get a good quality PSU and take that crap out ASAP.

Just because it doesn't have Corsair or Seasonic stamped on the side doesn't mean it is a crap PSU. It will easily do what the OP needs with power to spare and is a decent unit.

It has Active PFC and meets 80+, both signs it isn't a totally crap PSU. It definitely isn't the best of the best, but it will do just fine.

 

[eidairaman1]

if that PSU wasnt developed within the last 3 years Id say no, Also clean up the cable clutter

 

[stelly]

It's a Great Wall OEM power supply, and has been internally rated. That means it is not officially bronze rated by the 80PLUS foundation. Too many manufacturers do this, and it irritates me, because it's blatantly putting a label on a unit that shouldn't have it.

It's certification is currently pending, they've never had a particularly shining review (in fact they've only had 3 reviews years ago, and they were on their Andyson OEM units), and its a dual 20A rail psu, so it's actually a 480W PSU plus the 5v and 3v lines. 600W is a bold claim.

I'd run a single card on it, but not for very long. Consider a new PSU, especially if you intend on running dual cards.

My logic is that there's no way to get a quality psu for 27 E , make it 30 . I paid 139 E for this CoolerMaster Silent Pro M600 , back in 2009 , and it's not a great unit either . It didn't gave me problems , but it's never too late . Now , I might be wrong here , but newer cards require certain amperage on the pci-ex rails in order to work , regardless the wattage of the psu . So a old psu , even a 750 W one might not be able to run that card . I say this because it happened to me with an old Silverstone Strider ST75F , 750 W . HD6870 didn't wanted to start although a GTX295 ran without problems .

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Yes , it looks solid , pretty much like the first Titan , if i recall .

its the exact same cooler. Made out of Aluminum, copper, and acrylic.

 

[stelly]

The plug you need is currently plugged into your graphics card you have now. The extra 2 pins to make it an 8-pin are right in the middle of the last picture.



Just because it doesn't have Corsair or Seasonic stamped on the side doesn't mean it is a crap PSU. It will easily do what the OP needs with power to spare and is a decent unit.

It has Active PFC and meets 80+, both signs it isn't a totally crap PSU. It definitely isn't the best of the best, but it will do just fine.

https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx

 

[Ebo]

I would get a better PSU right away.

Ive burnt off LC-Power, Intertech and Energon PSU´s just for the fun of it on my testbench.

None of them have withstand 80% pressure in longer periods of time, they just go puff after a a few minutes under hard pressure.

I would look after a EVGA Supernova ver.2, because its rocksolid and made by Superflower and a really highend PSU that dosent take all your hardware out if it fails.

 

[newtekie1]

My logic is that there's no way to get a quality psu for 27 E , make it 30 . I paid 139 E for this CoolerMaster Silent Pro M600 , back in 2009 , and it's not a great unit either . It didn't gave me problems , but it's never too late . Now , I might be wrong here , but newer cards require certain decibels value on the pci-ex rails in order to work , regardless the wattage of the psu . So a old psu , even a 750 W one might not be able to run that card . I say this because it happened to me with an old Silverstone Strider ST75F , 750 W . HD6870 didn't wanted to start although a GTX295 ran without problems .

That is nice, but your logic is flawed. I can get a quality PSU that will run the OP's rig with a 970 for $25 USD(~22€).

https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx

You're point?

None of them have withstand 80% pressure in longer periods of time, they just go puff after a a few minutes under hard pressure.

Probably because they are only rated to ~80% for continuous. LC rates their units at peak, so the OP's unit is 600w peak. Its continuous rating is 480w I believe. But even still, the OP's rig won't come close to drawing that much power. His GPU is only going to pull at most 180w. And I doubt his CPU is overclocked since it is using stock cooling, so at most 100w there. And SSD, a HDD, and an Optical drive, so another 20w there. If the OP's rig ever breaks 300w, I'd be really surprised. His power supply can handle that easily.

 

[stelly]

@newtekie1 , i can get it for free , so my logic still stands . Second , that's the tiered psu list , i don't think that needs further explanations .

 

[stelly]

I think a point is missing . The amperage . The 970 requires 50 amps and i am not sure that the OPs psu can provide them . It's not about wattage only , which by the way , should be 500 W ( recommended ) .

 

[stelly]

That is nice, but your logic is flawed. I can get a quality PSU that will run the OP's rig with a 970 for $25 USD(~22€).



You're point?



Probably because they are only rated to ~80% for continuous. LC rates their units at peak, so the OP's unit is 600w peak. Its continuous rating is 480w I believe. But even still, the OP's rig won't come close to drawing that much power. His GPU is only going to pull at most 180w. And I doubt his CPU is overclocked since it is using stock cooling, so at most 100w there. And SSD, a HDD, and an Optical drive, so another 20w there. If the OP's rig ever breaks 300w, I'd be really surprised. His power supply can handle that easily.

LC Power have usually been made by Huntkey, (with some exceptions) - and Huntkey is Tier 5 brand . Now , Tier 5 - NOT RECOMMENDED. Replace ASAP if you have one.

 

[newtekie1]

@newtekie1 , i can get it for free , so my logic still stands . Second , that's the tiered psu list , i don't think that needs further explanations .

No, your logic doesn't. You don't need to spend over $100 just to get a decent PSU, period.

Yes, it does need explanation. LC isn't on the list, and the OEM of this unit isn't on the list. So, please, explain what the point of posting it here was.

I think a point is missing . The amperage . The 970 requires 50 amps and i am not sure that the OPs psu can provide them . It's not about wattage only , which by the way , should be 500 W ( recommended ) .

Requires 50A?!? LOL... It is about Watts, because you can derive Amps from Watts. The card uses 180w, thats 15A. Yes, the OP's PSU can provide that. A single rail of the OP's PSU can provide that.

LC Power have usually been made by Huntkey, (with some exceptions) - and Huntkey is Tier 5 brand . Now , Tier 5 - NOT RECOMMENDED. Replace ASAP if you have one.

This is an exception. The OEM has already been mentioned in the thread.

 

[stelly]

No, your logic doesn't. You don't need to spend over $100 just to get a decent PSU, period.

Yes, it does need explanation. LC isn't on the list, and the OEM of this unit isn't on the list. So, please, explain what the point of posting it here was.



Requires 50A?!? LOL... It is about Watts, because you can derive Amps from Watts. The card uses 180w, thats 15A. Yes, the OP's PSU can provide that. A single rail of the OP's PSU can provide that.



This is an exception. The OEM has already been mentioned in the thread.

No , it requires 2 x 25 amps . That's 50 . And the 970 has a 145 W TDP , not 180 . Of course they are not on the list as their psus are made by Huntkey . Huntkey is on the list . OEM or not , that PSU is weak , no offense , end of story .

P.S. According to the official website , the LC-Power 600 offers only 20A x 2 .

http://www.lc-power.de/index.php?id=488

So no , that's not 50A , it's 40 .

 

[Keullo-e]

Just because it doesn't have Corsair or Seasonic stamped on the side doesn't mean it is a crap PSU. It will easily do what the OP needs with power to spare and is a decent unit.

Most of Corsair's PSUs these days are also crap, filled with second-tier or even third-tier capacitors. The only Corsairs I would buy are AX/AXi/HXi series. Other good units are Super Flower Leadex and other which are based on that platform, like EVGA:s Supernova G/P series.

That LC-Crap is already a PSU which I wouldn't put on any of my PC's, and looks that it's on top of the case, gathering temperature nicely..

 

[newtekie1]

No , it requires 2 x 25 amps . That's 50 . And the 970 has a 145 W TDP , not 180 . Of course they are not on the list as their psus are made by Huntkey . Huntkey is on the list . OEM or not , that PSU is weak , no offense , end of story .

P.S. According to the official website , the LC-Power 600 offers only 20A x 2 .

http://www.lc-power.de/index.php?id=488

So no , that's not 50A , it's 40 .

I don't really think you should be in this discussion since the post makes it obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.

1. Where are you pulling 2x25 Amps from? Even if you go by the official nVidia Entire System requirement on the GTX970 product page, they only say 500w. That'd only be 42 Amps for the entire system*.
2. They only say 500w for the entire system to account for people using less than great power supplies. Because any decent 500w power supply can handle the minimal power draw of the 970.
3. I never said anything about the TDP. The ASUS GTX970 Strix, the card the OP is looking at, has a peak power consumption of 180w. And its average power consumption under load is 160w. These are actual power consumption numbers.
4. Why would you ever think a card with a 145w TDP would require 50A of power? You think a card that's consuming 600w** of power is only going to put out 145w of heat? There is literally no way that would ever happen. It isn't physically possible.
5. I've already pointed out to you that this unit is not made by Huntkey. Long before you posted, the OEM of the unit had already been established in the thread.
6. The PSU is more than fine for the task. You don't know what you are talking about, no offense, end of story.

*This is assuming the entire system is running off 12v. Obviously it isn't, the minor rails are used some. So in actuality, it would be less than 42 A from the 12v.
**600w is what 50A of power draw from the card would amount to. Yeah, I don't think there is a consumer card ever that consumed that much power by itself. Though it seems Stelly thinks 50A is a perfectly reasonable power consumption number for a GPU...

Most of Corsair's PSUs these days are also crap, filled with second-tier or even third-tier capacitors. The only Corsairs I would buy are AX/AXi/HXi series. Other good units are Super Flower Leadex and other which are based on that platform, like EVGA:s Supernova G/P series.

That LC-Crap is already a PSU which I wouldn't put on any of my PC's, and looks that it's on top of the case, gathering temperature nicely..

You mean exhausting temperature nicely. Odd, I have CX units powering much higher powered rigs with no issue with the PSU at the top! Must be miracles. Oh, or maybe it is just that you don't need $100+ Titanium rated units to power computers...

Just because a unit has lower quality caps on the secondary rails doesn't make the unit crap. Those rails are very lightly used in modern computers, so power savings can be made there by using lower quality caps. That is my entire point when saying a unit doesn't have to have Corsair or Seasonic stamped on it to be good. You could use any brand in that statement. My point is that people seem to think the PSU has to be all top tier, built as best as possible, and in turn as expensive as possible, to be good. No, that makes a unit great. But there are plenty of good units out there that are still inexpensive. The trick to making a good unit is knowing where to use the inexpensive components, and Corsair is great at that. Even on their CX units, they use quality components and build the 12v rail very well. And the 12v rail is the important rail, because almost everything in a modern computer runs off the 12v rail. The CX units for example use Japanese Nippon Chemi-con primary caps. That is why the CX series falls into the Tier 3 of power supplies. Not great units, but still solid units.

 

[X71200]

That is a crap looking PSU. Look into buying a new PSU and don't run that card with that unit, I'd suggest a HX750i which would settle you down for years to come.