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Razor... !
i hope it dont gets hard to take off....
 

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Razor... !
i hope it dont gets hard to take off....
i used a razor (blade) 10 minutes and done.

starts from the edges and don't push too hard, as i said it tooks me 10 minutes, But not all of us have the same patience and concentration, to someone else could take longer.
 
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i used a razor (blade) 10 minutes and done.

starts from the edges and don't push too hard, as i said it tooks me 10 minutes, But not all of us have the same patience and concentration, to someone else could take longer.
Thanks for the advice, its going to be my first time, im still afraid about damaging it, i dont want to screw mi little one...
how many times did you have done this ?

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how many times did you have done this ?
Four times.
The first time was my Cpu and the other three times to friends:
 

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so your current 3770K was the first one?
 

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yeap, and i didnt think twice when i did it:D
then ... i'll post my results when i do my mission,
thanks for your help and patience dude!

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then ... i'll post my results when i do my mission,
thanks for your help and patience dude!

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You are welcome.
that's why we are here.
 

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100% sure that copper does it.
And what's better than copper? Silver?

If yes, why we do not see any heat sink made of silver? Otherwise disregard this post.
 
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inb4 someone asks for diamond heatsink
 
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And what's better than copper? Silver?
I never said the opposite, i said that Copper is the best heat transfer, that's why my watercooling parts are Copper.

well Gold is better than Copper...:D
 
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I never said the opposite
That was a question. Not an affirmation. :confused:

Do not know what to say more... Time for me to leave, I think.
 

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i know that was a question and i've gave you an answer
Sorry, it did not seem to be for me. It was like you were deflecting an accusation or something like that.

Fatal misunderstanding from my side then. System crash.
 
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I think I'm going to preface this with the statement that application does matter considerably. To help illustrate this, I'd like to point to an excellent review by Hardware Secrets showing the performance of mayonnaise when used as thermal paste.
It's not always the thermal conductivity that counts, it's what you do with it.

And what's better than copper? Silver?

If yes, why we do not see any heat sink made of silver? Otherwise disregard this post.
High cost, very small market (if any), not a whole lot better than copper.

Here's a list of common materials. measured in W/(m K), followed by their price per pound. Higher numbers indicate better thermal conductivity.
Aluminum: 205, $0.83
Copper: 401, $2.87
Silver: 429, $252.64
Gold: 310, $17,357.42

With copper, we pay a little over three times the price of aluminum to gain about two times the performance, with silver, we'd end up paying 88 times the price for ~7% more performance.
If I'm not mistaken, gold is expensive for its electrical conductivity and resistance to corrosion. As an unintended side effect, computer cases would need to be very secure.

copper should transfer heat better then nickle
Indeed. Nickel only scores a 91 on the above chart. I think it's, again, used for resistance to corrosion.

inb4 someone asks for diamond heatsink
This made me chuckle because I was thinking the same thing.

Diamond is a very, very good thermal conductor. Time to continue the chart.

Diamond: 1000 $???.??

Pricing gets very hard here since the price of a diamond increases exponentially for its size, but an industrial grade diamond (one unfit for use as a gem, and as cheap as it gets), is about $12 a karat. One karat is about 0.007 ounces. That puts us at $1,714.29 an ounce. 16 ounces in a pound gives us a total of $27,428.57 for one pound of the cheapest diamonds one can source today.
I'd be pretty confident to guess that the process to manufacturer a bunch of random diamonds in to something that can be used as a heatsink is also very, very expensive, further adding to the unlikeliness of this ever happening.

Moral of the story, copper isn't cost efficient, but the cost is low enough for enthusiasts and applications where the increased performance is critical. Aluminum is good enough for average jobs.
I like analogies and I can't get this one out of my head, you can get a hamburger for $1 and it'll get the job done, but most people will spring for the $2 cheeseburger.

Sources: Google, mainly engineeringtoolbox.com for thermal conductivity, vincentmetals.com for metal prices, various Googling for diamond pricing.
Disclaimer: Prices are likely not accurate, given the volatility of the market and my laziness to find consistent and/or up-to-date sources. It should be a pretty good ballpark though.
 
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Diamond is a very, very good thermal conductor. Time to continue the chart.

Actually Diamond is almost pure Carbon. So an even better Thermal conductor, and ones that are being actively tested and looked into are Carbon, Nano-Tube Heatsinks made of graphene. You get the thermal transference of a diamond with the moldability of carbon fiber and the cost some where between copper and silver. Now if you scale this to mass production the cost would become lower then Copper.

Source: Just google Carbon heatsink or graphene heatsink.
 
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I also think that they could also make more than just the gates on the chips out of CNTs too.
 

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Well here is what I promise,
My Ivy delidded, it's not that hard by the way, I took me like 3 minutes, a lot of patience and the following tools:

· Razor Blade
· Isopropyl alcohol
· Tissues
· Intel's CPU plastic Cage [the one that comes with the CPU
· Arctic Cooling MX4 TIM
· CoolLaboratory liquid Ultra TIM


the official temps:
iddle: minimum temp 26/27C stable at 29
Load: minimum 49 stable at 52/55

this night I will make some tests… to see how it performs on prime 95 or kombustor, but let me tell ya guys that the processes is pretty intense, but It worths…!

Here are some photos!! :D
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Hope you enjoy !! :D
special thanks to @Knoxx29 for all the given support on this process! thanks my friend!
:pimp:


Regards,
 
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Well here is what I promise,
My Ivy delidded, it's not that hard by the way, I took me like 3 minutes, a lot of patience and the following tools:

· Razor Blade
· Isopropyl alcohol
· Tissues
· Intel's CPU plastic Cage [the one that comes with the CPU
· Arctic Cooling MX4 TIM
· CoolLaboratory liquid Ultra TIM


the official temps:
iddle: minimum temp 26/27C stable at 29
Load: minimum 49 stable at 52/55

this night I will make some tests… to see how it performs on prime 95 or kombustor, but let me tell ya guys that the processes is pretty intense, but It worths…!

Here are some photos!! :D
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Hope you enjoy !! :D
special thanks to @Knoxx29 for all the given support on this process! thanks my friend!
:pimp:


Regards,

Nice job!!! Congrats for the guts you had ;)
 

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Benchmark Scores well I've fried a 775' P4 12 years ago, that counts?
Thanks, I'm happy with my results, I know that I could be a better job, but this was just my first processor, I'm ready to delid more ! the first one is the hardest!!
I wish I could have more Camera abilities, but there is nothing I can do :rolleyes: ....i hope you enjoyed my bad quality photos! :D

:lovetpu:

Regards,
 
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:rolleyes: ....i hope you enjoyed my bad quality photos! :D

The photos were fine.

I spent too much on my i7-2600K, i5-4690K, i7-4790K, and FX-9590 to tear into them. The Intel CPUs seem to run at good temps and I don't see the need to de-lid them. The FX runs fairly cool with the included AIO.

I'll post a pic of the 2600K's clock and temps as an example. This CPU has been on a 900MHz. OC since I bought it new. (years ago, when they were brand new) I use an H-80 AIO with two Cougar fans in push/pull
to cool it.


2600K.JPG2600K-2.JPG


Stress Test Bench and Temps

2600K Stressed.JPG
 
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Well here is what I promise,
My Ivy delidded, it's not that hard by the way, I took me like 3 minutes, a lot of patience and the following tools:

· Razor Blade
· Isopropyl alcohol
· Tissues
· Intel's CPU plastic Cage [the one that comes with the CPU
· Arctic Cooling MX4 TIM
· CoolLaboratory liquid Ultra TIM


the official temps:
iddle: minimum temp 26/27C stable at 29
Load: minimum 49 stable at 52/55

this night I will make some tests… to see how it performs on prime 95 or kombustor, but let me tell ya guys that the processes is pretty intense, but It worths…!

Here are some photos!! :D
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Hope you enjoy !! :D
special thanks to @Knoxx29 for all the given support on this process! thanks my friend!
:pimp:


Regards,
Thanks for posting and all..
Y U Delid non-OCing chip?
PS: Vise + hammer + 2x4 =better.

Whoever said something about using diamond TIM on silicon....that's a bad,bad idea.
Diamond scratches/cuts glass.
 

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Benchmark Scores well I've fried a 775' P4 12 years ago, that counts?
interesting, how was the process on i7 2600K? as far as I know they are soldered, also AMD FX 9590 is soldered too..
also I would like to know which TIM did you used for the process?


Y U Delid non-OCing chip?
yes :D
PS: Vise + hammer + 2x4 =better.
I won't use a hammer on Processor experiments ever… a razor blade, pretty easy…

Whoever said something about using diamond TIM on silicon....that's a bad,bad idea.
i have used Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra on CPU's Die, Arctic MX4 on CPU's IHS

Regards,
 
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