Does the i7-5960x have sse4.1 ?

[GreiverBlade]

even a Athlon Neo X2 L325 at 1.6ghz + Radeon HD3200 integrated can handle PCSX2 emulation, i used a Zotac Zbox HD-AD01 as my living room PS2 replacement (i still own the PS2 and games but the ODD died) back in the time...(AKA: 4 years before today, roughly )

now ... well if you can afford it ... go for it (even if it's not a bright idea and you end paying the double or more of my main rig in my sys specs )

i guess my next PS2 replacement in my living room will be the SFF i ordered, which would already be overkill and just cost 500-550$(had to recheck prices ) less than the 5960X alone (and still pack all needed from the PSU to the OS and with a x360 controller + receiver in bundle)

the rest of the user that posted here ... are sadly ... right. no need for more debate.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Well, I'm unsubbing. I refuse to help people who simply want to waste their money without any thought about what they need. I said it once before and I'll say it yet again.

No need to be butthurt about it, just cause the OP says he's into emulation doesn't mean he doesn't use his PC for anything else that will utilise the full power of the CPU in question does it? jesus, people like to be offended at everything these days. If I had the money I would buy the best that I could as well just because. So many people fricking whinging in here man, just don't reply to the thread if it offends!

 

[hat]

Why is everyone hating on this guy for wanting a 5960x? I want one too, but I just can't afford one. That doesn't mean I'm gonna hate on madmax for it. Is it worth the money? Probably not, but it's the best, and I'm sure we'd all love to have one, if we could afford it.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Why is everyone hating on this guy for wanting a 5960x? I want one too, but I just can't afford one. That doesn't mean I'm gonna hate on madmax for it. Is it worth the money? Probably not, but it's the best, and I'm sure we'd all love to have one, if we could afford it.

not really hating him ... my post only reflect my thought ... no grief whatsoever ...

as for me even if i could afford one i would not want one ... why? technically useless for the usage i have is it the best? answer: no, not for my application range
ok i could technically take a HT i3 and have the same result and shave some cost on the CPU but the best for my application range was the 4690K when i bought it

 

[Aquinus]

Why is everyone hating on this guy for wanting a 5960x? I want one too, but I just can't afford one. That doesn't mean I'm gonna hate on madmax for it. Is it worth the money? Probably not, but it's the best, and I'm sure we'd all love to have one, if we could afford it.

...but you see, for single threaded applications it is not the best, performance wise. You're paying for a bunch of cores that you'll probably never use. It's one of those things where no one needs it but Intel feels that they can get away with putting a 1k USD price tag on it. Buying it only tells Intel that they can get away with it. So between thinking that its economically to tell Intel than and the simple fact that what the OP is doing will most likely rather enjoy more clock cycles, not more cores, then it boils down to what the OP wants.

There is no discussion if the OP already wants a 5960X and is dead set on it, that's the point. It's not optimal but, if the OP wants to throw money to the wind, so be it. I just can't be part of that because it rubs me the wrong way.

Think about it, for the cost of the CPU, you could go with a 5820k, save 600 dollars... that's almost a GTX 980 Ti!! Weight the cost, it's a lot of money for nothing useful. Do yourself a favor, forget the EE chip and dedicate some of those funds to something more important that can actually get you tangible gains, like a better GPU and I don't think you'll be wanting that 5870 in a new machine.

When I first decided to do my upgrade I was going to get a 3960X instead of the 3820 but, I wouldn't have been able to get the SSDs or the second 6870. Simple fact is that money can be spent somewhere else in the machine.

I'm not angry because the OP wants to spend money on his computer, I'm pissed because it seems that he wants to wasteful buy the product with the biggest price tag on the fallacy that it's better for all tasks. That's all.

 

[hat]

Well, from what I see the 5820k and 5960x are roughly capable of reaching about the same clock speeds, depending on how well you did in the silicon lottery. How could the 5960x perform worse in single threaded apps?

About the extreme price... there's always going to be that. There will always be some insane, top of the line product that costs an exorbitant about of money, not just in the computer world, but in just about everything. $1000 extreme edition processors have been around since I first stepped into the PC enthusiast world. It is what it is, it's their extreme top of the line product, which they charge an extreme top of the line price for. Sure you don't need a $1k processor and would probably be happy with the $300 processor (4970k?) but sometimes people like to reach for that top tier item, whether it's just because they can (have the money) or they saved for it or whatever.

 

[Aquinus]

Well, from what I see the 5820k and 5960x are roughly capable of reaching about the same clock speeds, depending on how well you did in the silicon lottery. How could the 5960x perform worse in single threaded apps?

About the extreme price... there's always going to be that. There will always be some insane, top of the line product that costs an exorbitant about of money, not just in the computer world, but in just about everything. $1000 extreme edition processors have been around since I first stepped into the PC enthusiast world. It is what it is, it's their extreme top of the line product, which they charge an extreme top of the line price for. Sure you don't need a $1k processor and would probably be happy with the $300 processor (4970k?) but sometimes people like to reach for that top tier item, whether it's just because they can (have the money) or they saved for it or whatever.

Then why are we here talking about it when the OP had made up his mind when he first posted? I simply asked why he needed it and he couldn't answer. That's why I unsubbed which I will be doing again because there isn't much point to this thread.

I don't hate the op. The simple fact is that if you need to ask if a 5960x would be helpful for you, it probably won't be. That's reason enough to save 400 or 600 USD because that's an entire video card. I've said all I am, I'm going to unsub and ignore replies to this thread now because there isn't much point to debating. I can't stop people from making wasteful decisions, I can only hope they see the light after doing a little bit of research.

 

[alucasa]

I don't see a problem with this thread because I don't get the OP's motive. If he has the money to burn, he is within his right to purchase what he deems worthy.

I also don't get why some are so hell-bent on which GPU they have and why they have to buy those hellishly expensive GPU. I personally see anything above x60 in Nvidia line as total waste of money.

 

[johnspack]

I need threads too, but you don't have to spend a fortune. 75us gets you this:

 

[dr emulator (madmax)]

come on guys the thread is getting derailed


i'll just say this
it's not about cash for me
it's not about bragging rights (no-one i know would gad what's in the case, they'd probably be more interested in what graphics card i had, or that the case has pretty lights )

i don't have any dependants (apart from an old cat )
i still live at my parents (for now anyway ) (it's cheaper)

and i am getting one, that's not what i asked about

the chips instruction set isn't the most important thing, but it counts

i'll be running different virtual machines, plus various software new and old

i understand that the i7 5920 would do, but i'm buying a machine that hopefully will keep me happy for the next 5 years, so if i bought the cheaper processor (like i did with my i7 920) i'd always think i wonder what the extreme one would be like

so their you have it, it's 3 am and i'm half dead so none of this is likely to make any sense

 

[dr emulator (madmax)]

Then why are we here talking about it when the OP had made up his mind when he first posted? I simply asked why he needed it and he couldn't answer. That's why I unsubbed which I will be doing again because there isn't much point to this thread.

I don't hate the op. The simple fact is that if you need to ask if a 5960x would be helpful for you, it probably won't be. That's reason enough to save 400 or 600 USD because that's an entire video card. I've said all I am, I'm going to unsub and ignore replies to this thread now because there isn't much point to debating. I can't stop people from making wasteful decisions, I can only hope they see the light after doing a little bit of research.

sorry if i gave you that impression but i was simply asking owners of this cpu if it had that set of instructions, as i couldn't find the info myself, and yes i did do alot of research into what i wanted from the chip and had only seen the cpu-z picture, which didn't really say

anyways guys and gals i'm off back to bed all

 

[SaltyFish]

I think what @Aquinus and others are trying to say is that you're paying a huge premium for the overclocking features on the 5960X, not any major performance gain. The 5930K and 5820K aren't that far behind in performance.. even with Haswell-E's crazy segmentation (5960X being a lower clocked 8-core and 5820K having reduced PCIe lanes). You haven't mentioned any plans for overclocking. If you're planning on doing some serious overclocking, that's what the purpose of the 5960X is for. The 5930K and 5820K, being K processors, still allow some overclocking (multiplier only) while providing more than enough performance for most tasks. If you don't plan on overclocking the gills out of your CPU, you won't gain much from moving up to the 5960X. Whether Haswell-E is optimal for your needs is another thing but even if it isn't, there's always the e-Peen reason.

It's understandable if you want to get the fanciest CPU just to kill that upgrade itch and/or buyer's remorse. Short of moving to a new platform, you'll never have to worry about potentially better CPU performance because you already have the top-of-the-line. Although in your case, the eventual(?) Broadwell-E might say otherwise though. If that is a major factor for CPU choice, you're better off waiting for Broadwell-E's 6970X or whatever it'll be called to be released.

just out of curiosity does anyone know how long intel plans on selling these monsters, and most importantly how long the socket and mother boards will be available ?

Considering Ivy Bridge-E CPUs can still be found at retail today, I'm guessing Haswell-E will have a similar availability. The motherboards, particularly the higher-end ones, tend to go a bit quicker in my experience.

 

[johnspack]

Bah, if I had the money to burn, I'd play with a 5960x, why not? Just like I'll be waiting to see what Skylake-e can do. That's really the one I want to see.... But regardless, my hex core cpu doesn't run games any slower than my quads did.
And I can run 2 quad vms at the same time now. It all depends on what you want, need, and what you can afford. If he wants a multi-core monster, what's it going to hurt?

 

[GreiverBlade]

come on guys the thread is getting derailed

nope, you made it goes like that ... ok the 2 "peace don't hate him" did help you ...a bit ... (joking)

well ...

i understand that the i7 5820K would do, but i'm buying a machine that hopefully will keep me happy for the next 5 years

a 5820K would last the same amount of time that a 5960X would ... even a 5830K would be a tad more reasonable.... the 5960X is just a ... fraud from intel : totally not worth the premium you pay and not even bundled with Vaseline... wait ... w/e


my 14 yrs old Athlon XP rig with a Xi X1950GT super AGP can still run PCSX2 without any problems (except on SMTN ... ) tho it would run better on my main rig ... or if i decided to rebuild a S775 setup with the E8500,the 650i ultra mobo and either a 8800 Ultra or a 3870.

your question was about SSE4.1? then even a 14yrs old cpu can run the emu you want, but he has only SSE (no revision)

you want to spend money then spend money

 

[n-ster]

There's no point in being stubborn just to be stubborn. I know what it is to really just want that top-end because you simply want it and can, just to use it for fun. I know what it is to have excess money because of saving up living with the parents. But honestly, I regret always going for SOME of the high-end stuff I don't need (while others I was happy with even though I didn't use them), you'll miss that money very quickly. It's one thing if money is not an issue, but IT IS by your own admission, or you'd have a decent condo and living on your own. What's your salary? 15£/hr? The difference between a 5820k and 5960x is 480£ at least at overclockers.co.uk, so that's 32 hours. Would you personally be willing to spend 32 hours of doing overtime at work to have the 5960x "just because you can" even though at best you won't feel the difference? Personally, to me, it's worth about 2-4 hours at most, and mostly just for fun and bragging rights.

I'll be honest though, I'm a sucker for great technology even though I don't need it, so I'm not against you spending 2000+£ on this new build, just the 5960x is not the way to spend it. Get an NVMe Intel 750, 32GB or even 64GB of RAM to have fun with RAMDisks, get a supercool WC setup or go for a quiet build with a SilverStone FT05, get the MSI golden edition of the GTX 970, buy a NIC with multiple gigabit ports and link aggragation to have amazing LAN transfers, buy a 400$ chair, a 200$ keyboard, a 150$ mouse. You'll be way more satisfied with your build with some of these changes I think, rather than a change in your CPU that you won't be able to actually witness.

You want to have fun with this build? I am ready to help, but the 5960x's only reason of existance for you is bragging rights, which you claim it's not about.

come on guys the thread is getting derailed


i'll just say this
it's not about cash for me
it's not about bragging rights (no-one i know would gad what's in the case, they'd probably be more interested in what graphics card i had, or that the case has pretty lights )
i don't have any dependants (apart from an old cat )
I still live at my parents (for now anyway ) (it's cheaper)

and i am getting one, that's not what i asked about

the chips instruction set isn't the most important thing, but it counts

i'll be running different virtual machines, plus various software new and old

i understand that the i7 5820 would do, but i'm buying a machine that hopefully will keep me happy for the next 5 years, so if i bought the cheaper processor (like i did with my i7 920) i'd always think i wonder what the extreme one would be like

so their you have it, it's 3 am and i'm half dead so none of this is likely to make any sense