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Move along folks, nothing to see here.

Its Microsofts one time of the year when they crawl out from that XBOX shaped rock they've been hiding under for more than a decade with party hats, party poppers, balloons, trumpets and a massive foam glove with #PCMASTERRACE printed on it to let off some pent up steam, shout a few words about what they are doing that's great for the PC Platform/PC Gamers then go crawling back underneath their rock and do absolutely nothing until around the same time next year when the season is right and they come out of hibernation to perform the same part act and scream the same bullshit to the moon again before going back into hiding hibernation.


Anything Microsoft says in regards to PC gaming should be taken with a C-130 packed so tight with salt, even the pilots & crew have shrivelled up into stickmen.


I disagree. I think their reasoning is different. Before, they did token support of Windows as a way to sell copies of Windows, but never at the risk of damaging their Xbox brand. The switchover here is that Microsoft is now so twisted around, they're trying to use the popularity of PC gaming to prop up their nearly terminally damaged Xbox brand.

Look.

http://www.gamespot.com/videos/gs-news-update-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-first-month/2300-6429698/

Research group Superdata today released its digital sales report for January 2016, revealing that Square Enix's Rise of the Tomb Raider sold nearly three times more copies on PC than on Xbox One.

That's right. Xbox One sold less copies of Rise of the Tomb Raider, even after Fallout 4's fallout was over than the PC version.

Because everyone is buying the game on PC. Microsoft needs to make Xbox on PC work if they hope to keep Xbox relevant.
 

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I wouldn't read too far into that. Fallout 4 launching on the same day trashed Rise of Tomb Raider sales on Xbox One. Additionally, it isn't clear what the relationship is here between Square Enix and Microsoft. There had to be some kind of deal for Xbox to gain temporary exclusivity but we don't know how invested Microsoft is in Rise of the Tomb Raider. We also don't know if the Windows Store version of the title was part of that arrangement.


Let's assume that, given a platform, the number of reviewers is more or less even. Windows Store version has 123 reviews; Steam has 8955 reviews. It's pretty safe to assume that the bulk of the PC sales did not come from the Windows Store. Microsoft said they are pleased with the sales figures so it is very possible Microsoft is blissfully unaware how poor Xbox and Windows Store numbers were compared to Steam.

Square Enix, on the other hand, would be very aware of how poorly Microsoft performed. I think it's safe to assume Square Enix won't agree to another time-limited release with Microsoft.
 
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http://www.gamespot.com/videos/gs-news-update-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-first-month/2300-6429698/

That's right. Xbox One sold less copies of Rise of the Tomb Raider, even after Fallout 4's fallout was over than the PC version.

Because everyone is buying the game on PC. Microsoft needs to make Xbox on PC work if they hope to keep Xbox relevant.
They chose a really bad date to launch Rise of TR, and that affected the sales as a whole. Once the F4 chaos was over, TR came out on PC. And people basically chose the better platform. Plus there are more people who have only a PC as a gaming platform.
There had to be some kind of deal for Xbox to gain temporary exclusivity
Yeah and its called "mucho dinero"
 
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Deep interaction with the hardware is what games is about and what MS is telling us that DX12 will do , yet they come with this retard app store that kill games before its birth .... what a bunch of idiots , another reason to not buy anything from ms .
 
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I don't get it, are developers so retarded they would spend time programming special castrated versions of their games so they could be sold in shitty Microsoft store?
 
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I don't get it, are developers so retarded they would spend time programming special castrated versions of their games so they could be sold in shitty Microsoft store?
They aren't retarded, they're getting paid for that. Pay me 30 euro/hour and I'll make you lick bananas and say "meow" while you sit in a tree. I have some experience on that. Their bosses are retarded.
 

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I don't get it, are developers so retarded they would spend time programming special castrated versions of their games so they could be sold in shitty Microsoft store?

The video game industry is cut-throat for the most part. There are tens of billions of dollars up for grabs and no shortage of publishers willing to do whatever it takes to get a slice of that pie. There's plenty of blame to spread around but I think the lion's share of that blame goes to publishers and to us the gamers. The publishers because they push developers to rush games and we end up with unfinished buggy sometimes broken-ass games and us the gamers who having been burned over and over by a publisher's offerings go right on and pre-order or buy the next game right away anyway. It's a loop that pretty much guarantees the status quo. Some developers are lazy minded warts that try to coast on their rep though.
 
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Microsoft hate PC Gamers!

They see us as a threat to their Console cash-cow, probably blame us for the XBox One not doing as well as expected.

For the past decade they have been trying to hold back PC Game development with their DX API monopoly, DX11 was junk on the day it was released and it was junk for the decade they never updated it.

One could argue "but what about DX12"
Thanks to AMD Microsoft had no choice, had they not reacted to Mantle they would have lost their DX API Monopoly entirely, they would have lost all control of PC Gaming.
What they are doing here is trying to control it in another way, and then gimp the crap out of it.

Ever wondered why the XBox One originally ran on DX11?
That Mantle API was originally meant to be bundled with AMD XBox One hardware, but it had strings attached, that it would also become DX12, those were AMD's Terms, MS refused so they never got the API.
AMD released it for Desktop anyway knowing it would force MS to react.

The argument against that is "But MS said they started DX12 long before Mantle, they worked with Nvidia on it"

Think about that, really?

Are they saying AMD can get a working low level API out before Microsoft and Nvidia combined?
And even if it was true why then did AMD have big name developers queuing up behind AMD in support of something they say they had wanted for years with Microsoft refusing?

AMD made an enemy of Microsoft for not falling into line, Nvidia just thought they would suck up to MS for day to join them in having a stab at AMD.

And before you might say "you're just an AMD fanboi" My GPU is a GTX 970, my CPU is a 4690K

Oh and of course Ashes runs better on AMD, the API its running on (DX12) was originally designed for GCN.

 
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I don't like Microsoft one bit, but the wall of text you produced (which I mostly skipped) is classical case of IT chemtrails. 0/10.
 
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I don't like Microsoft one bit, but the wall of text you produced (which I mostly skipped) is classical case of IT chemtrails. 0/10.

"which I mostly skipped"

so you call it a tinfoil conspiracy without even reading it. well done.
 
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I have to say I would not have an issue buying this game from their store. However, I also have not payed full price for a game in a long time so I will not be buying it right away anyways. Also, for the one who claimed a Quantum Break sales breakdown of 99% 1%, if you preorder that game now on Xbox One, you will receive a free copy for Windows 10 with your purchase.

XBox One is not dead nor is it in any danger of dying. Also, if Microsoft can fix these issues, that will make a big difference but, we will see. Oh, and Steam is a walled garden, good luck with those who think otherwise. Don't believe me? Try taking your game purchases off of steam? What's that you say, you can't? Exactly.
 
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Its very easy to say "your wrong" and not offer up an explanation, anyone can do that... i can accept i am wrong but before considering that i'm interested in an intelligent argument as to why.
Any two word opposition is just valueless noise
 

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Oh, and Steam is a walled garden, good luck with those who think otherwise.

In a sense, but that's not what is meant by the term. All the games on all the platforms, and even the DRM-free versions you can buy from GOG and play directly from your desktop (unless you download the Linux-enabled versions) require Windows.

By "walled garden", what is referred to is the OS, which can easily be used to prohibit any Windows-required game from running unless it is purchased from and run within the Windows Store.

Is it likely? No (for many reasons, including legal ramifications). Is MS trustworty? No. But, is it out of the realm of possibility, with their long history of shady shenanigans? Nope, not at all.
 
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"which I mostly skipped"

so you call it a tinfoil conspiracy without even reading it. well done.
The Government of the USA has openly admitted to Chemtrails....just saying .....poor example
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I don't like Microsoft one bit, but the wall of text you produced (which I mostly skipped) is classical case of IT chemtrails. 0/10.

OFFTOPIC:
The Government of the USA has openly admitted to Chemtrails....just saying .....poor example
 
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The question here is WHY? Why are they intentionally crippling games in WSG?? They do know that if a game cannot Cross/SLI - VSYNC and full screen, is a no brainer that people will go to another store.
Then, why all this stupid drama?
 
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It is that last one, "no modding," that I dislike. It the only reason I game on PC.

But yeah, they manage to out do GFWL. At least I could still put SweetFX on top of those without issue and downsample.
 

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Have you read what they said in damage controle mode? M$ supports vsync and sli/xfire, but the devs have to support it... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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