I7-6700 or I7-6700K for $95 more? (Mini ITX build)

[RodoGodo19]

Can you wait for broadwell-e?

well, i can wait 2 months, not more than that ;(

 

[cdawall]

well, i can wait 2 months, not more than that ;(

They estimate release to be Q2. If you want an I7 I vote go all the way and go X99 or wait for broadwell-e. A 5820K, X99 and DDR4 runs the same cost as a 6700K.

 

[RodoGodo19]

i already have a mini itx phanteks case

and a corsair ax860

 

[cdawall]

i already have a mini itx phanteks case

and a corsair ax860

http://www.microcenter.com/product/448604/X99E-ITX-AC_LGA_2011-3_ITX_Intel_Motherboard?ob=1

I know I had a specific motherboard in mind when I suggested X99.

 

[EarthDog]

Ironically, I happen to have two computers with Core i5's of the same generation one with GTX 970 other with 980ti in the house. Yeah, they both pretty much hit 100%, not all the time but pretty close, doesn't stop the 980ti from thrashing the 970 by pretty much 2x at 1440p.

+1

http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html

Notice how there isn't a single FPS drop from 3770K to 3570K?

 

[RodoGodo19]

http://www.microcenter.com/product/448604/X99E-ITX-AC_LGA_2011-3_ITX_Intel_Motherboard?ob=1

I know I had a specific motherboard in mind when I suggested X99.

honestly, i don't like it's design, i want something cool too... jeje

 

[Zakin]

+1

http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html

Notice how there isn't a single FPS drop from 3770K to 3570K?

Funny thing is the GTX 970 has the 3570k and the 980ti is in a 3470 PC. We just haven't seen the need to rebuild the other half of the weaker one until Broadwell-E most likely, told my roommate I would probably get him a 6 core i7 then if he was up for it.

Irony is the fact that the Skylake i5s have quite a bit of IPC jump since then, and that's what he is saying would be a bottleneck.

 

[cdawall]

honestly, i don't like it's design, i want something cool too... jeje

It is super plain so I could see that. Nothing wrong with Z170 and a 6600K/6700K that's for sure.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/intel...k-review-gaming-benchmarks-performance-page-4

 

[GhostRyder]

guys...
my father just told that he will give me $100 as a gift to finish my PC.
I want to keep this computer for 3-4-5 years, so will be nice to have 4Ghz over the non-K version (3.4ghz).
In the future, if there is a demanding game who requires more CPU (maybe a new skylake refresh or another model will be launched in 2017-2018) and my CPU is not enough (which i doubt) i don't have to sell the i5 (if i buy it) i just will need to OC the i7 k version.
is it a good plan or not?.

i have had i5 all my live, i just want to have something different too, to know how an i7 feels.
Besides, the 3000mhz memory ram will be good too. in a few years this investment will worth it and i don't have to sell parts to buy others to upgrade my pc.

what do you think?
(by the way my GPU will be GTX980ti Hybrid)

Its the same thing, i5 and i7 are the same chips in the end of the day with the only difference being Hyper Threading. In gaming, your not going to see any real difference between them and even in daily usage (This is from personal experience). The only times I notice I am on an i5 or i7 is when video encoding is involved or similar programs that use everything thrown at them.

honestly, i don't like it's design, i want something cool too... jeje

If you really want a i7, I agree to get that board and chip as that will actually be more beneficial at the end of the day. If you want to spend the money on an i7, spend it on the 5820K and the Asrock X99 ITX board and you will actually see some benefits in games especially ones that are heavily multi-threaded. Otherwise, I would recommend just getting the i5 over the i7.

 

[EarthDog]

Dude...Those are all at different clock speeds...Did you even read the video text. The overclocks are even different but notice how close they are when the i5 6600K is at 4.5 and the i7 6700k is at 4.6...

+1... another link that proves our point.

There are a rare few titles that benefit from more than 4 cores... and that is because of the GAME, not the GPU being used. If you put a GTX 960 on it, you would still see the same differences. It has nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the GPU!!!

Look at Witcher 3... same FPS...
GTAV - Massive world and CPU heavy so you see a difference...
FC4 results are off there. They show the same here between 4c and 4c/8t (i5 v i7): http://www.techspot.com/review/917-far-cry-4-benchmarks/page5.html

 

[cdawall]

+1... another link that proves our point.

There are a rare few titles that benefit from more than 4 cores... and that is because of the GAME, not the GPU being used. If you put a GTX 960 on it, you would still see the same differences. It has nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the GPU!!!

Considering the pentium G3258 is a completely viable gaming chip that competes easily with the 4th gens...maybe number of cores in poorly multithreaded apps doesnt matter.

 

[Vayra86]

Dragging the thread back on topic and hoping to keep it there:

for gaming: i5 6600K or i7 6700K
for workstation applications or when you want to run more than 2 GPU's: X99 platform and E processor (you get more PCIE lanes)

If you can spare the cash for the i7, by all means. Especially if you are interested in how it compares to the i5. You can however consider putting the extra 100 bucks in other stuff like perhaps an additional SSD for storage, or some nice KB/mouse, and for gaming purposes the i5 would be just as fine.

The only gain of an i7 over i5 is HT, and games don't really benefit from that. I would NOT recommend going Intel-E because the 6 core processors have lower clocks, and games like a fast core over more cores. The 6600K/6700K will likely clock higher, and therefore be better for gaming.

 

[cdawall]

The only gain of an i7 over i5 is HT, and games don't really benefit from that. I would NOT recommend going Intel-E because the 6 core processors have lower clocks, and games like a fast core over more cores. The 6600K/6700K will likely clock higher, and therefore be better for gaming.

Yep most of the 5xx0's top out right around 4.4-4.6ghz on a normal cooler. The added IPC improvements on the 6x00's are pretty nice for that, but I do enjoy the very high likelihood that broadwell-e will hit x99.

 

[RodoGodo19]

damn, right now the i7-non K is at $350

 

[Tatty_Two]

We seem to be back on topic now the distraction appears to have moved on...... @little cat ...... feel free to contribute, maybe calm and slow down a little, please don't make like 20 posts then delete them all, I can read them, all you are doing is confirming what some members are saying, I am sure you have much to contribute, chill a bit, make some friends then discuss.

At least you saved me having to delete them all

 

[GhostRyder]

Dragging the thread back on topic and hoping to keep it there:
for gaming: i5 6600K or i7 6700K
for workstation applications or when you want to run more than 2 GPU's: X99 platform and E processor (you get more PCIE lanes)
If you can spare the cash for the i7, by all means. Especially if you are interested in how it compares to the i5. You can however consider putting the extra 100 bucks in other stuff like perhaps an additional SSD for storage, or some nice KB/mouse, and for gaming purposes the i5 would be just as fine.
The only gain of an i7 over i5 is HT, and games don't really benefit from that. I would NOT recommend going Intel-E because the 6 core processors have lower clocks, and games like a fast core over more cores. The 6600K/6700K will likely clock higher, and therefore be better for gaming.

Yep most of the 5xx0's top out right around 4.4-4.6ghz on a normal cooler. The added IPC improvements on the 6x00's are pretty nice for that, but I do enjoy the very high likelihood that broadwell-e will hit x99.

Yea, but that's all you really need in the end for speed. I just think if your going to spend the money on an i7 for gaming, its better to just go all in and get the 6 cores instead of spending a similar amount on just getting Hyper Threading. In the end I think the i5 is the better choice.

damn, right now the i7-non K is at $350

Yea that's probably not a great investment at that price.

In my opinion, you should just get the i5 6600K and play with some overclocking. Otherwise if you really want an i7, spend a tiny bit more and get a 5820K so your getting more bang from the machine.

 

[HammerON]

We seem to be back on topic now the distraction appears to have moved on...... @little cat ...... feel free to contribute, maybe calm and slow down a little, please don't make like 20 posts then delete them all, I can read them, all you are doing is confirming what some members are saying, I am sure you have much to contribute, chill a bit, make some friends then discuss.

At least you saved me having to delete them all

He deleted his posts and I just cleaned up all the other ones that members quoted, responded to or mentioned his posts. Quite the chore

 

[Vayra86]

 

[RodoGodo19]

right now the i7-6700 non-K is at $314.99 on Amazon, i just bought it, i hope to receive it on Mar 11 - Mar 16.
Very good price.
i will buy the B150I motherboard and the 16GB 2133 memory ram.
You were right, i don't need to spend a lot of money to have the overclocking feature if i won't use it anyway. The non-K is very good for a few years with a GTX980TI HYBRID.

 

[Vayra86]

Good choice, cpu/gpu are well balanced that way so I'm sure you'll enjoy it

 

[RejZoR]

K has higher clocks out of the box so if you don't plan on overclocking, certainly K. 4.2 GHz turbo is pretty decent clock. I mean, most get max 4.7 GHz when overclocking, so that's hardly an OC worth mentioning.

 

[Kanan]

Yep, the clocks of the non-K version are pretty low compared to the K version. I guess the K version will do 1+ year longer.