• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Video memory beyond limit?

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop
Joined
Feb 27, 2006
Messages
18,934 (2.85/day)
Location
Piteå
System Name Black MC in Tokyo
Processor Ryzen 5 5600
Motherboard Asrock B450M-HDV
Cooling Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
Memory 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz
Video Card(s) XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319
Storage Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB
Display(s) Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s) Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard
Power Supply Corsair RM850x v3
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown
VR HMD Acer Mixed Reality Headset
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Rimworld 4K ready!
Actually, technically,

1280x720=720p
1366x768=768p

But the two tend to just be used interchangeably as 720p. For example, media generally calls 1280x720 720p, so if you go to youtube or netflix and stream something at 720p it is 1280x720. In the console world, 720p is 1280x720 as well. However, TV manufacturers call TVs with 1366x768 panels 720p. I think this is mainly because they don't really make true 720p LCD panels anymore. Funny thing, they used to market TVs with 1366x768 panels at 1080i...

Which is why we all should use sizes in inches and pixels x pixels to describe monitors.
 
Joined
Jan 12, 2010
Messages
1,526 (0.29/day)
System Name Custom Built
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus PRIME A520M-A
Cooling Stock heatsink/fan
Memory 16GB 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2400MHz
Video Card(s) MSI 1050Ti 4GB
Storage KINGSTON SNVS250G 256GB M.2 + 2 data disks
Display(s) Dell S2421NX
Case Aerocool CS103
Audio Device(s) Realtek
Power Supply Seasonic M12II-520 EVO
Mouse Logitech MX Master 2S
Keyboard Logitech
Software Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
OK, I put the fan back but plugged directly to the PSU +5V line (after cutting off the useless floppy connector) it's way less noisy and the card runs cooler. So I will try to overclock it again.
@Frick do you mean FPS tests? or some game-based benchmark, the games I have don't have benchmark tools AFAIK,
Anyway I am afraid my CPU will still prevent any performance gain, in which case I would revert it :)

Yes my resolution is 1366x768.
 
Joined
Dec 31, 2009
Messages
19,366 (3.70/day)
Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
Actually, technically,

1280x720=720p
1366x768=768p

But the two tend to just be used interchangeably as 720p. For example, media generally calls 1280x720 720p, so if you go to youtube or netflix and stream something at 720p it is 1280x720. In the console world, 720p is 1280x720 as well. However, TV manufacturers call TVs with 1366x768 panels 720p. I think this is mainly because they don't really make true 720p LCD panels anymore. Funny thing, they used to market TVs with 1366x768 panels at 1080i...
oops, that is absolutely correct.

They are also different because of two different standards.
 

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer
Joined
Aug 22, 2015
Messages
3,517 (1.11/day)
Location
Europe
System Name eazen corp | Xentronon 7.2
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X // PBO max.
Motherboard Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus
Cooling Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 w/ AM4 kit // 3x Corsair AF140L case fans (2 in, 1 out)
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16 GB DDR4 3600 @ 3800, CL16-19-19-39-58-1T, 1.4 V
Video Card(s) Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti modded to MATRIX // 2000-2100 MHz Core / 1938 MHz G6
Storage Silicon Power P34A80 1TB NVME/Samsung SSD 830 128GB&850 Evo 500GB&F3 1TB 7200RPM/Seagate 2TB 5900RPM
Display(s) Samsung 27" Curved FS2 HDR QLED 1440p/144Hz&27" iiyama TN LED 1080p/120Hz / Samsung 40" IPS 1080p TV
Case Corsair Carbide 600C
Audio Device(s) HyperX Cloud Orbit S / Creative SB X AE-5 @ Logitech Z906 / Sony HD AVR @PC & TV @ Teufel Theater 80
Power Supply EVGA 650 GQ
Mouse Logitech G700 @ Steelseries DeX // Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
Keyboard Corsair K70 LUX RGB /w Cherry MX Brown switches
VR HMD Still nope
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 15 095 Time Spy | P29 079 Firestrike | P35 628 3DM11 | X67 508 3DM Vantage Extreme
My recommendation to you is, get yourself a 750 Ti or 950 first. Then after some while upgrade the CPU to a i5 like 2500K (or change mainboard too and get something newer, but also more expensive). PSU is the 3rd thing I'd upgrade, but I'd try the system with that generic PSU first, if it's halfway trustworthy (maybe you can post pics of it? Sticker on the side).
 

OneMoar

There is Always Moar
Joined
Apr 9, 2010
Messages
8,746 (1.70/day)
Location
Rochester area
System Name RPC MK2.5
Processor Ryzen 5800x
Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Pro V2
Cooling Enermax ETX-T50RGB
Memory CL16 BL2K16G36C16U4RL 3600 1:1 micron e-die
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE RTX 3070 Ti GAMING OC
Storage ADATA SX8200PRO NVME 512GB, Intel 545s 500GBSSD, ADATA SU800 SSD, 3TB Spinner
Display(s) LG Ultra Gear 32 1440p 165hz Dell 1440p 75hz
Case Phanteks P300 /w 300A front panel conversion
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply SeaSonic Focus+ Platinum 750W
Mouse Kone burst Pro
Keyboard EVGA Z15
Software Windows 11 +startisallback
you could clock that card 150% over stock and it would still be relatively useless
replace it
 

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop
Joined
Feb 27, 2006
Messages
18,934 (2.85/day)
Location
Piteå
System Name Black MC in Tokyo
Processor Ryzen 5 5600
Motherboard Asrock B450M-HDV
Cooling Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
Memory 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz
Video Card(s) XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319
Storage Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB
Display(s) Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s) Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard
Power Supply Corsair RM850x v3
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown
VR HMD Acer Mixed Reality Headset
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Rimworld 4K ready!
you could clock that card 150% over stock and it would still be relatively useless
replace it

Much like you. :laugh: (and to be fair, me)

Bit seriously, just assuming people have money to blow is pretty useless.
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2015
Messages
2,993 (0.96/day)
Location
Argentina
System Name Ciel
Processor AMD Ryzen R5 5600X
Motherboard Asus Tuf Gaming B550 Plus
Cooling ID-Cooling 224-XT Basic
Memory 2x 16GB Kingston Fury 3600MHz@3933MHz
Video Card(s) Gainward Ghost 3060 Ti 8GB + Sapphire Pulse RX 6600 8GB
Storage NVMe Kingston KC3000 2TB + NVMe Toshiba KBG40ZNT256G + HDD WD 4TB
Display(s) AOC Q27G3XMN + Samsung S22F350
Case Cougar MX410 Mesh-G
Audio Device(s) Kingston HyperX Cloud Stinger Core 7.1 Wireless PC
Power Supply Aerocool KCAS-500W
Mouse EVGA X15
Keyboard VSG Alnilam
Software Windows 11
What better to learn to overclock than that card?
 

OneMoar

There is Always Moar
Joined
Apr 9, 2010
Messages
8,746 (1.70/day)
Location
Rochester area
System Name RPC MK2.5
Processor Ryzen 5800x
Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Pro V2
Cooling Enermax ETX-T50RGB
Memory CL16 BL2K16G36C16U4RL 3600 1:1 micron e-die
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE RTX 3070 Ti GAMING OC
Storage ADATA SX8200PRO NVME 512GB, Intel 545s 500GBSSD, ADATA SU800 SSD, 3TB Spinner
Display(s) LG Ultra Gear 32 1440p 165hz Dell 1440p 75hz
Case Phanteks P300 /w 300A front panel conversion
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply SeaSonic Focus+ Platinum 750W
Mouse Kone burst Pro
Keyboard EVGA Z15
Software Windows 11 +startisallback
Much like you. :laugh: (and to be fair, me)

Bit seriously, just assuming people have money to blow is pretty useless.
not my problem and not the topic,which was orginally what would happen if he pushed the clocks too high ... which was nothing, the worst it could do is crash
"im poor I can't afford good parts" is not a excuse if you at that hard off where you can't afford to spend 200 bucks on a semi-decent gpu then you are better off not buying a gaming pc at all
it is never cost effective to built something with cheap components and upgrade
 
Joined
Jan 12, 2010
Messages
1,526 (0.29/day)
System Name Custom Built
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus PRIME A520M-A
Cooling Stock heatsink/fan
Memory 16GB 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2400MHz
Video Card(s) MSI 1050Ti 4GB
Storage KINGSTON SNVS250G 256GB M.2 + 2 data disks
Display(s) Dell S2421NX
Case Aerocool CS103
Audio Device(s) Realtek
Power Supply Seasonic M12II-520 EVO
Mouse Logitech MX Master 2S
Keyboard Logitech
Software Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
Thank you for the answers


My recommendation to you is, get yourself a 750 Ti or 950 first. Then after some while upgrade the CPU to a i5 like 2500K (or change mainboard too and get something newer, but also more expensive). PSU is the 3rd thing I'd upgrade, but I'd try the system with that generic PSU first, if it's halfway trustworthy (maybe you can post pics of it? Sticker on the side).
Yeah I have plans to get a Skylake motherboard and a Core i3 if everything goes up well, because my system is a bit aged (no Sata 3, no USB 3...) I will try to get a 750Ti after that but a new video card is not a priority right now.
The PSU is 5 years old, maybe I should replace it for a more powerful system
I will take a photo of the PSU when at home.

you could clock that card 150% over stock and it would still be relatively useless
replace it
"Replace it" how easy is to say that, huh?

useless? Your definition of useless is far from mine lol.
This PC isn't even made for gaming

I simply want to overclock to take the most from it basically.
Jumping from my old 610 to this 730 was GREAT
 
Joined
Jan 12, 2010
Messages
1,526 (0.29/day)
System Name Custom Built
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus PRIME A520M-A
Cooling Stock heatsink/fan
Memory 16GB 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2400MHz
Video Card(s) MSI 1050Ti 4GB
Storage KINGSTON SNVS250G 256GB M.2 + 2 data disks
Display(s) Dell S2421NX
Case Aerocool CS103
Audio Device(s) Realtek
Power Supply Seasonic M12II-520 EVO
Mouse Logitech MX Master 2S
Keyboard Logitech
Software Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
What better to learn to overclock than that card?
I learnt to overclock on a HD5450 long time ago lol, despite all the crashes, that card still survived :)

not my problem and not the topic,which was orginally what would happen if he pushed the clocks too high ... which was nothing, the worst it could do is crash
"im poor I can't afford good parts" is not a excuse if you at that hard off where you can't afford to spend 200 bucks on a semi-decent gpu then you are better off not buying a gaming pc at all
it is never cost effective to built something with cheap components and upgrade

First: the topic was to overclock the memory beyond the specs and was answered in #21.
Second, I can enjoy games at lowest settings. I don't need to play
Third, I never said this is a gaming PC, this PC is primarily for work and office. Which doesn't mean I wouldn't play some games.
Fourth Again your definition of semi decent is not the same as mine
Fourth, being rude is not helpful
Fifth If I wanted a machine to exclusively game, I would buy a console.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jan 12, 2010
Messages
1,526 (0.29/day)
System Name Custom Built
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus PRIME A520M-A
Cooling Stock heatsink/fan
Memory 16GB 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2400MHz
Video Card(s) MSI 1050Ti 4GB
Storage KINGSTON SNVS250G 256GB M.2 + 2 data disks
Display(s) Dell S2421NX
Case Aerocool CS103
Audio Device(s) Realtek
Power Supply Seasonic M12II-520 EVO
Mouse Logitech MX Master 2S
Keyboard Logitech
Software Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
Going back on topic, I can't benchmark, but I checked with WITCHER 3, which seems to be the heaviest game I have (more than Fallout 4) and it runs noticeably smoother (I just started so no heavy battles and such, just alone walking and by horse randomly lol, but I know it would slown down a lot), more than I thought it would, but still the CPU is holding back. The GPU isn't even at 100%. It runs stable. No artifacts. The card max temperature seems to be 70ºC

@Kanan
So yes, as per my previous posts if I have to buy a new video card, I would have to buy a CPU, if this card is held back by the CPU, imagine a 750Ti or 950 :)
I saw this motherboard https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/H110M-K-D3/
And a i3 6100.
Hope i can upgrade to a budget Skylake :)
 

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer
Joined
Aug 22, 2015
Messages
3,517 (1.11/day)
Location
Europe
System Name eazen corp | Xentronon 7.2
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X // PBO max.
Motherboard Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus
Cooling Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 w/ AM4 kit // 3x Corsair AF140L case fans (2 in, 1 out)
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16 GB DDR4 3600 @ 3800, CL16-19-19-39-58-1T, 1.4 V
Video Card(s) Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti modded to MATRIX // 2000-2100 MHz Core / 1938 MHz G6
Storage Silicon Power P34A80 1TB NVME/Samsung SSD 830 128GB&850 Evo 500GB&F3 1TB 7200RPM/Seagate 2TB 5900RPM
Display(s) Samsung 27" Curved FS2 HDR QLED 1440p/144Hz&27" iiyama TN LED 1080p/120Hz / Samsung 40" IPS 1080p TV
Case Corsair Carbide 600C
Audio Device(s) HyperX Cloud Orbit S / Creative SB X AE-5 @ Logitech Z906 / Sony HD AVR @PC & TV @ Teufel Theater 80
Power Supply EVGA 650 GQ
Mouse Logitech G700 @ Steelseries DeX // Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
Keyboard Corsair K70 LUX RGB /w Cherry MX Brown switches
VR HMD Still nope
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 15 095 Time Spy | P29 079 Firestrike | P35 628 3DM11 | X67 508 3DM Vantage Extreme
Going back on topic, I can't benchmark, but I checked with WITCHER 3, which seems to be the heaviest game I have (more than Fallout 4) and it runs noticeably smoother (I just started so no heavy battles and such, just alone walking and by horse randomly lol, but I know it would slown down a lot), more than I thought it would, but still the CPU is holding back. The GPU isn't even at 100%. It runs stable. No artifacts. The card max temperature seems to be 70ºC

@Kanan
So yes, as per my previous posts if I have to buy a new video card, I would have to buy a CPU, if this card is held back by the CPU, imagine a 750Ti or 950 :)
I saw this motherboard https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/H110M-K-D3/
And a i3 6100.
Hope i can upgrade to a budget Skylake :)
Yeah, seems the CPU is too slow. Is that MB you plan to buy able to overclock the i3 6100? I'd overclock the i3, it greatly increases it's worth/speed.
 
Joined
Sep 2, 2011
Messages
702 (0.15/day)
Location
Where the hand of man has never set foot
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600X
Motherboard ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4
Memory 2x8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4-3200MHz CL16 1.35V
Video Card(s) MSI Radeon RX 6600 XT Gaming X 8G
Storage Crucial MX100 512GB + Samsung 870 EVO 2TB
Display(s) MSI Optix MAG24C
Power Supply Seasonic FOCUS GX-550
Mouse Razer Viper Ultimate
Keyboard Corsair K60
Yeah, seems the CPU is too slow. Is that MB you plan to buy able to overclock the i3 6100? I'd overclock the i3, it greatly increases it's worth/speed.
He needs a Z170 motherboard to overclock therefore this board can't overclock.
 

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer
Joined
Aug 22, 2015
Messages
3,517 (1.11/day)
Location
Europe
System Name eazen corp | Xentronon 7.2
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X // PBO max.
Motherboard Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus
Cooling Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 w/ AM4 kit // 3x Corsair AF140L case fans (2 in, 1 out)
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16 GB DDR4 3600 @ 3800, CL16-19-19-39-58-1T, 1.4 V
Video Card(s) Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti modded to MATRIX // 2000-2100 MHz Core / 1938 MHz G6
Storage Silicon Power P34A80 1TB NVME/Samsung SSD 830 128GB&850 Evo 500GB&F3 1TB 7200RPM/Seagate 2TB 5900RPM
Display(s) Samsung 27" Curved FS2 HDR QLED 1440p/144Hz&27" iiyama TN LED 1080p/120Hz / Samsung 40" IPS 1080p TV
Case Corsair Carbide 600C
Audio Device(s) HyperX Cloud Orbit S / Creative SB X AE-5 @ Logitech Z906 / Sony HD AVR @PC & TV @ Teufel Theater 80
Power Supply EVGA 650 GQ
Mouse Logitech G700 @ Steelseries DeX // Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
Keyboard Corsair K70 LUX RGB /w Cherry MX Brown switches
VR HMD Still nope
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 15 095 Time Spy | P29 079 Firestrike | P35 628 3DM11 | X67 508 3DM Vantage Extreme
He needs a Z170 motherboard to overclock therefore this board can't overclock.
Too bad, but the i3 is okay I guess. I'd rather take a i5 though (more power for heavy games such as Witcher 3, BF4 etc - longer endurance in the future, saves money on the long run)
 
Joined
Jan 12, 2010
Messages
1,526 (0.29/day)
System Name Custom Built
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus PRIME A520M-A
Cooling Stock heatsink/fan
Memory 16GB 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2400MHz
Video Card(s) MSI 1050Ti 4GB
Storage KINGSTON SNVS250G 256GB M.2 + 2 data disks
Display(s) Dell S2421NX
Case Aerocool CS103
Audio Device(s) Realtek
Power Supply Seasonic M12II-520 EVO
Mouse Logitech MX Master 2S
Keyboard Logitech
Software Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
Thanks
I couldn't get the i3, and my older motherboard was dying (sometimes it wouldn't output video at boot) I got a Pentium G4400 which is still better than my older Celeron G530, If I get the money I could try to sell it and get the i3, or i5.
Now I will try Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 again and see if something improves.

Edit: CPU is not (at this stage of game) maxed out, unlike the Celeron, it runs more or less at 50% with peaks of 80-90. The games don't stutter anymore . Overclocking the core at 1100 makes the games (specially Witcher 3 - Fallout 4 is more smooth even at stock) way more smoother, seems that overclock is worth it.
 
Last edited:

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer
Joined
Aug 22, 2015
Messages
3,517 (1.11/day)
Location
Europe
System Name eazen corp | Xentronon 7.2
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X // PBO max.
Motherboard Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus
Cooling Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 w/ AM4 kit // 3x Corsair AF140L case fans (2 in, 1 out)
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16 GB DDR4 3600 @ 3800, CL16-19-19-39-58-1T, 1.4 V
Video Card(s) Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti modded to MATRIX // 2000-2100 MHz Core / 1938 MHz G6
Storage Silicon Power P34A80 1TB NVME/Samsung SSD 830 128GB&850 Evo 500GB&F3 1TB 7200RPM/Seagate 2TB 5900RPM
Display(s) Samsung 27" Curved FS2 HDR QLED 1440p/144Hz&27" iiyama TN LED 1080p/120Hz / Samsung 40" IPS 1080p TV
Case Corsair Carbide 600C
Audio Device(s) HyperX Cloud Orbit S / Creative SB X AE-5 @ Logitech Z906 / Sony HD AVR @PC & TV @ Teufel Theater 80
Power Supply EVGA 650 GQ
Mouse Logitech G700 @ Steelseries DeX // Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
Keyboard Corsair K70 LUX RGB /w Cherry MX Brown switches
VR HMD Still nope
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 15 095 Time Spy | P29 079 Firestrike | P35 628 3DM11 | X67 508 3DM Vantage Extreme
Thanks
I couldn't get the i3, and my older motherboard was dying (sometimes it wouldn't output video at boot) I got a Pentium G4400 which is still better than my older Celeron G530, If I get the money I could try to sell it and get the i3, or i5.
Now I will try Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 again and see if something improves.

Edit: CPU is not (at this stage of game) maxed out, unlike the Celeron, it runs more or less at 50% with peaks of 80-90. The games don't stutter anymore . Overclocking the core at 1100 makes the games (specially Witcher 3 - Fallout 4 is more smooth even at stock) way more smoother, seems that overclock is worth it.
Well, seems you solved your problems with that Skylake based CPU. CPU update is prolonged for you know, I'd say. You may still want to get a i3 or i5 though, some games don't work with 2 threads, but I read about a workaround that fools these games into thinking that the CPU has 4 threads so that it still runs (more or less).
 
Top