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Anyone know approximately when the next generation of Nvidia & AMD cards will be out? Not sure if I want to go 980 ti or wait, if it's not too long.
 
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everyone says wait. i've heard in a few months polaris would be announced, if you really want to get a 980 ti i would guess get it if you get two otherwise wait. although i've been told to wait before and we got the gtx 970 so i would say it was worth the wait from past experience(i have a r9 390 now due to freesynce monitor).
 
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Midrange Pascal is rumored to be out in May... but it, rumor, is GDDR5X not the flagship HBM2. I would GUESS it would beat a 980Ti, but, not sure.
 

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Anyone know approximately when the next generation of Nvidia & AMD cards will be out? Not sure if I want to go 980 ti or wait, if it's not too long.


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Anyone know approximately when the next generation of Nvidia & AMD cards will be out? Not sure if I want to go 980 ti or wait, if it's not too long.

And please take special note of what @EarthDog says. The first versions will be mid -tier, and probably all there is for a couple more months after.

So, if you are considering top-end now, be aware that what you're considering waiting for is not top end (although lkely better than 980 Ti), unless you will be waiting even longer.
 
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NVIDIA's keynote on April 5, I'm sure u can wait a few days...
 
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There's been speculation in lots of other threads, if you had read them you would have noticed. :slap:
 
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The first versions will be mid -tier

I hope so @rtwjunkie ! I haven't gone with a GTX970 yet...

Here I read that the GTX1080 or X80 should be there in May.
I hope as you mentioned that the GTX1070 or X70 comes first!
 
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I'm just waiting for a Ti variant so, probably end of the year, early next year so they can sell Titans at double the price first.
 
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Midrange Pascal is rumored to be out in May... but it, rumor, is GDDR5X not the flagship HBM2. I would GUESS it would beat a 980Ti, but, not sure.

Right.

On a purely fundamental level, think a 512-bit (GP104) vs 384-bit bus (GM200), as GDDR5X is twice the bandwidth of GDDR5. That said, GDDR5x tops out at 6ghz (12000gbps), GDDR5 at 8ghz, but 980ti also uses only 7ghz GDDR5.

Normalized, the equivalent amount of bandwidth on 980ti would be 256-bit/5.5ghz GDDR5x. GDDR5x is available at 5, 5.5, and 6ghz speeds.

IMHO, expect something that can tap out 6ghz/256-bit for the high-end of GP104, and a slightly lower spec for the 'x70' version more-so similar to 980ti (just as GM204 was to big Kepler). While not a super huge difference in that respect on paper (granted one would hope it is reflected in price), don't underestimate nvidia could replace some SFUs (essentially what makes a 980ti similar to having 3520 units versus it's actual 2816sp) for actual shader processors, similar to AMD, among other bandwidth efficiency tricks. This could improve compute, granted at the price of other gaming efficiency. That said, the high-end model will probably be a tighter configuration than what is seen on 980ti (more-so similar to Titan X), making a design more people will buy over-all more efficient, while perhaps still clocking well within it's given TDP (unlike Titan but more-so similar to 980ti).

TLDR: GP104 is almost certainly going to attack the same market as GM200; the '1440p60/4k30' high-end gaming niche, 4k60 mainstream title market...probably exactly the same thing as Vega10, and one would hope within 225w. Odds are GP100 (using 1ghz HBM2) will be configured in such a way when overclocked it can obtain closer to the 4k60 high-end ideal (similar to GM200 was with 4k30 high-end PC titles/60fps ports), and as-such will probably be closer to what the stock 1.2ghz HBM2-using Volta will achieve at stock. This would probably also sit well with Volta bringing 7 or 8gbps GDDR5x, if not lower-end HBM2 (800-1000mhz) to the performance segment (GV104) as well.

That seems the most likely progression to me, but I certainly could be wrong.

As was said, we're literally only a couple days away from the Pascal keynote at GTC, and that will likely blow everything wide open in terms of what exactly the architecture is, and hence what we should expect in terms of configurations/markets the skus are aimed.

That said, would I buy now or wait? Most certainly wait...no matter what.

Not only because of the 4k possibilities of GP104, but what seems to be overwhelming evidence Polaris will be aimed at EVERYTHING below that. While AMD may or may not achieve 1440p30 high-end/60fps ports at the upper-most levels of that chip, unless nvidia pulls another $300 970 with the low-end GP104...and perhaps even then...Polaris 10 will probably end up being a much more cost-effective, good-enough chip for many people (especially those running at 1080p). I would expect at least the perf/$ of 970, if not a better ratio.

The question in my mind really is the cross-over of high-end Polaris 10 with low-end GP104. How will each perform; what will each cost? Will one be able to obtain 4k30 and/or 1440p60 most of the time while the other won't? Will one cost $300 and the other $400...and if something along those lines is the later worth it to EVERYONE, let-alone someone whom could be content with a lesser Polaris 10?

That will be the interesting thing to watch imho, and depending on performance, could end up being where the price wars occur and many people could benefit (regardless of choice) depending on their situation.
 
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Best to wait unless you really want a 980Ti that bad considering Nvidia just announced they are no longer shipping the chips to manufactures. Should be sign that they maybe getting ready to tease the next gen cards. Though, mid tier just going to show face first, so still long wait for big die to drop.

Only thing though, I do believe they are not going to have GDDR5X since the manufacturing of that is not even up to full speed yet (Micron just announced 3 days ago about adding it to their catalog and samples to their partners). Be surprised to even see it on Pascal.
 
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i would buy now.. waiting might save a few money tokens but it can be painful.. :)

anything that beats a 980 Ti aint gonna come that cheap anyway..

and if the 980 TI does drop in price when the new stuff comes out you could always buy another one.. :)

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Really like my 980 Ti. This thing cuts through most games with ease.
 

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i hope it gets cheaper ...
Yeah. I got a little bit off when I ordered it through Newegg. Also got the digital download for "The Division". Pretty cool game, so far.
 

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Yeah. I got a little bit off when I ordered it through Newegg. Also got the digital download for "The Division". Pretty cool game, so far.
i meant ... for cheap ! hehe
 
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