NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB

MxPhenom 216 · May 17, 2016

z1tu said:
From what I understood, there will be a reference nvidia card and the founders edition with the "special cooler". Or maybe I got that wrong...

Nope. Founders edition is the reference with the newly designed titan looking cooler with all the angles on it. Its really just a reference card with fancy name.

http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...nvidia-founders-edition-geforce-gtx-explained

Official statement from Nvidia:

"Relative to previous NVIDIA designs, we have upgraded the following areas: The power supply has been upgraded from 4-phases to a 5-phase dual-FET design and tuned for bandwidth, phase balancing and acoustics. We added extra capacitance to our filtering network, and optimised the power delivery network on the PCB for low impedance. As a result, power efficiency increased by roughly 6% compared to the GTX 980, and peak to peak voltage noise was reduced from 209mV to 120mV for improved overclocking.

"The GTX 1080 uses a vapour chamber cooling, a first for a sub-250W NVIDIA designed graphics card. Finally, we have a new industrial design with a faceted body and a new low profile backplate. The backplate features a removable section to allow better airflow between multiple graphics cards in adjacent SLI configuration."

rtwjunkie · May 17, 2016

z1tu said:
The reference card will be 599, aftermarket ones will obviously be higher priced as has always been with nvidia and amd.

Not this time. NVIDIA has deliberately priced the reference card (founders edition) higher. Why, I don't know, since it's a baffling move.

z1tu · May 17, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
Not this time. NVIDIA has deliberately priced the reference card (founders edition) higher. Why, I don't know, since it's a baffling move.

Well hopefully partners don't use that as an excuse to jack prices.

GreiverBlade · May 17, 2016

just to add

+30-40% more than a 980 is not blowing any other out of the water ...

i expected a little more, but i guess the 1080 is a letdown for me

rtwjunkie said:
Not this time. NVIDIA has deliberately priced the reference card (founders edition) higher. Why, I don't know, since it's a baffling move.

because they just wanted to make it more expensive aka camouflaging a raise in price adding a fancy "founder" edition fooling early buyer (without lub included) and make them think they have a unique piece of art of a cooler, while it's only a reference cooler like the previous one (which received so many praise that nvidia did choose to make people pay for it afterward on the next gen ..) pure shady move

z1tu said:
Well hopefully partners don't use that as an excuse to jack prices.

they will and they are already ... for me even the 980Ti is on par with MSRP of a Titan X ... i fear the 1080 and 1080Ti will be ridiculously high priced ... remember 699~ was supposed to be the 980Ti ... naaaahhh nope nope nope ... my 980 Poseidon is already near that price BNIB.

edit: after a quick check i noticed some custom 980 and 980Ti prices were going down a bit ... a bit, mind you: -1 to 5% of initial price, that's what i call a reduction

MxPhenom 216 · May 17, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
Not this time. NVIDIA has deliberately priced the reference card (founders edition) higher. Why, I don't know, since it's a baffling move.

Seriously I dont understand their train of thought on it.

z1tu said:
Well hopefully partners don't use that as an excuse to jack prices.

Time will tell. All I know is my next card will be an MSI Gaming variant.

z1tu · May 17, 2016

MxPhenom 216 said:
Seriously I dont understand their train of thought on it.

Time will tell. All I know is my next card will be an MSI Gaming variant.

How can you be sure tho? I mean my SuperJetsream was awesome and it was very good price/performance but for maxwell it was very disappointing. I know the Gaming variants have proven very good in the past but I'll be waiting for reviews until I make a verdict.

MxPhenom 216 · May 17, 2016

z1tu said:
How can you be sure tho? I mean my SuperJetsream was awesome and it was very good price/performance but for maxwell it was very disappointing. I know the Gaming variants have proven very good in the past but I'll be waiting for reviews until I make a verdict.

I have built like 3 systems with MSI gaming cards and love them, and these systems were for other people, so I want one now.

mroofie · May 17, 2016

GreiverBlade said:
just to add

+30-40% more than a 980 is not blowing any other out of the water ...

i expected a little more, but i guess the 1080 is a letdown for me

because they just wanted to make it more expensive aka camouflaging a raise in price adding a fancy "founder" edition fooling early buyer (without lub included) and make them think they have a unique piece of art of a cooler, while it's only a reference cooler like the previous one (which received so many praise that nvidia did choose to make people pay for it afterward on the next gen ..) pure shady move

they will and they are already ... for me even the 980Ti is on par with MSRP of a Titan X ... i fear the 1080 and 1080Ti will be ridiculously high priced ... remember 699~ was supposed to be the 980Ti ... naaaahhh nope nope nope ... my 980 Poseidon is already near that price BNIB.

edit: after a quick check i noticed some custom 980 and 980Ti prices were going down a bit ... a bit, mind you: -1 to 5% of initial price, that's what i call a reduction

Might want to check those fps figures again :rolleyes:

Bit more than 40% as you claim :roll:

#rip

medi01 · May 17, 2016

Comparison to 980 is wrong, to begin with, as card is priced higher than 980Ti, and, if check DE pricing, 789 Euros, it's on "980Ti++" levels.

So in the end you get 20-25% over 980Ti, for 10-20% more.

cadaveca said:
and impartial to any brand in reviews.

Aquinus said:
when AMD releases a GPU with 8GB of VRAM and it gets a Con for "8 GB VRAM provides no tangible benefits"

Lovely.

newconroer · May 17, 2016

Some improvement sure, though overall seems underwhelming and more just a showcase of their new (yet questionable if really useful to anyone?) hardware tech.

Given the power draw, heat output, noise level, fabrication, die shrink and relative performance, I don't see how this reference card is any thing special.
Let's hope the third party turn Nvidia's silly 'market space' approach upside down and give us something worth more for our cash.

Let's also hope that the TI model actually launches at $699 like the reference 1080, then it may be worth it. Pascal doesn't feel like Pascal without HBM2 any ways .

HD64G · May 17, 2016

mroofie said:
Might want to check those fps figures again

Bit more than 40% as you claim

#rip

GTX1080 performs 32% better from stock 980Ti at 4K and 1440P and 36% better at 1080P.

Valdas · May 17, 2016

medi01 said:
So in the end you get 20-25% over 980Ti, for 10-20% more.

It's more like 35%-ish over 980 Ti, unless you're comparing it with OCed 980Ti.

the54thvoid · May 17, 2016

HD64G said:
GTX1080 performs 32% better from stock 980Ti at 4K and 1440P and 36% better at 1080P.

Taking percentile as fps (which is allowed given rating of 1080 as 100), at 4k & 1440p, 1080 is 100 and 980ti is 73. 100-73=27. 27/73 = 36.98 (37). That means the upshot is 1080 has 137% the comparable performance of a 980ti (where 100% would be the same, not to be confused with a 100% performance increase).

At 1080p the comparable performance is 131.5%. (76 versus 100).

Also - as far as the shortsighted comments regarding the 8Gb of Vram being great all of a sudden, the VR environment has changed the need for Vram (looking forward). Also the 8Gb on a 390 was (although a slight boost to high res performance) insignificant for 4k as the chip itself was not powerful enough to perform at 4k (unless crossfired).

The Fury X 4Gb is not high enough looking forward but it's sheer speed helps it massively.

dirtyferret · May 17, 2016

FINALLY!! A card I can play Hearstone with, The way it's meant to be played.

ironwolf · May 17, 2016

This is the 3rd review today I have read for the 1080. After reading each one my jaw hit the floor with the performance % increases. Very impressed with the performance. I'm afraid that my 970 is going to start crying when I get home and mention these reviews. :cry:

GreiverBlade · May 17, 2016

mroofie said:
Might want to check those fps figures again

Bit more than 40% as you claim

#rip

mmhhh? #rip.... ? childish hashtag to say "you virtually murdered me"? ... :laugh:

i see 30 to 40% increase all over a stock 980 ... (talking 1080p and 4k respectively ...) its still not a good enough card to warrant a 980 replacement )

oh wait ... 4k ... the 1080 is 41% above 980 ... my bad ... 1080P it's 36% ... my bad again ...

HD64G said:
GTX1080 performs 32% better from stock 980Ti at 4K and 1440P and 36% better at 1080P.

you added a Ti too much ... in the charts the 980 has clearly no Ti behind ... at last the one that is 36% and 41% under a 1080 since the 980Ti is at 24% of a 1080 (1080P) and 27% in 4k ....

newconroer · May 17, 2016

ironwolf said:
This is the 3rd review today I have read for the 1080. After reading each one my jaw hit the floor with the performance % increases. Very impressed with the performance. I'm afraid that my 970 is going to start crying when I get home and mention these reviews.

Why?

You could get another one and still be in the same performance bracket as the 1080. The 1080 can't hold 96+ fps at 1440p in a lot of titles(especially non triple AAA), so what exactly are you gaining other than the additional 4GB VRAM?

970 SLI now, 1080 TI later (maybe).

fullinfusion · May 17, 2016

I believe I'm packing up and leaving the red camp...

I never thought I'd ever say that but after reading this review I'm all in on this bas ass card!

Sorry AMD but ya did it to yourself

medi01 · May 17, 2016

Valdas said:
It's more like 35%-ish over 980 Ti, unless you're comparing it with OCed 980Ti.

Aren't most 980Ti-s overclocked? (and don't they OC much better than what we see 1080 do?)

radrok · May 17, 2016

Awesome review :toast:

I guess it's finally time to upgrade...

z1tu · May 17, 2016

fullinfusion said:
I believe I'm packing up and leaving the red camp...

I never thought I'd ever say that but after reading this review I'm all in on this bas ass card!

Sorry AMD but ya did it to yourself

I don't understand why you would say that before seeing what AMD have to offer.

BiggieShady · May 17, 2016

That Simultaneous Multi-projection is a big deal ... the point is doing the geometry pipeline only once and have up to 16 projection in a single pass. Possible only on new pascal arch, there is a smp block in a new updated polymorph engine in each SM

GreiverBlade · May 17, 2016

also, "founders edition" +100$ = 699 and AIB will table on a 599$ MSRP my @$$, AIB will never price their custom lower than a reference and since the founders IS the reference model they will table on a base price of 699$, why would they do otherwise?

medi01 said:
Comparison to 980 is wrong, to begin with, as card is priced higher than 980Ti, and, if check DE pricing, 789 Euros, it's on "980Ti++" levels.

So in the end you get 20-25% over 980Ti, for 10-20% more.

i will compare the 980Ti with a 1080Ti ... and not the other way, furthermore since the price of the 2 line is similar where i live, 980 to 1080, tho seeing price for custom coming like 1200ish ... indeed i would get a 1080 for 600$ more than my actual 980 price ... eh? way advantageous indeed ... (which would place them at a 1080 price = 980Ti price for even less performance increase than over a 980.).

nope that card is not the one that will make me change my 980, overpriced (nvidia, what else) discutable "founders" calling to put them at 699$ and saying AIB will table on a 599MSRP (yeah yeah that cooler is worth 100$ ... right )

fullinfusion said:
I believe I'm packing up and leaving the red camp...

I never thought I'd ever say that but after reading this review I'm all in on this bas ass card!

Sorry AMD but ya did it to yourself

meh... on my side i am currently waiting on what they will release before saying that ... as the 290X 390X are still, more than capable cards (so is the 295x2 over the 1080 if we make abstraction of the CFX issues )

z1tu said:
I don't understand why you would say that before seeing what AMD have to offer.

exactly.

z1tu · May 17, 2016

BiggieShady said:
That Simultaneous Multi-projection is a big deal ... the point is doing the geometry pipeline only once and have up to 16 projection in a single pass. Possible only on new pascal arch, there is a smp block in a new updated polymorph engine in each SM

I recognize some of those words!

medi01 · May 17, 2016

fullinfusion said:
I believe I'm packing up and leaving the red camp...

Team red might offer something for you Oct this year the earliest, since you got 290 and 480 will be rather on par with it.
Although, I'd say, 1070/1080 is an overpriced flop that is not worth it.

GreiverBlade said:
i will compare the 980Ti with a 1080Ti ... and not the other way,

Then compare it to R9 380.
After all, it also ends with 80.
Makes as much sense.

Price wise, 1080 currently sits between 980Ti and Titanium X, 980 is a different tier entirely. (789 Euros FFS)

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