Do I need to upgrade from current system for new GTX 1070?

[terroralpha]

LG 22" 1920x1080 monitor

focus on upgrading that first

 

[Mussels]

I don't think he can OC it as it is a non-K.

non K's can OC to have all cores run at turbo clocks, if nothing else.

 

[Enterprise24]

focus on upgrading that first

Agree. GTX 1080 is overkill for 1080p 60Hz monitor. Why not get something like GTX 1070 and some nice monitor ?

 

[Mussels]

well as one fair point, my brother has a GTX 1080 on 6700K system - and he sits at 150W (measured at the wall) in most of the games he plays.

So even at 1080p, there are advantages (super low power consumption, super low heat/noise) - hell he can play some older games and the GPU + PSU fans dont even turn on, the passive airflow from the 2x120mm on his CPU radiator keeps the system cold enough :/

 

[Ferrum Master]

Just sell the 780Ti.

Not because of performance. But warranty. It might kick the bucket after a year, nothing lives forever.

Sell this, and get a new one... it will be colder and more silent too.

 

[Enterprise24]

Sorry misreading.

 

[eidairaman1]

Nope, Even a Phenom 2 would do fine

 

[ratirt]

Phenom 2 would've been a bottleneck with 1080 GTX for sure.

 

[Frick]

well as one fair point, my brother has a GTX 1080 on 6700K system - and he sits at 150W (measured at the wall) in most of the games he plays.

So even at 1080p, there are advantages (super low power consumption, super low heat/noise) - hell he can play some older games and the GPU + PSU fans dont even turn on, the passive airflow from the 2x120mm on his CPU radiator keeps the system cold enough :/

That's less than what my system pulls.

 

[Mussels]

That's less than what my system pulls.

i've been poking him to do a write up about it here on TPU, but in his own words "i'm shit at writing crap"

the sheer efficiency of his system is amazing, because he has a high end GPU and runs at 1080p, 60Hz with Vsync on. he's seeing an average of 25% load in most games - meaning stupidly low power consumption.

those same games he's now <150W in was over 500W with his previous crossfire setup.

 

[AvidTechUser]

focus on upgrading that first

I'm in two minds about which to upgrade. I would love to be able to experience 4K gaming, but finances might not allow for that dream to become a reality any time soon. I will have to upgrade one first, then the other some time in the future.

GTX 1070 prices range from AU$735 to $800.

GTX 1080 prices range from AU$1150 to $1260.

As for a decent 4k capable monitor, I am looking at the range of AU$550 to $850.

If I plan to space out my purchases, which component should be upgraded first I wonder?

 

[Mussels]

GPU first, monitor later. otherwise you wont be gaming at 4K, you'll be slideshowing.

 

[AvidTechUser]

Thanks for all the feedback, you guys have been very helpful.

Just curious, if I were to go ahead and sell my current graphics card, how much could I get for it, realistically? I guess eBay would be an option...

Model name of the card is: GV-N78TOC-3GD (Gigabyte Geforce GTX 780 Ti Windforce OC 3GB edition).

ETA: At the time I bought it, I paid about AU$800 for it.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

The non reference 780 Ti's in general on ebay.com.au start at about $330 Buy Now price, but I saw a Giga one for $385.

Just put it up for auction and sell to the highest bidder. Note that it helps if it looks very clean, and you have a pic of it and the box.

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...80+Ti+used.TRS0&_nkw=GTX+780+Ti+used&_sacat=0

 

[Mussels]

ebay prices are bad, last year i got a 290 for $150 and a 970 for $200 this week :/

try second hand markets near you, facebook groups etc.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

ebay prices are bad...

Not for those whom want to make a quick purchase without worrying about risk. They pretty much have you covered there, and that's worth something.

 

[Machinematrix]

Agree. GTX 1080 is overkill for 1080p 60Hz monitor. Why not get something like GTX 1070 and some nice monitor ?

Or he can keep that monitor, get a 1080 and keep it for 3 years, or more.

 

[Ungari]

Personally I would wait a while until the 1070 drops in price. I know a lot of people probably have the upgrade bug especially with the new hardware being released..... but a 780ti is plenty for 1080p, or at least enough to wait til the price drops at least somewhat.

Price drop expected after Vega is released and 1080Ti is paper launched.

 

[blued]

Monitor is always no.1 priority for me. Whats the point of a high end GPU other than getting better eye candy from higher settings? If thats the ultimate aim of a GPU, I can assure you a bigger, better higher res monitor (1440p) will bring you far more immersion, image quality, detail than a small lower res monitor ever could, even if maxed out. Simply put, the quality of your viewing experience has more to do with the monitor than from the GPU. And you will be looking at it 100% of the time, not just when gaming.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Whats the point of a high end GPU other than getting better eye candy from higher settings? If thats the ultimate aim of a GPU, I can assure you a bigger, better higher res monitor (1440p) will bring you far more immersion, image quality, detail than a small lower res monitor ever could, even if maxed out.

You are quite mistaken. A bigger, higher rez monitor needs a stronger GPU to bring the same image quality enjoyed on a lower rez monitor.

And, LOL, the point of a GPU IS in fact to display the best eye candy possible. To that end, the GPU upgrade needs to come first.

You also need to factor in that everyone is not rich, so getting a powerful GPU on a lower rez but still decent sized monitor allows them to continue to play several years of new games, without upgrading and still seeing the best eye candy before buying anything new.

 

[arbiter]

Youy cpu is more then good enough to run a gtx1070 no problem. If you don't want a new monitor probably better idea to just grab a 980ti off the after market instead as you can get it now probably for same price.

 

[EarthDog]

Monitor is always no.1 priority for me. Whats the point of a high end GPU other than getting better eye candy from higher settings? If thats the ultimate aim of a GPU, I can assure you a bigger, better higher res monitor (1440p) will bring you far more immersion, image quality, detail than a small lower res monitor ever could, even if maxed out. Simply put, the quality of your viewing experience has more to do with the monitor than from the GPU. And you will be looking at it 100% of the time, not just when gaming.

Wouldn't it suck to upgrade from 1080 to 1440p and have things unplayable or have to turn settings down... kind of defeats the point of the viewing experience, no?

 

[Frick]

Wouldn't it suck to upgrade from 1080 to 1440p and have things unplayable or have to turn settings down... kind of defeats the point of the viewing experience, no?

Otoh the monitor will last longer than the GPU, and you can game on the old settings. It won't be the same but still. It depends on how much you're willing/able to spend I guess, and how much time there is between purchases.

Personally I'd definitely get a better/bigger monitor even if games would run like crap on its native res, because I use the monitor for everything.

 

[Mussels]

if your current system doesnt have the balls for native res, i'd absolutely hate the quality drop of running out of native res, or at worse settings than i was already used to.

 

[Vayra86]

Keep with your 780TI man, its a beast of a card even today.

Well, yes. For 1080p I'm still reasonably satisfied with it, but the 780TI won't give me 120 fps, and the 1070 will easily get there in about 75% of all games, perhaps with dialing back one or two things from ultra to High.

I am considering a similar upgrade, the gap has really gotten wide enough to justify it. Just waiting for price to come down, and if that takes too long it'll still be a 980ti

That being said, for 1080p/60, I'd stick with the 780ti another 6 months and see what the new real high end is gonna do, so you can actually consider a real monitor upgrade too. The 1070 really is a 1440p/60 card, or a 1080p/120 card - neither the 1070 or 1080 are really the '4K cards' yet and the release of 1080ti will be pushing 1070/1080 down to normal, reasonable prices unless AMD pulls out something very unexpected before then (like the RX 480 getting within 20-15% of the 1070 performance level).

Honestly OP, if I were making choices of yes/no new monitor AND GPU right now like you say you are, I would think twice on buying the most overpriced GPU currently available and of the past few years in the market. WAIT. Or invest in the monitor now, and live with the lack of GPU grunt for a couple months. Never early adopt a new graphics card that is also the top dog of the moment, and especially never early adopt that graphics card if it is in fact, NOT the top dog of graphics cards SKU's. Like you said - you paid 800 bucks for your 780ti, and now you're gonna do the same for a lower tiered card, literally a much smaller chip? That is tossing away a good 200-250 bucks just for having way too much GPU for your current monitor. It makes no sense.