AMD "Vega 10" GPU Crosses a Development Milestone

btarunr · Jun 27, 2016

AMD Radeon Technologies Group (RTG) chief Raja Koduri was in Shanghai last week to meet with one of the design teams of the "Polaris10" and the upcoming "Vega10." He tweeted that development of "Vega10" had just crossed a milestone, although it's a long way to go before you can see it. The 5th generation Graphics CoreNext architecture, and successor to the upcoming "Polaris" architecture, "Vega" promises a higher performance/Watt than "Polaris," which in turn boasts of a large energy efficiency leap over its predecessor.

One of the most notable derivatives of "Vega" is the "Vega10," poised to be a performance-segment GPU, which will make it to the market alongside "Vega11," a larger enthusiast-segment chip. The Vega10 is rumored to feature 4,096 stream processors spread across 64 compute units, and is expected to be a competitor to NVIDIA's GP104 silicon. The larger Vega11 could compete with larger chips based on the "Pascal" architecture, such as the GP102.

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ZoneDymo · Jun 27, 2016

gawd damn it, dont make me look forward to this just when Im considering getting an RX480 or GTX1060 whenever that will show itself

btarunr · Jun 27, 2016

FAQ#1: Twitter in Shanghai?
Ans. The free-trade zone around Pudong allows western social networks such as Twitter.

Dethroy · Jun 27, 2016

ZoneDymo said:
gawd damn it, dont make me look forward to this just when Im considering getting an RX480 or GTX1060 whenever that will show itself

Do you have any comprehensible reason to upgrade as things are now? Or is it merely the upgrade itch getting the upper hand?
I know that feeling all too well. But I've stuck out for so long and my GTX 670 still manages playable framerates at basically everything I throw at it. The Borg claim that resistance is futile. I'd say that you are better than that :rockout:

bug · Jun 27, 2016

So now, not only do we know nothing about Vega10, we also don't know anything about this supposed milestone it just past.
Not the most informative piece of news, I have to admit.

ZoneDymo · Jun 27, 2016

Dethroy said:
Do you have any comprehensible reason to upgrade as things are now? Or is it merely the upgrade itch getting the upper hand?
I know that feeling all too well. But I've stuck out for so long and my GTX 670 still manages playable framerates at basically everything I throw at it. The Borg claim that resistance is futile. I'd say that you are better than that

I actually have a bit of a need for it, The Division is entirely unplayable for me (my card not being supported by that game does not help) and the free weekend of a Warhammer game was also not the greatest experience.
I would also love ot make use of features like VCE/Nvenc and DSR/VSR which are all relegated to gpu's some gens beyond mine.

ZoneDymo · Jun 27, 2016

bug said:
So now, not only do we know nothing about Vega10, we also don't know anything about this supposed milestone it just past.
Not the most informative piece of news, I have to admit.

Well considering the pushed Vega forwards on the release schedule I guess its nice to know that from this point in time it seems they are on track to make that ermm rushed? release date.

Nosada · Jun 27, 2016

bug said:
So now, not only do we know nothing about Vega10

Let the FUD and rumours commence!

It'll have eleventybillion shaders, all of which are running at warp 9.9. It'll do 7-dimensional gaming faster than your toaster, and run for 7 years at 100% on a cellphone battery. Also, it cures cancer and beats up superman. And all of that for just $4.99! Order now!!!

Ungari · Jun 27, 2016

ZoneDymo said:
I actually have a bit of a need for it, The Division is entirely unplayable for me (my card not being supported by that game does not help) and the free weekend of a Warhammer game was also not the greatest experience.

Wow! Especially when you consider that The Division was dumbed down so as not to outstrip the console performance.

Chaitanya · Jun 27, 2016

Waiting for 480 reviews, and Amd drops info on Vega.

the54thvoid · Jun 27, 2016

ZoneDymo said:
Well considering the pushed Vega forwards on the release schedule I guess its nice to know that from this point in time it seems they are on track to make that ermm rushed? release date.

I saw that rumour but did AMD confirm a 2016 release because the road maps said 2017. This news doesn't expand on release, if anything it says it's a long way off. Unfortunately.

rtwjunkie · Jun 27, 2016

the54thvoid said:
I saw that rumour but did AMD confirm a 2016 release because the road maps said 2017. This news doesn't expand on release, if anything it says it's a long way off. Unfortunately.

I thought about a month and a half ago AMD confirmed they had moved Vega release forward to October.

bug · Jun 27, 2016

ZoneDymo said:
Well considering the pushed Vega forwards on the release schedule I guess its nice to know that from this point in time it seems they are on track to make that ermm rushed? release date.

How does this "news" tell us Vega10 is on track? We don't know what milestones it was supposed to hit and when. Maybe they just hit some milestone they were supposed to hit in March? (just kidding)

bug · Jun 27, 2016

Nosada said:
Let the FUD and rumours commence!

It'll have eleventybillion shaders, all of which are running at warp 9.9. It'll do 7-dimensional gaming faster than your toaster, and run for 7 years at 100% on a cellphone battery. Also, it cures cancer and beats up superman. And all of that for just $4.99! Order now!!!

What a joke. So it doesn't do my laundry, after all.

rtwjunkie · Jun 27, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
I thought about a month and a half ago AMD confirmed they had moved Vega release forward to October.

I did see it!
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-pulls-radeon-vega-launch-to-october.222403/

efikkan · Jun 27, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
I thought about a month and a half ago AMD confirmed they had moved Vega release forward to October.

No, there is no confirmation at this point.
If Vega were to be released in October, then QA samples should be out by now, which has not happened yet...

rtwjunkie · Jun 27, 2016

efikkan said:
No, there is no confirmation at this point.
If Vega were to be released in October, then QA samples should be out by now, which has not happened yet...

Read prior post to yours.

efikkan · Jun 27, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
Read prior post to yours.

I've seen that forum post a long time ago, and it even contains bogus information. "Vega 10" will be the big chip, "Vega 11" will be the smaller one.

rtwjunkie · Jun 27, 2016

efikkan said:
I've seen that forum post a long time ago, and it even contains bogus information. "Vega 10" will be the big chip, "Vega 11" will be the smaller one.

I can neither confirm nor deny your view, since we really don't know timelines. I just gave the link which may or may not be factual. However, May 11="a long time ago"?

Seriously?!

Divide Overflow · Jun 27, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
I did see it!
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-pulls-radeon-vega-launch-to-october.222403/

"AMD reportedly decided to pull the launch of its next big silicon, Vega10, from its scheduled early-2017 launch, to October 2016."

I'm looking forward to Vega too, but what was the source of this "report"? Take it with a grain of salt, or be subject to the consequences of your own wild expectations.

rtwjunkie · Jun 27, 2016

Divide Overflow said:
"AMD reportedly decided to pull the launch of its next big silicon, Vega10, from its scheduled early-2017 launch, to October 2016."

I'm looking forward to Vega too, but what was the source of this "report"? Take it with a grain of salt people, or be subject to the consequences of your own wild expectations.

I have no speculations or expectations.

I just threw out that article which laid claim to a move forward of the release. Nothing more.

BTW, BTA's source is listed below the post he wrote. Whenever there is a "source", he lists it like that.

Divide Overflow · Jun 27, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
I have no speculations or expectations. I just threw out that article which laid claim to a move forward of the release. Nothing more.

Then as efikkan pointed out, there is no confirmation from AMD at this point.

Sorry, rtwjunkie, not targeting you specifically. The expectations comment was more to the wider audience at large.

bug · Jun 27, 2016

Divide Overflow said:
Then as efikkan pointed out, there is no confirmation from AMD at this point.

AMD is into some shady practices lately, as far as marketing is concerned.
They've also moved Zen to 2017 and I had one of their developers tell me Zen was never planned to come out in 2016, despite several presentations bearing AMD's logo I showed him.
Imho, they're going for the rumour mill, because they can retract anything afterwards.

Edit: Of course, I could be wrong. But that's the impression they give me lately.

HD64G · Jun 27, 2016

My opinion is that the milestone they celebrated is that the 1st ES of Vega 10 hits above their target in clocks and efficiency. That probably means that it will come sooner than they were expecting in order to battle big guns of nVidia. If I am wrong, I can't see why they made a fuss about... :confused:

efikkan · Jun 27, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
I can neither confirm nor deny your view, since we really don't know timelines. I just gave the link which may or may not be factual. However, May 11="a long time ago"? Seriously?!

It's not a matter of view, Vega 10 is going to be bigger than Vega 11 like with Polaris. Even the Polaris specs in that forum post is wrong.

A few days ago we got information that Vega is soon finishing development. So the final design is not even taped out yet, which means that QA samples are at least 3 months after tape out, and the finished product is 6-9 months away. Remember that GP104 was finished in development and taped out in ~June 2015.

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