AMD "Vega 10" GPU Crosses a Development Milestone

Caring1 · Jun 27, 2016

efikkan said:
A few days ago we got information that Vega is soon finishing development. So the final design is not even taped out yet, which means that QA samples are at least 3 months after tape out, and the finished product is 6-9 months away. Remember that GP104 was finished in development and taped out in ~June 2015.

Finishing development can mean tape out and production has been completed and it is close to release to the consumer.
AMD have something cooking that beats a 1080 and it's only 4Gb.
I've been seeing a few FS benches come through like this one in Icestorm.
http://www.3dmark.com/is/3839964?_ga=1.71611927.507117041.1462523653

rtwjunkie · Jun 27, 2016

efikkan said:
It's not a matter of view, Vega 10 is going to be bigger than Vega 11 like with Polaris. Even the Polaris specs in that forum post is wrong.

A few days ago we got information that Vega is soon finishing development. So the final design is not even taped out yet, which means that QA samples are at least 3 months after tape out, and the finished product is 6-9 months away. Remember that GP104 was finished in development and taped out in ~June 2015.

I was talking about the timelines, not Vega 10 or 11 being bigger.

ensabrenoir · Jun 27, 2016

Let the shell games begin!
1.Hype a new launch-greatest thing since slice bread!!!!!!
2.Press release the NEXT new launch after About to be launched-Lays Golden eggs!!!!!!!!!
3.First "new" launch arrives- incremental increase over current product with racing stripes!!!!!!
4.Heavily hype Next upcoming new launch-what the first launch should've been, we got it right this time!!!
5.Repeat.

Totally miss behaving.....THIS APPLIES TO BOTH AMD AND NVIDIA cause you know titans and ti's are around the corner....

corsaro · Jun 27, 2016

btarunr said:
AMD Radeon Technologies Group (RTG) chief Raja Koduri was in Shanghai last week to meet with one of the design teams of the "Polaris10" and the upcoming "Vega10." He tweeted that development of "Vega10" had just crossed a milestone, although it's a long way to go before you can see it. The 5th generation Graphics CoreNext architecture, and successor to the upcoming "Polaris" architecture, "Vega" promises a higher performance/Watt than "Polaris," which in turn boasts of a large energy efficiency leap over its predecessor.

One of the most notable derivatives of "Vega" is the "Vega10," poised to be a performance-segment GPU, which will make it to the market alongside "Vega11," a larger enthusiast-segment chip. The Vega10 is rumored to feature 4,096 stream processors spread across 64 compute units, and is expected to be a competitor to NVIDIA's GP104 silicon. The larger Vega11 could compete with larger chips based on the "Pascal" architecture, such as the GP102.

Isn't Vega 10 larger than Vega 11 like Polaris 10 vs Polaris 11 ? Why AMD change the name scheme with Vega?! I'm confused!

Nosada · Jun 27, 2016

bug said:
What a joke. So it doesn't do my laundry, after all.

Pfff, nVidia promises and promises, but I can still see that quiche stain in my bedspread!

Ungari · Jun 27, 2016

If stocks of 1080's are currently low, how long would it take for Titan/1080Ti to ramp up production after another paper launch?
Would Nvidia spoil future sales of 1080s by announcing Titan/1080Ti just to one-up-man-ship an early Vega release?
It's great to see this drama unfold as it can only mean better pricing for the consumer.

Caring1 · Jun 27, 2016

Nosada said:
Pfff, nVidia promises and promises, but I can still see that quiche stain in my bedspread!

Sure, blame the quiche :laugh:

HD64G · Jun 27, 2016

corsaro said:
Isn't Vega 10 larger than Vega 11 like Polaris 10 vs Polaris 11 ? Why AMD change the name scheme with Vega?! I'm confused!

Numbers don't depend on size but on date of chip making started. So, P11 will come after P10 and V11 after V10 but instead of P11 being smaller than P10, V11 will be the biggest of all.

RejZoR · Jun 27, 2016

I was already determined to skip this generation, but AMD got me all worked up with Vega. I mean, this will be the first proper HBM graphic card without the 4GB limit. And it'll feature GCN 5.0 shaders and god knows what other goodies not found on Polaris (RX480).

m1dg3t · Jun 27, 2016

I'm very excited to see AMDs new offerings, it seems as though things are starting click again! I'd very much like to build a new iTX box comprised of a zen & small vega combo. Really hoping MoBo mfgs will give some more attention to the enthusiast ITX'er looking to run an AMD CPU.

mastrdrver · Jun 27, 2016

bug said:
So now, not only do we know nothing about Vega10, we also don't know anything about this supposed milestone it just past.
Not the most informative piece of news, I have to admit.

Well if you take that Linkin leak for truth, then not only is Vega another 4096 shader monster, but it's also new IP (v9) than even Polaris as Polaris is of the Fury IP (v8). Maybe the IP upgrade will help make use of the substantial increase in bandwidth thanks to HBM2.

Nosada · Jun 27, 2016

Caring1 said:
Sure, blame the quiche

I don't know what my wife told you, but she's a filthy, dirty, sexy, little liar ...

ShurikN · Jun 27, 2016

RejZoR said:
I was already determined to skip this generation, but AMD got me all worked up with Vega. I mean, this will be the first proper HBM graphic card without the 4GB limit. And it'll feature GCN 5.0 shaders and god knows what other goodies not found on Polaris (RX480).

Will it tho? Would be great, but i'm doubtful.
EDIT
I mean, it says it is in the article, but to release a new arch in such a short time... hmmm

jaggerwild · Jun 27, 2016

Its all staged to milk us the consumers out of money, business. Create drama like on TV then we will battle back n fourth, blah blah blah

Legacy-ZA · Jun 27, 2016

Ungari said:
If stocks of 1080's are currently low, how long would it take for Titan/1080Ti to ramp up production after another paper launch?
Would Nvidia spoil future sales of 1080s by announcing Titan/1080Ti just to one-up-man-ship an early Vega release?
It's great to see this drama unfold as it can only mean better pricing for the consumer.

That's what they want you to believe. Another one for you nVidia / AMD, now slowly reel him/her in.

Relayer · Jun 28, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
I did see it!
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-pulls-radeon-vega-launch-to-october.222403/

If you follow TPU's source link all the way to the end it's not AMD confirming anything. It's this forum post.

I heard they showed Vega behind closed doors but suspect a combination of:

yield ramp of the large dies

HBM2 production ramp

So there was a rumor of working silicon and someone extrapolated an early release date.

http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=258604&postcount=69

rtwjunkie · Jun 28, 2016

Relayer said:
If you follow TPU's source link all the way to the end it's not AMD confirming anything. It's this forum post.

So there was a rumor of working silicon and someone extrapolated an early release date.

http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=258604&postcount=69

I did follow when I posted. If you read the rest of the thread you'll know i merely reported seeing the article, not that I was a fervent believer or anything.

It truly is ok to say where one saw sonething without people automatically believing that you are a believer in the information.

Relayer · Jun 28, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
I did follow when I posted. If you read the rest of the thread you'll know i merely reported seeing the article, not that I was a fervent believer or anything.

It truly is ok to say where one saw sonething without people automatically believing that you are a believer in the information.

It was just called confirmed by AMD though. I don't recall by whom even. So nothing personal.

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