Where is all the 1080p IPS G-Sync screens?

[Shou Miko]

I have start to wonder if we will ever start to see 24inch 1080p IPS screen with G-Sync in that do 120~144hz?

Bcs all monitors I can find uses with 1080p that have G-Sync is using a VA or TN panel and it's for sure should be possible to do that bcs Asus pushes their ROG Swift PG278Q at 144hz with 1ms refresh rate at 1440p and Acer with their Predator XB270HU with 144hz at 4ms refresh rate for 1440p so a 1080p IPS panel at 1~5mhz with G-Sync in my mind doesn't sound completely unreal.

Why I am thinking about this is bcs more and more ppl states that after going beyond 24inch their rating in multiplayer games has gone down even I noticed if I connect my 21,5inch 1080p WLED monitor I have I do better at online games than with my 27inch could be that 27inch is just too big for competitive gaming?

 

[Vayra86]

G Sync was dead when it was born.

FreeSync exists and is here to stay.

High performance gaming rigs dont need either of them, what you really want is strobing backlight and high refresh at high FPS. At high refresh/fps, sync is irrelevant and strobe makes motion resolution really good. Put the Gsync money into GPU grunt, get a decent high refresh rate monitor without Gsync and you're golden.

About competitive play; Gsync doesn't play a part in this either. You DONT want any interference in your frame delivery by the GPU at all - no Vsync, no adaptive, and no Gsync - and you would prefer a lower resolution and screen size to a higher one. So again: the best monitors here are low-latency, high refresh rate monitors running your game at 100+ FPS, and a pipeline that is as clean as possible, so no frame limiting either.

 

[Shou Miko]

G Sync was dead when it was born.

FreeSync exists and is here to stay.

High performance gaming rigs dont need either of them, what you really want is strobing backlight and high refresh at high FPS. At high refresh/fps, sync is irrelevant and strobe makes motion resolution really good. Put the Gsync money into GPU grunt, get a decent high refresh rate monitor without Gsync and you're golden.

About competitive play; Gsync doesn't play a part in this either. You DONT want any interference in your frame delivery by the GPU at all - no Vsync, no adaptive, and no Gsync - and you would prefer a lower resolution and screen size to a higher one. So again: the best monitors here are low-latency, high refresh rate monitors running your game at 100+ FPS, and a pipeline that is as clean as possible, so no frame limiting either.

Problem for Freesync is Nvidia won't support it and I don't think u will get Nvidia to go Freesync as long as AMD is using it that's the problem.

It's more the size of the screen it self most of the pros do 21,5~24inch even in competitions and so bcs they should be so much better.

 

[INSTG8R]

No I'm with him. I have a Freesync monitor. It's a gimmick that only matters when you're frame limited. It's also 144hz so that is more important/useful.

 

[RejZoR]

Problem for Freesync is Nvidia won't support it and I don't think u will get Nvidia to go Freesync as long as AMD is using it that's the problem.

It's more the size of the screen it self most of the pros do 21,5~24inch even in competitions and so bcs they should be so much better.

Lol, FreeSync isn't a proprietary tech like G-Sync. Anyone can use it, but NVIDIA's pride is too big to support it. NVIDIA, never change...

 

[qurotro]

all I want is 1080p IPS 144Mhz....

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Has anyone even tested a FreeSync monitor on a Pascal card yet? Technically, Pascal cards should be able to drive FreeSync monitors because of DisplayPort 1.4 and HDMI 2.0b. I suspect Pascal's driver support for adaptive sync is immature though so you'd get a better experience with an AMD card.

 

[Xzibit]

Has anyone even tested a FreeSync monitor on a Pascal card yet? Technically, Pascal cards should be able to drive FreeSync monitors because of DisplayPort 1.3. I suspect Pascal's driver support for adaptive sync is immature though so you'd get a better experience with an AMD card.

Remember Pascal cards are only DP 1.2 certified and DP 1.3 & 1.4 ready. I suspect its like that because if they were certified anything above that they would have to handle Adaptive-Sync and all that would be left is driver side implementation.

More then likely they just don't want to give their users that option in-order to drive them to a more costly option.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

VESA's website mostly just shows workstation graphics cards and it doesn't give any details about the standard they're certified to. I've been looking to find more information and I've come up blank.

NVIDIA's website clearly shows DisplayPort 1.4. If what you say is true, there's a case to be made against NVIDIA for false advertising.

Edit: I'm not seeing any mention of DisplayPort 1.2 in connection with Pascal. Like Polaris, it's officially 1.3 and 1.4 ready (because the specification isn't official yet). This means FreeSync monitors should work on Pascal cards.

Someone who has access to a Pascal card and a FreeSync monitor could easily test.

 

[cdawall]

all I want is 1080p IPS 144Mhz....

Buy a 1440P 144hz IPS and move on.

 

[Shou Miko]

Buy a 1440P 144hz IPS and move on.

U gonna tell that to all the competitive gamers that go to all the big challenges around the world that do 1080p and do best on a 24inch screen?

We r seeing the same with smartphone bigger is better, and before smartphones we saw ur cellphones getting smaller and smaller then we hit the smartphones they were small and now bigger and bigger.


This here is basically me wondering where they r since it doesn't sound like it's impossible to add G-Sync bcs there r 1080p IPS with 144hz at 1ms out there it's just op to Nvidia to make the model so it can be added or the manufacturers to make the screens.

 

[cdawall]

U gonna tell that to all the competitive gamers that go to all the big challenges around the world that do 1080p and do best on a 24inch screen?

We r seeing the same with smartphone bigger is better, and before smartphones we saw ur cellphones getting smaller and smaller then we hit the smartphones they were small and now bigger and bigger.


This here is basically me wondering where they r since it doesn't sound like it's impossible to add G-Sync bcs there r 1080p IPS with 144hz at 1ms out there it's just op to Nvidia to make the model so it can be added or the manufacturers to make the screens.

Competitive gamers don't use gsync? Also at 1ms we are talking TN not IPS, plenty of those exist.

 

[jboydgolfer]

U gonna tell that to all the competitive gamers that go to all the big challenges around the world that do 1080p and do best on a 24inch screen?

We r seeing the same with smartphone bigger is better, and before smartphones we saw ur cellphones getting smaller and smaller then we hit the smartphones they were small and now bigger and bigger.


This here is basically me wondering where they r since it doesn't sound like it's impossible to add G-Sync bcs there r 1080p IPS with 144hz at 1ms out there it's just op to Nvidia to make the model so it can be added or the manufacturers to make the screens.

are you a competitive gamer? is that why you are searching for the monitor type in the title?

either way, if you need a 1080p High refresh rate monitor ,W/ Gstink, you will likely need to sacrifice your panel preference, or Your refresh rate, it seems as tho the type Your speaking of is not available, so I would just pick the area You CAN sacrifice in, and go with the best option that closest fits your wants. Many monitors unofficially overclock, maybe you can find one that does, and go that route?
btw, any responses on Your Nvidia thread?? it looked dead last time i looked

Sadly this one is the closest it seems to get to what You want....

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1098333-REG/aoc_led_monitor_g2460pg.html

or if your willing to give up on the 1080p part, you can go with....

THIS

it seems like manufacturers are banking on the fact that gamers will be moving up from 1080p , but it is still by far the commonplace, so it only seems reasonable for them to start making High refresh rate 1080p units....

 

[Shou Miko]

@jboydgolfer
I am just saying that I noticed going back to my smaller screen I do a better gameplay in multiplayer games, and I prefer IPS bcs it looks better and I don't like going back to a TN or VA panel if I can avoid it.

@cdawall
there r IPS panels at 1ms otherwise u r saying the manufactures r lying about ur products they r making?

 

[cdawall]

there r IPS panels at 1ms otherwise u r saying the manufactures r lying about ur products they r making?

Mind showing me one? i can show you dozens of 4/5ms response time ones and those are already walking into the $700+ range from reputable companies.

 

[Shou Miko]

Mind showing me one? i can show you dozens of 4/5ms response time ones and those are already walking into the $700+ range from reputable companies.

Asus' ROG Swift is spec'ed to be 1ms

Link: https://www.asus.com/uk/Monitors/ROG_SWIFT_PG278Q/specifications/

Response Time : 1ms (Gray to Gray)

WQHD resolution sadly no 24inch Full-hd

 

[INSTG8R]

Asus' ROG Swift is spec'ed to be 1ms

Link: https://www.asus.com/uk/Monitors/ROG_SWIFT_PG278Q/specifications/

Response Time : 1ms (Gray to Gray)

WQHD resolution sadly no 24inch Full-hd

I have the Freesync version of that monitor. It's fantastic.

 

[Slizzo]

The 278 is a TN panel. The 279 is an IPS screen.

 

[Shou Miko]

The 278 is a TN panel. The 279 is an IPS screen.

Ty no monitor expert I remember more cpu, mobo, ram, gfx what's needed for different things.

well than the 279 has 4ms still really good for a IPS with 165hz.

 

[cdawall]

Asus' ROG Swift is spec'ed to be 1ms

Link: https://www.asus.com/uk/Monitors/ROG_SWIFT_PG278Q/specifications/

Response Time : 1ms (Gray to Gray)

WQHD resolution sadly no 24inch Full-hd

Yup and TN...

 

[qurotro]

Buy a 1440P 144hz IPS and move on.

The price are ridiculous high... and not pretty much choices though...that's why I still living with my U2312...

 

[INSTG8R]

The 278 is a TN panel. The 279 is an IPS screen.

Right! Sorry, still an awesome panel.

 

[arbiter]

G Sync was dead when it was born.
FreeSync exists and is here to stay.

Problem for Freesync is Nvidia won't support it and I don't think u will get Nvidia to go Freesync as long as AMD is using it that's the problem.

Lol, FreeSync isn't a proprietary tech like G-Sync. Anyone can use it, but NVIDIA's pride is too big to support it. NVIDIA, never change...

Problem though, g-sync works up to refresh hz of monitor. Freesync on other hand you need to check the monitor as to eliminate ghost can limit monitor. asus has 2 monitors PG278Q and MG279Q. One is g-sync and can do 144hz+, freesync one with it off can do 144hz, turn freesync on 90hz max. Some monitor makers do allow full rate but ghost does happen where on g-sync it you can't see it.
G-sync is far from dead as in terms of working like it should its still a good 1-2 years ahead of where freesync is.

I have the Freesync version of that monitor. It's fantastic.

as above i will also point out the freesync version "FreeSync™ technology supported (35Hz-90Hz)"

Has anyone even tested a FreeSync monitor on a Pascal card yet? Technically, Pascal cards should be able to drive FreeSync monitors because of DisplayPort 1.4 and HDMI 2.0b.

NVIDIA's website clearly shows DisplayPort 1.4. If what you say is true, there's a case to be made against NVIDIA for false advertising.
Edit: I'm not seeing any mention of DisplayPort 1.2 in connection with Pascal. Like Polaris, it's officially 1.3 and 1.4 ready (because the specification isn't official yet). This means FreeSync monitors should work on Pascal cards..

If i remember right adaptive sync is an OPTIONAL part of the spec not required.

Ty no monitor expert I remember more cpu, mobo, ram, gfx what's needed for different things.
well than the 279 has 4ms still really good for a IPS with 165hz.

there is also Acer XB271HU which is same panel as the asus one.

 

[INSTG8R]

Yes the Freesync I rarely use actually just in heavier games like GTA V, Division and TW3. Otherwise I'm shooting for 144hz but 90 is still more than enough

 

[Shou Miko]

there is also Acer XB271HU which is same panel as the asus one.

Yeh when we talk 27 inch just wish there was 24 inches bcs these big once cost more then i am willing to pay for a monitor and i am thinking about stepping down to a 24 inch.