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So GTX 1060 is the best price/perf card it seems?

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At least the smaller die size means they're pulling more usable asics per wafer, for a rush job there seems to be a decent availability of 1060s. There are already partner cards all over the place and not sold out, either points to lots of stock or slow sales figures. Compared to the 480 which is three weeks out from launch, still no AIBs and the reference cards are perpetually out of stock, this is going to be a messy summer for both sides.
 
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At least the smaller die size means they're pulling more usable asics per wafer, for a rush job there seems to be a decent availability of 1060s. There are already partner cards all over the place and not sold out, either points to lots of stock or slow sales figures..

But the dirty little secret is that the partner cards have no stock available either, which suggests there aren't enough chips out of the pipeline. This is a Paper Launch again.
 
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But the dirty little secret is that the partner cards have no stock available either, which suggests there aren't enough chips out of the pipeline. This is a Paper Launch again.

Cursory glance shows two of the fifteen release aibs in stock on newegg. We will see how it progresses throughout the week, and whether stock comes in and is maintained.
 

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Thanks nvidia for making cards more exspensive and for dropping sli :mad: :cry:
Quality means more $$$$$:p
SLI?
This time i will pass, a nice 1080 would be more than enough:slap:
 
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Quality means more $$$$$:p
SLI?
This time i will pass, a nice 1080 would be more than enough:slap:

Die size on the cards is down 20-30%, that means more gpus per wafer, and more profit per gpu assuming they get decent yields. All signs point to it costing them less to make the cards overall. 1060 should be dirt cheap given how many you can fit on a wafer. Increasing the price doesn't really fit with any of that.
 
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Well here all the time. :) Yeah I have missed that I admit. It's not as fast as RX480 so I guess my prediction was right that NVIDIA wanted to match the performance RX480 with its 1060 to reach for mid range market of video cards. I would like to see the final pricing for the card. The range put on the web page you linked is over 50$ and still more than RX480.

Wait for RX 490!
Maybe AMD will eventually release something like RX490 with better performance :) I'd like that :D More stuff then better. :)
 

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Wow what a big step, going from Nvidia to AMD:p

Am i been sarcastict?:nutkick:
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Wait for RX 490!
most at this point expect that to be a Fury X rebrand. So no need to wait, you can overpay for that card right now.
 
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most at this point expect that to be a Fury X rebrand. So no need to wait, you can overpay for that card right now.

Most?
I haven't seen that rumor,---link?
 
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Wait, just wait aaand wait another year to upgrade.... LOL :p
 
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you'd have to hit up reddit to get on the latest, alot of the 490 rumors came out prior to the 460 and 470 announcements. We do know that aside from the 480 there were only going to be 2 other finfet gpu's this year. Then they annouce two lower end cards. We also know that the 490 is likely to be released in 2016 so it won't be a vega card.

Some have taken this as a sign that this will mirror the AMD 4000 series where the 4870 and 4850 came out and didn't quite knock your socks off, then they released the dual gpu 4970.
as is the case here
http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-490-mystery-4k-gaming-gpu-listed-sapphire/

while their reddit threads are many, most of the responses are rebuttals of it being a dual gpu card.
Also some have claimed the 490 is vega, but timing and naming doesn't support that. Vega is expected to bear the RX 5xx naming scheme.

Others have seen the small timeline and how dual RX 480's still can't compete with the 1080 as a sign that amd will just stick with fury and rebrand so they can put more effort into vega.

so maybe "most" was overstated, but truly I would not expect anything spectacular. Expect Vega to be the next time amd tries to be competitive.
 
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Others have seen the small timeline and how dual RX 480's still can't compete with the 1080

I don't know what benchmarks you were looking at but RX 480 has similar or better performance to a single GTX 1080 according to what I've read.
 

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I don't know what benchmarks you were looking at but RX 480 has similar or better performance to a single GTX 1080 according to what I've read.
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You should read a little bit more:

Are two RX 480s faster than a single GTX 1080?

I love a good PR stunt or outlandish claim as much as the next guy. You know the type—where a company decides that the best way to tell people about a new product is to slaughter a few goats and serve fake entrails up to guests or to declare that a certain developer is going to make you his bitch. Imagine my delight, then, when AMD's Raja Koduri took to the stage during the unveiling of the RX 480 to say that, with two of them in Crossfire, they were faster than Nvidia's GTX 1080 and would cost far less. Everyone was intrigued.

Here's the thing about making bold claims involving competitor products, though: you'd better be damn sure those claims stand up under scrutiny. Sooner or later, someone will actually test it.
With the RX 480 in shops and the initial batch of press reviews near universally declaring it an excellent graphics card for the budget-minded gamer (something I agreed with too), it's time to put AMD's bold claims to the test. Are two AMD RX 480s faster than a GTX 1080?

In a word: no. In fact, they're not even faster than a GTX 1070 in many games. To be fair to AMD, though, the company only ever said that two RX 480s were faster than a GTX 1080 in one game, under specific settings. So let's start with that one.

According to a Reddit AMA with AMD's Robert Hallock, AMD ran version 1.12.19928 of the game Ashes of the Singularity under DirectX 12 at 1080p and multi-GPU enabled with crazy settings, 8X MSAA enabled, and v-sync off during its benchmark. Hallock also detailed the system specs, which included an Intel i7 5930K, 32GB of 2400Mhz DDR4 memory, and Windows 10 64-bit.

The result? According to AMD, Ashes of the Singularity ran at 62.5FPS on the AMD cards and 58.7FPS on the GTX 1080.

While I can't replicate the exact same setup as AMD during its testing—I have a newer version of the RX 480 driver, for instance—I can get pretty close. The Ars UK test system just so happens to be based on a 5930K processor with 32GB of DDR4 memory. I even have access to the same Nvidia beta driver. With that in mind, I ran the benchmarks on the GTX 1080 several times using both the old driver and the new driver, the latter to better represent the experience consumers have with the Nvidia card right now.

The result on the Ars UK rig? 55.2FPS to the dual RX 480s and 57.2 to the GTX 1080. So it's close—very close. But no matter how much I tried, I couldn't get the dual RX 480 setup close to the 62.5FPS figure that AMD quoted during its stage presentation. Weirdly with the newer Nvidia driver, its score actually goes down, this time to 54.9FPS. It effectively matches the frame rate of the RX 480.

Either way, while buying two RX 480s and running them together in a very specific setup might get you close to GTX 1080 performance, they're aren't faster.

How does dual RX 480s fare in other tests?
Widening out the dual RX 480 tests to include Crossfire in other games and benchmarks throws up some interesting results. Again, to be clear, AMD never claimed that two RX 480s would be faster than a GTX 1080 in anything other than Ashes of the Singularity, but it is interesting to see Crossfire performance nonetheless. In 3DMark, for instance, the dual 480s are five percent slower than a single GTX 1080, the gap shrinking slightly to just over two percent at 4K. In Metro Last Light, the RX 480s are 17 percent slower than a GTX 1080 at 1080p, with the gap shrinking to around five percent at 4K.
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I meant to say that RX 480 in Crossfire was equivalent or better performance to a single GTX 1080.
 

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I meant to say that RX 480 in Crossfire was equivalent or better performance to a single GTX 1080.
I edited my post, read once againg:D
 
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That's fine, BUT when it comes to Real life gaming the right now in 75% of all Games CF is NOT working properly, but I'm sure when DK12/Vulcan is more used this this percentage will fall.
 
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That's fine, BUT when it comes to Real life gaming the right now in 75% of all Games CF is NOT working properly, but I'm sure when DK12/Vulcan is more used this this percentage will fall.
SLI for the GTX 1060 is 100% not working ;)
 
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SLI for the GTX 1060 is 100% not working ;)

I just saw an interesting test with 1060x2 using the PCI lanes in DX12 to pseudo-SLI them.
They beat the single 1080 easily in everything.
 
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Yes I posted that earlier so 100% not working is not correct..... ;)
 
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Some have taken this as a sign that this will mirror the AMD 4000 series where the 4870 and 4850 came out and didn't quite knock your socks off, then they released the dual gpu 4970.
Wasn't it a HD4870x2? :p I will never forget that one as it was loudest thing i ever owned in my life, including hoovers :D
 
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Wasn't it a HD4870x2? :p I will never forget that one as it was loudest thing i ever owned in my life, including hoovers :D
my bad. 5970 was the first without the X2. lol
 
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@Knoxx29

Those benchmarks are so different from what I've seen, that I have to call Bravo Sierra on the tester.
This suggests the work of a paid shill.
 
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