Xeon Owners Club

[Recon-UK]

LMAO, well you have a mind like me it seems

 

[silkstone]

H 100 and Wendys knicker elastic

it kept my CPU cool but my Wifes pants didnt fall down as i had hoped.

That pic needs to go in the Ghetto mod thread too!

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/ghetto-mods.55387/page-83#post-3403929

 

[basco]

but my Wifes pants didnt fall down as i had hoped
that my my day-thanks

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

but my Wifes pants didnt fall down as i had hoped
that my my day-thanks

 

[Fouquin]

Finally decided to push it to 4.3GHz. Sucks down an extra 40W under load but the performance scaled pretty nicely so I won't complain.

Edit: Fixed the vDroop in Cinebench with a quick timing adjustment. Weird issue. Proper score is in the thumbnail up there.

 

[silkstone]

What temp would you all recommend on the old 45nm xeons? From memory, 75 C was a good limit, but I get slightly over that when pushing my E3110 to 4ghz.

I just upgraded my cooler from stock to this http://www.idcooling.com/Product/detail/id/47/name/SE-90

I know it's cheap, but spending lots of cash on my htpc kinda defeats the purpose.

 

[FireFox]

What temp would you all recommend on the old 45nm xeons?

Simple answer: lower is better

 

[Recon-UK]

Oh guys something odd.... and has only happened with this CPU and setup, i have since moved all my x58 Pro into a much smaller chassis, as i wanted to downsize but have not bought the case i wanted yet. Well it all went well and now here is the oddity, i see a huge drop in max load temps from my Silverstone, the case is a Xigmatex UTguard but is missing a side panel, no issue obviously.
I am really surprised honestly as my RV02-BW is class leading in cooling... apparently...

 

[glitchmaster0001]

how much do you think i can sell my X58 PC build for without the GPU and HDD? here are the specs

System Specifications:

CPU: Intel Xeon X5650 OC to @3.6GHz
Motherboard: ASUS P6T X58 Motherboard
RAM: 12GB DDR3
Cooling: Intel i7 Extreme Edition Heatsink LGA 1366
PSU: Rosewell Green 430w PSU
Case: Antec Plusview 1000 AMG
Optical Drive: Sony DVD-RW/CD-RW Drive
Card Reader: HP SD Card Reader

Since i know that an Xeon X5650 overclocked to 3.6GHz is essentially almost identical to an i7 3960x at stock speeds and on par (give or take 5%) with an i7 5820k at stock speeds would $400 for the PC sound like a fair price? $400 is the same price it costs to buy a i7 5820k CPU alone. and last I checked, you can't build anything that has the power of a i7 5820k with all new parts for $400 so i think this is a fair price. what do you guys think about it? i also know that my specific X58 board goes on eBay for around $200 alone...

 

[FireFox]

You are selling the Machine with the case and psu included?
If so the price is more than acceptable.
BTW here in Germany a X5650 on ebay cost around 65€/80€, the Motherboard 190€/210€, if i am not wrong you are just removing the HDD and GPU, am i right?

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Your X5650 is still a X5650 regardless of the o/c ..............its not an i7 3960x so you cant correlate these prices.




Here is my X5650 at 4.5ghz

its still a £ 40.00 - 50.00 cpu despite matching (on paper ) i7 6700k or similar at £ 300.00

spend 5 minutes on ebay and you will get a rough idea of what you will get and dont forget the sellers fees. i would suggest selling the parts individually.

 

[glitchmaster0001]

You are selling the Machine with the case and psu included?
If so the price is more than acceptable.
BTW here in Germany a X5650 on ebay cost around 65€/80€, the Motherboard 190€/210€, if i am not wrong you are just removing the HDD and GPU, am i right?

Yeah I'm just removing my Gtx 760 and my 1tb HDD out of the tower and selling the PC. True the CPU isn't an i7 3960x at the end of the day even when overclocked but it's still comes close to one though. And like I said, I doubt you can build something brand new that comes close to the power of a 3960x/5820k for $400. I know that X58 Boards are expensive and have high resale value but I don't want to deal with the headache of parting out the PC and selling individually even though i would make more money off it that way. I'd rather just sell the PC for a reasonable price and be done with it considering I paid next to nothing to build it. I think I paid $125 total to build this PC. Plus people on Craigslist are cheap asses so most likely I'd have to market the PC there for $500 and say that I'm open to "negotiation" but anything under $400 is unreasonable. I aim to make at least $400 off the PC.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

I think I paid $125 total to build this PC. Plus people on Craigslist are cheap asses so most likely I'd have to market the PC there for $500 and say that I'm open to "negotiation" but anything under $400 is unreasonable. I aim to make at least $400 off the PC.

anything less than trebling your outlay would be unreasonable ?

You should work for Apple...

 

[Recon-UK]

I could see someone buying it based on the output performance, i mean i spoke with the chap on LTT in PM, i just don't know thw USA market so i could not give a solid answer.

 

[glitchmaster0001]

Your X5650 is still a X5650 regardless of the o/c ..............its not an i7 3960x so you cant correlate these prices.

Here is my X5650 at 4.5ghz

its still a £ 40.00 - 50.00 cpu despite matching (on paper ) i7 6700k or similar at £ 300.00

spend 5 minutes on ebay and you will get a rough idea of what you will get and dont forget the sellers fees. i would suggest selling the parts individually.

thats like AMD comparing 2 of thier RX 480 in crossfire vs a single Gtx 1080 in ashes of singularity. Yes the dual RX 480s are faster than the single Gtx 1080 but there is a big cost difference. $400 vs $700, at the end of the day the dual RX 480s aren't a Gtx 1080 but they sure do perform close to one for much less $$$. Most people care about value for money. Not everyone wants to spend $400 alone just on a single 2x1 inch piece of PCB...

 

[glitchmaster0001]

anything less than trebling your outlay would be unreasonable ?

You should work for Apple...

well think about it.. I was lucky that I was able to pick up the most expensive part of the build for just $20 thus shaving down the build cost significantly. But if you were to not account that then the board would cost $200, plus the CPU $50, plus the 12gb ddr3 $50, plus the cooler $10, plus the PSU $20 plus the case for $10. Total for just parts if i was not able to get a good ass deal on the board would be roughly $340 then you have to account for the labor of building the PC and testing to make sure everything is working. If people are buying custom built PCs on CL chances are they don't know how to build it themselves...

 

[Caring1]

well think about it.. I was lucky that I was able to pick up the most expensive part of the build for just $20 thus shaving down the build cost significantly. But if you were to not account that then the board would cost $200, plus the CPU $50, plus the 12gb ddr3 $50, plus the cooler $10, plus the PSU $20 plus the case for $10. Total for just parts if i was not able to get a good ass deal on the board would be roughly $340 then you have to account for the labor of building the PC and testing to make sure everything is working. If people are buying custom built PCs on CL chances are they don't know how to build it themselves...

That's like totaling up the price of the parts in a car, and trying to sell it for that sum. You will only sell a complete sytem for what others are willing to pay, not what you think it is worth.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

thats like AMD comparing 2 of thier RX 480 in crossfire vs a single Gtx 1080 in ashes of singularity. Yes the dual RX 480s are faster than the single Gtx 1080 but there is a big cost difference. $400 vs $700, at the end of the day the dual RX 480s aren't a Gtx 1080 but they sure do perform close to one for much less $$$. Most people care about value for money. Not everyone wants to spend $400 alone just on a single 2x1 inch piece of PCB...

thats not a good comparison to make.

then you have to account for the labor of building the PC and testing to make sure everything is working. If people are buying custom built PCs on CL chances are they don't know how to build it themselves...

and then try to sell it without GPU and no onboard video output to someone who cant build a pc?


you might do better adding a cheap GTX 970 ( or similar) and selling it as a working ( tested) gaming pc.

 

[glitchmaster0001]

That's like totaling up the price of the parts in a car, and trying to sell it for that sum. You will only sell a complete sytem for what others are willing to pay, not what you think it is worth.

well would you pay $400 alone for a single 2x1 piece of PCB or pay the same amount for a PC with near identical power of the $400 2x1 piece of PCB give or take 5%.

 

[FireFox]

its still a £ 40.00 - 50.00 cpu despite matching (on paper ) i7 6700k or similar at £ 300.00

Nah, don't compare a 6700K with a X5650 unless you're talking about clock speed, in any case a 6700K is 4.0GHz stock and 4.2GHz turbo boost.

 

[FireFox]

Yes the dual RX 480s are faster than the single Gtx 1080

Wrong too wrong, we have been talking about this for a long time, forget that urban legend about 2 x 480s are faster than a single 1080.

 

[glitchmaster0001]

you might do better adding a cheap GTX 970 ( or similar) and selling it as a working ( tested) gaming pc.

true but a Gtx 970 is expensive... They are not exactly cheap used as of now where I'm at. I can just put a cheap basic video card with it just to get the PC to work and from there they can upgrade to whatever they want. The aim of it is to sell as a versatile platform since the CPU is great with both workstation and gaming applications I've sold PCs on CL before and 90% of the time I get messages from people asking me if they can get a discount if I sell it to them without the GPU. So now I guess I'll just pair it with a basic gpu just to get a image at the screen. The hdd is something I don't really trust selling used due to security reasons.

 

[glitchmaster0001]

Wrong too wrong, we have been talking about this for a long time, forget that urban legend about 2 x 480s are faster than a single 1080.

it's only faster in games that heavily support and have optimization for crossfire. Like ashes of singularity. Other than that a single faster card is always superior

 

[FireFox]

it's only faster in games

Wrong once again