Xeon Owners Club

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

we all love the old Xeons and we all like to make a financial comparison between what we paid and the potential compared to more recent cpus.

My X5670 cost me 70.00 when it was a 2.9ghz chip.....its still worth 70.00 even if i have o/c ed it to 4.6.....it hasnt suddenly magiced into a 300.00 cpu.

@glitchmaster0001
its very difficult to value the work you put in to the build ......i do it for fun as i expect you did when you built the pc.

 

[glitchmaster0001]

Nah, don't compare a 6700K with a X5650 unless you're talking about clock speed, in any case a 6700K is 4.0GHz stock and 4.2GHz turbo boost.

Yea I agree with that. Comparing x5650 with i7 3960x is reasonable because its built on the same process node and the x5650 is only 1 gen behind. 3960x is sandy bridge e and x5650 is Westmere ep plus both have 6 core 12 threads

 

[Recon-UK]

Well this is getting off track real fast.

Simply put i think you can sell it at above average cost as an enire build to someone, you need to make it clear it is overclocked and tuned, it performs similar to a STOCK XXXXX

My E5640 is beating the 3960X at stock clocks in single thread by a big run until you clock the 3960X to 4G's and then it's on par with my chip at 4.46ghz.
See Sandy can clock way higher too close to 5ghz without much stress at all.

 

[FireFox]

 

[glitchmaster0001]

Wrong once again

Keyword game optimization and crossfire support... AOS being a game that has lots of crossfire support and optimizations. Did you not see the AMD live demo at computex in Taiwan this year?

 

[glitchmaster0001]

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[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Keyword game optimization and crossfire support... AOS being a game that has lots of crossfire support and optimizations. Did you not see the AMD live demo at computex in Taiwan this year?

this has turned into 2 different threads.

This is the Xeon owners club

NOT

the two versus one gpu debate

 

[glitchmaster0001]

we all love the old Xeons and we all like to make a financial comparison between what we paid and the potential compared to more recent cpus.

My X5670 cost me 70.00 when it was a 2.9ghz chip.....its still worth 70.00 even if i have o/c ed it to 4.6.....it hasnt suddenly magiced into a 300.00 cpu.

@glitchmaster0001

its very difficult to value the work you put in to the build ......i do it for fun as i expect you did when you built the pc.

But you can though, it's called value for money. $60 CPU when overclocked matches performance of $400 CPU at stock speeds. You do the math in how much performance per dollar you pay and see which one is higher... Sure if you overclock the $400 CPU it's obviously going to be faster but is it worth that extra $$$ for the higher performance? To some people yes. However, to some that are on a really strict budget I don't think so.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

But you can though, it's called value for money. $60 CPU when overclocked matches performance of $400 CPU at stock speeds. You do the math in how much performance per dollar you pay and see which one is higher... Sure if you overclock the $400 CPU it's obviously going to be faster but is it worth that extra $$$ for the higher performance? To some people yes. However, to some that are on a really strict budget I don't think so.

i know and that is exactly why i like them. I have owned several socket 1366 cpus so you are preaching to the converted here...



when my X5670 was new it cost $ 1440
http://ark.intel.com/products/47920/Intel-Xeon-Processor-X5670-12M-Cache-2_93-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI

today in the US they are $ 89.00
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-...295831?hash=item1a114b4757:g:w3kAAOSwgApXBBNL


i could liken it to an i7 whatever if i wanted to but its still a $ 89.00 cpu

 

[glitchmaster0001]

i know and that is exactly why i like them. I have owned several socket 1366 cpus so you are preaching to the converted here...



when my X5670 was new it cost $ 1440
http://ark.intel.com/products/47920/Intel-Xeon-Processor-X5670-12M-Cache-2_93-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI

today in the US they are $ 89.00
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-...295831?hash=item1a114b4757:g:w3kAAOSwgApXBBNL


i could liken it to an i7 whatever if i wanted to but its still a $ 89.00 cpu

yes the face value of it is still $89 but the performance value of it sure as hell ain't no $89 FX 6300 budget CPU...

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

yes the face value of it is still $89 but the performance value of it sure as hell ain't no $89 FX 6300 budget CPU...

agreed.

My X5670 scored 1035 at R15

this guy got 1035 with his 6700k

In the UK today a X5670 is 70 quid.................. a 6700k is 280.00..........


but....as many will tell you, the architectures dont compare so we are comparing dried up raisins with plump fresh grapes.....

 

[glitchmaster0001]

agreed.

My X5670 scored 1035 at R15

this guy got 1035 with his 6700k

In the UK today a X5670 is 70 quid.................. a 6700k is 280.00..........


but....as many will tell you, the architectures dont compare so we are comparing dried up raisins with plump fresh grapes.....

yea true but the dried rasians show so much value per dollar you pay. Wow $280 for a 6700k? I live 20 mins away from Intels headquarters and we pay $400 for the 6700k....

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Wow $280 for a 6700k

£ 280.00

sorry i didnt make that clear.


the i7 is 4 times the price of the X 5670 in the UK

 

[FireFox]

agreed.

My X5670 scored 1035 at R15

this guy got 1035 with his 6700k

In the UK today a X5670 is 70 quid.................. a 6700k is 280.00..........


but....as many will tell you, the architectures dont compare so we are comparing dried up raisins with plump fresh grapes.....

You have 6 cores, he has 4 cores, your Xeon is overclocked at 4.5GHz his 6700K os running at stock, Xeon are better for rendering, CineBench it's kinda a rendering tester software.

 

[glitchmaster0001]

You have 6 cores, he has 4 cores, your Xeon is overclocked at 4.5GHz his 6700K os running at stock, Xeon are better for rendering, CineBench it's kinda a rendering tester software.

his is running at 4.8ghz on the i7 6700k look in the CPUz it's more accurate and doesn't lie.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

You have 6 cores, he has 4 cores, your Xeon is overclocked at 4.5GHz his 6700K os running at stock, Xeon are better for rendering, CineBench it's kinda a rendering tester software.

i found a chip that scored the same as mine at R 15 and used that, and the price as a comparison.

if i was to compare it with the i 7 3960x like glitch suggested.........i can buy one of them for £ 150.00.

his is running at 4.8ghz on the i7 6700k look in the CPUz it's more accurate and doesn't lie.

not strictly speaking correct.

Look at the figures on the left...he ran the test at 4.01ghz. Just cos cpuz shows 4.8 it doesnt mean it will run the test at that speed.
Here is the submission
http://hwbot.org/submission/3007172_andapinchao_cinebench___r15_core_i7_6700k_1035_cb

 

[FireFox]

his is running at 4.8ghz

Sorry my bad, in any case 2 more cores for the Xeon make a significant impact.

 

[FireFox]

.he ran the test at 4.01ghz. Just cos cpuz shows 4.8 it doesnt mean it will run the test at that speed.

My mistake once again, you're right.

 

[dorsetknob]

TRUest words

You will only sell a complete sytem for what others are willing to pay, not what you think it is worth.

Same goes for Second hand parts

 

[glitchmaster0001]

i found a chip that scored the same as mine at R 15 and used that, and the price as a comparison.

if i was to compare it with the i 7 3960x like glitch suggested.........i can buy one of them for £ 150.00.





not strictly speaking correct.

Look at the figures on the left...he ran the test at 4.01ghz. Just cos cpuz shows 4.8 it doesnt mean it will run the test at that speed.
Here is the submission
http://hwbot.org/submission/3007172_andapinchao_cinebench___r15_core_i7_6700k_1035_cb

its because I care a lot about value for money when it comes to PCs. I grew up poor, So I know that I can't justify spending $400 on a 2x1 piece of PCB. If I see a $60 2x1 piece of PCB that can perform close enough to a $400 i7 5820k at stock speeds then I'd say the $60 CPU is a better buy nonetheless.

 

[glitchmaster0001]

TRUest words


Same goes for Second hand parts

Face value wise yes but performance wise this PC ain't no slacker or Pentium D junker if it can spar with a i7 3960x/5820k and stay within 5%

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Face value wise yes but performance wise this PC ain't no slacker or Pentium D junker if it can spar with a i7 3960x/5820k and stay within 5%

as a selling point yes....as a selling price point no.

The market rate is what you will get. Try your luck on TPU for sale thread....at least you wont pay sellers fees.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forums/buy-sell-trade-giveaway-forum.43/

 

[glitchmaster0001]

as a selling point yes....as a selling price point no.

The market rate is what you will get. Try your luck on TPU for sale thread....at least you wont pay sellers fees.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forums/buy-sell-trade-giveaway-forum.43/

im aiming at Craigslist in my local area. No one in my area is selling an x58 PC and every time I see one even marketed even at high prices it ends up getting sold. the demand for x58 boards are high but the supply of them out there is low. At Least not the cheap Chineseium ones you see on eBay for $80 new.

 

[dorsetknob]

you want to sell a X5650 SYSTEM or in parts you will get X5650 Prices any overclock mentioned or performance claims as regards to other systems is Advertising bullshit/Guff
to enhance your selling of a X5650 system
its as plain and simple as that

 

[glitchmaster0001]

you want to sell a X5650 SYSTEM or in parts you will get X5650 Prices any overclock mentioned or performance claims as regards to other systems is Advertising bullshit/Guff
to enhance your selling of a X5650 system
its as plain and simple as that

its not bullshit when there are solid evidence and benchmarks to back it up. Sure it's a $60 CPU but still performs like your $400 CPU at stock speeds when it is overclocked. Pretty phenomenal value for money if you ask me... A system that is on par with a CPU that costs $400 alone. That is just crazy.