Computer not booting when system fan plug is connected

Mussels · Aug 1, 2016

In his defence, very few cables inside a PC fit where they are not supposed to - a 4 pin PWM fan connector and a 4 pin floppy power connector can definitely look similar to a beginner - especially if they've never built a PC that actually had a floppy drive!

Caring1 · Aug 1, 2016

Some of the early AT PSU's had the 4 pin Floppy connector and another for something else, not that I can remember or ever used it.

Harry9001 · Aug 1, 2016

lol, whew guess that was a close call

Thanks for the help guys, and next time will remember not to attach things i don't know about

Mr.Scott · Aug 1, 2016

Mussels said:
In his defence, very few cables inside a PC fit where they are not supposed to - a 4 pin PWM fan connector and a 4 pin floppy power connector can definitely look similar to a beginner - especially if they've never built a PC that actually had a floppy drive!

They do make manuals for a reason you know.

Harry9001 · Aug 2, 2016

Mr.Scott said:
They do make manuals for a reason you know.

I did really both manuals, the mobo one doesn't say much and the psu one is kind of informative.
But i didn't read anywhere that i shouldnt connect the psu connector on those 4 sys_fan pins

Mussels · Aug 2, 2016

Harry9001 said:
I did really both manuals, the mobo one doesn't say much and the psu one is kind of informative.
But i didn't read anywhere that i shouldnt connect the psu connector on those 4 sys_fan pins

dont feel bad. We may all know better, but we've all made hilarious mistakes in the past too. At least nothing caught fire and the system still works afterwards.

eidairaman1 · Aug 4, 2016

Harry9001 said:
The last pic attached by @mrbluebumblebee is the connector I I'm talking about and the pins that emerge from the mobo are the perfect fit for it.

That's a floppy disk drive connector, that does not hook up to the motherboard.

dorsetknob · Aug 4, 2016

Mussels said:
In his defence,

he is probably to young to have seen a Floppy and its PSU power connector
( he was probably wearing Diapers when they were last mainstream fittings in PC's

)

I have an ATi AIW Radon 9800se that Requires a floppy power connection to power it

rtwjunkie · Aug 4, 2016

Harry9001 said:
lol, whew guess that was a close call

Thanks for the help guys, and next time will remember not to attach things i don't know about

LOL, everyone here has done dumb or accidentally funny stuff with their PC.

Just chalk it up to learning.

Harry9001 · Aug 4, 2016

dorsetknob said:
he is probably to young to have seen a Floppy and its PSU power connector
( he was probably wearing Diapers when they were last mainstream fittings in PC's )

I have an ATi AIW Radon 9800se that Requires a floppy power connection to power it

Sorry dude but you're wrong, I've seen lot of ancient tech.
Including floppy disks, I even have a few working ones, including a Mitsumi one.
I also have a Pentium II processor and its Asus mobo + I have a pentium III too

But yeah I guess this just makes it worse that I didn't know which wire was supposed to go where

dorsetknob · Aug 4, 2016

Harry9001 said:
Sorry dude but you're wrong, I've seen lot of ancient tech.
Including floppy disks, I even have a few working ones, including a Mitsumi one.

In that case its hard to fathom why you would put the Floppy power connector to a sensor point/fan connector on a motherboard Since you knew it was ................for a floppy drive

Still at least you did not bork anything

Harry9001 · Aug 4, 2016

dorsetknob said:
In that case its hard to fathom why you would put the Floppy power connector to a sensor point/fan connector on a motherboard Since you knew it was ................for a floppy drive

Still at least you did not bork anything

Yep and I thank god for that, whew !

eidairaman1 · Aug 4, 2016

dorsetknob said:
he is probably to young to have seen a Floppy and its PSU power connector
( he was probably wearing Diapers when they were last mainstream fittings in PC's )

I have an ATi AIW Radon 9800se that Requires a floppy power connection to power it

It came with the standard molex adapter, do not try to remove that adapter (did that once and killed a card)

dorsetknob · Aug 4, 2016

eidairaman1 said:
It came with the standard molex adapter, do not try to remove that adapter (did that once and killed a card)

No it came with same power connector as a 3 1/2" Floppy drive >>>>not the Same as standard molex
Ps it is a powercolor AIW 9800 se
google pic and in top right is white power connector

That my dear Sir is not what people refer to as standard molex

and this is the power connector same as floppy drive

Vayra86 · Aug 4, 2016

Thread made my day

Still glad no animals were hurt, nor PC's, but I did have a good laugh ^^

Caring1 · Aug 5, 2016

dorsetknob said:
No it came with same power connector as a 3 1/2" Floppy drive >>>>not the Same as standard molex
Ps it is a powercolor AIW 9800 se
google pic and in top right is white power connector

Never mind, I was going to ask if that card still worked with the resistor missing beside the power connector, then noticed it's a Google pic.

dorsetknob · Aug 5, 2016

Yes My Card is still fully working but in storage in original packaging with all accessorys

Its Analog TV so no tv signals in UK for it

INSTG8R · Aug 5, 2016

dorsetknob said:
No it came with same power connector as a 3 1/2" Floppy drive >>>>not the Same as standard molex
Ps it is a powercolor AIW 9800 se
google pic and in top right is white power connector

That my dear Sir is not what people refer to as standard molex

and this is the power connector same as floppy drive

Wow that brings back memories I had one too I passed it along but I still have the remote and dongle somewhere.

eidairaman1 · Aug 5, 2016

dorsetknob said:
No it came with same power connector as a 3 1/2" Floppy drive >>>>not the Same as standard molex
Ps it is a powercolor AIW 9800 se
google pic and in top right is white power connector

That my dear Sir is not what people refer to as standard molex

and this is the power connector same as floppy drive

Dorset I know about the connector on the card itself however the card had a pig tail that was attached to it, it was floppy to card side but molex to the power supply.

dorsetknob · Aug 5, 2016

eidairaman1 said:
Dorset I know about the connector on the card itself however the card had a pig tail that was attached to it, it was floppy to card side but molex to the power supply.

mine never came with that cable ( not listed on box as an included component )
Bought it new as well £139.99 on 16 October 2004 )
Had to as new Motherboard was AGP4 / 8 only and my Voodo 3500 TV was AGP2

eidairaman1 · Aug 5, 2016

dorsetknob said:
mine never came with that cable ( not listed on box as an included component )
Bought it new as well
Had to as new Motherboard was AGP4 / 8 only and my Voodo 3500 TV was AGP2

Perhaps the SE didnt need it, I had 2 ATi non 3rd party badge AIW cards, 9700 Pro-Accidently broke it trying to remove the pig tail-got replaced by a 9800 Pro- both had the pig tail which could not be removed.

95Viper · Aug 5, 2016

dorsetknob said:
Its Analog TV so no tv signals in UK for it

Yep, I got an All In Wonder packed away, too. If I remember, it, also, had a radio tuner, too.
I stop using it when the analog TV went digital.
Never had a problem with it... I used to like watching some TV while surfing the web or doing other work.

dorsetknob · Aug 5, 2016

eidairaman1 said:
Perhaps the SE didnt need it

It need external power ( from PSU via spare Floppy power connector or PC did not Boot and pc speaker screamed Error bleep)

eidairaman1 · Aug 5, 2016

dorsetknob said:
It need external power ( from PSU via spare Floppy power connector or PC did not Boot and pc speaker screamed Error bleep)

Yeah what i meant was the pro boards needed the voltages from the molex and the se only needed it from the floppy.

dorsetknob · Aug 5, 2016

Got 2 the above card and a hercules AIW 7500 ( does not need external power )
this one also still working
no Original box or packaging as i acquired it used
neither of mine had the FM Radio Tuner

eidairaman1 said:
Yeah what i meant was the pro boards needed the voltages from the molex and the se only needed it from the floppy.

The Pro had 8 pixel pipelines as std and the Se had 4 pixel pipelines as std
My SE drew the limit for power ( the card connector got rather Warm )
it also had the softmod for the Extra pipes hence the getting warm with the Extra power draw needed for the softmod

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