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‘Largest structure in the universe’ is discovered .......and baffles science

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A team of astronomers say they’ve discovered what might be the largest structure in the observable universe. The tremendous feature consists of nine gamma-ray bursts (GRB), forming a ring that is streaking across some 5 billion light years through space, according to a paper published in Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.

The ring’s diameter stretches more than 70 times that of the full moon as seen from Earth. And, as the GRBs each appear to be about 7 billion light years away, the probability that these features are positioned in this way by chance is just one in 20,000, according to lead author Professor Lajos Balazs from the Konkoly Observatory in Budapest.


However it seems to undermine our established understanding of how the universe developed.

According to the cosmological principle, the structure of the universe is uniform at its largest scale and its largest structures are theoretically limited to 1.2 billion light years across. This new discovery pushes that limit nearly five-fold.


An image of the distribution of gamma-ray bursts (GRBs) on the sky at a distance of 7 billion light years, centred on the newly discovered ring. The positions of the GRBs are marked by blue dots and the Milky Way is shown for reference, running from left to right



“If the ring represents a real spatial structure, then it has to be seen nearly face-on because of the small variations of GRB distances around the object’s centre,” Balazs said in a press release from the Royal Astronomical Society. “The ring could though instead be a projection of a sphere, where the GRBs all occurred within a 250 million year period, a short timescale compared with the age of the universe.”

Balazs and his team used telescopes in space and observatories on Earth to identify the structure. They will now investigate whether the cosmological principle and other processes of galaxy formation can account for the ring structure. If not, theories about the formation of the cosmos may need to be rewritten.

“If we are right,” he adds, “this structure contradicts the current models of the universe. It was a huge surprise to find something this big – and we still don’t quite understand how it came to exist at all.”

They suggest astronomers may need to radically revise their theories of the evolution of the cosmos




WHAT ARE GAMMA-RAY BURSTS?
Gamma-ray bursts are the most powerful explosions the universe has seen since the Big Bang.

They occur around once per day and are brief, but intense, flashes of gamma radiation.

They come from all directions and last from milliseconds to a few hundred seconds.

Recent evidence from recent satellites like Swift and Fermi indicate that the energy behind a gamma-ray burst comes from the collapse of matter into a black hole.

What is known, however, is that their huge luminosity helps astronomers to map out the location of distant galaxies, something the team exploited to find the structure.
 
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I always lol when scientists talk about "their understanding of how the universe developed" They have no understanding of how the universe developed. They have a theory.. Nothing more..

Cool read though, thanks. :)
 
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I always lol when scientists talk about "their understanding of how the universe developed" They have no understanding of how the universe developed. They have a theory.. Nothing more..

Cool read though, thanks. :)

Yep and now also everybody is an expert thanks to Neil Tyson with his 'science is cool' and 'science is for everyone' nonsense. Except other scientists buy into it because he's more 'legit' than Bill Nye in their eyes.

Who knows..
 
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Yep and now also everybody is an expert thanks to Neil Tyson with his 'science is cool' and 'science is for everyone' nonsense. Except other scientists buy into it because he's more 'legit' than Bill Nye in their eyes.

Who knows..

True.. It's like that TV show "Outrageous acts of science", that generally shows nothing scientific at all..
 
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I always lol when scientists talk about "their understanding of how the universe developed" They have no understanding of how the universe developed. They have a theory.. Nothing more..

Cool read though, thanks. :)


Compared to religious people, they do have an understanding, and are actively trying to find out more of the how. Religious people all read their translation of a book mostly based on how one sluts lie about premarital sex started a religion and then pick and choose to follow only the parts they want.
 
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Fail understanding of scientific "theory"

I guess you have failed to understand the word theory if you really think that..
Would you like the definition of the word?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory
Because my use of it was quite adept..
Theory means "We don't know jack but we will take existing knowledge and cram it into something, that seems coherent"
When it comes to space, time and quantum physics.. Anyone who says otherwise is kind of deluding themselves..
Every time I turn around "theories" are crushed by new information.
It was a "theory" that we were the only galaxy not long ago.. How'd that turn out? lol..

But hey, what do I know, I'm just freaking mensa status but I must be an idiot..

You seem to be kind of tracking me down lately..It's getting old.
 
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You seem to be kind of tracking me down lately.. Getting kind of tired of it..
I wasn't aware of that. Don't take it personal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
Fail at using Wikipedia

Every time I turn around "theories" are crushed by new information.
Can't think of anything more recent than Standard Model, maybe Higgs. GR, SR, maybe QM but those were kinda long ago
 
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I wasn't aware of that.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
Fail at using Wikipedia


Can't think of anything more recent than Standard Model, maybe Higgs. GR, SR, maybe QM was kinda long ago

Theory is a broadly used term Wiz... It can apply to any sense of the word theory and all of it's derivatives..
Such as scientific theory or medical theory.. I used it in a broad sense.. I didn't know I was required to break it down into a specific branch..lol.
Regardless scientific theory amounts to the same thing when it comes down to it..
Because even as per the definition, a theory can refer to a "body of knowledge" such as scientific theory..
Honestly I Just didn't see the point in you grammar Nazing me..
It added nothing to the discussion. You only insulted me..
W/e.. One of those days...lol

I have to quote: "It was a huge surprise to find something this big – and we still don’t quite understand how it came to exist at all.”

I consider that new knowledge and more recent lol..
 
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I like Tyson and Nye. Does that make me a chump?
 

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Theory is a broadly used term
Yup, and in science it means something completely different than in every day life. Just like "teleportation" in quantum physics doesn't mean Star Trek.
 

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Yup, and in science it means something completely different than in every day life. Just like "teleportation" in quantum physics doesn't mean Star Trek.
So ill pose a question then ,since its theorized that we need dark matter and energy to account for the total mass of the universe yet we know 2-4% of all that we might.
Why isn't this theory just some hodpotch to keep scientists in work.
The figures they must have used are shit because I've noted several studies suggesting that there is more mass then previously expected around typical stars and also planets and indeed solar systems and galaxy's , in fact most new essays using more advanced detectors and telescopes etc have found there to be significantly more stuff out there than we know about yet still we Know 4% max.
And why hasn't this study joined the sodding dots.
Big void structure surrounded by a circle of Grm's (scientifically theorized as black holes feeding) well then this must be a massive expanding black hole then because that's where the science leads atm imho.
 

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So ill pose a question then ,since its theorized that we need dark matter and energy to account for the total mass of the universe yet we know 2-4% of all that we might.
Why isn't this theory just some hodpotch to keep scientists in work.
The figures they must have used are shit because I've noted several studies suggesting that there is more mass then previously expected around typical stars and also planets and indeed solar systems and galaxy's , in fact most new essays using more advanced detectors and telescopes etc have found there to be significantly more stuff out there than we know about yet still we Know 4% max.
And why hasn't this study joined the sodding dots.
Big void structure surrounded by a circle of Grm's (scientifically theorized as black holes feeding) well then this must be a massive expanding black hole then because that's where the science leads atm imho.
http://mnras.oxfordjournals.org/content/452/3/2236.full.pdf+html

Full PDF. Starting from 4.3.3 is a good read that is not too complex.

The diameter of the structure (or at least its projection) is 5 billion light years. It can't be any single object.

GRBs are not black holes afaik, the outcome of a GRB is a black hole
 

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I love how people throw the term 'scientific theory' to the wolves as just some hokum. It's funny they do it on technology using GPS satellites using the theory of relativity to compensate for the speed of an object relative to its time in space. Funny that theory they don't question.
Or the theory of nuclear physics they're using to power their devices at home. We can't see the fission but our theory is so complete we fucking master it in man made reactors.
Yeah, 'scientific theory' is just nonsense. :rolleyes:

Those that love to debunk it should join the Taliban. They're agrarian, non-tech heroes. See how that works out you Luddites.
 
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