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So, I am finally pulling trigger on my rendering rig.

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The thing is, 12gb is too limiting. What if I want to experiment? I don't use 4k textures but what if I want to use that? A fairly busy scene will eat 10gb. What if I add few more objects? It could go over 12gb. A GPU may be fast but offers no upgrade path. I have to swap out for a new unit.
On the other hand, CPU renderer gives me flexibility with RAM. And with windows, if a render exceeds RAM, it will try to use pagefile to some level before deciding enough is enough. CPU rendering is far more flexible than GPU rendering.

That is why I'm not saying anything about changing the rest of the rendering rig. All I'm saying is, in the future, when the 1080Ti is out, it might be worth considering adding to the rig you plan on building now. So on projects that don't use more than 12GB, you can render them on the 1080Ti much quicker than on the CPU. If you want to experiment, and the project goes over the 12GB, then you use CPU rendering. You aren't loosing any functionality, just the option of much faster renders on project that are less than 12GB.

Nah, the render will stop and crash when vRAM runs out. I've experienced that shit ton of times with my 760 w/ 2gb. Any scene with even low-res textures will exceed 2gb easily. Bah.

Yeah, you're right. I just fired it up and tried with my 2GB 960. I don't know why I remember doing renders on the GPU and going way over the VRAM limit. Oh well.
 
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That is why I'm no saying anything about changing the rest of the rendering rig. All I'm saying is, in the future, when the 1080Ti is out, it might be worth considering adding to the rig you plan on building now. So on projects that don't use more than 12GB, you can render them on the 1080Ti much quicker than on the CPU. If you want to experiment, and the project goes over the 12GB, then you use CPU rendering. You aren't loosing any functionality, just the option of much faster renders on project that are less than 12GB.

Oops, I guess I misunderstood the point of your post then. My apologies.
Still, in my whole life, I never purchased any GPU worth more than Nvidia *60 line because my budget per a component is around 300 CAD. Spending the dough for 1080ti will probably not bode well with me. I never had lagging issues with *60 line GPUs, so I don't generally get the hype about getting anything better.


Yeah, you're right. I just fired it up and tried with my 2GB 960. I don't know why I remember doing renders on the GPU and going way over the VRAM limit. Oh well.
Yeah, 2GB GPU sucks ass. Can't even render a character with decent texture.
 

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Oops, I guess I misunderstood the point of your post then. My apologies.
Still, in my whole life, I never purchased any GPU worth more than Nvidia *60 line because my budget per a component is around 300 CAD. Spending the dough for 1080ti will probably not bode well with me. I never had lagging issues with *60 line GPUs, so I don't generally get the hype about getting anything better.

If anything, when the 1080Ti comes out, sign up for newegg premier for $24.99. Grab a 1080Ti off newegg.ca, and try it out. If you don't like it, or you don't think the performance is worth it, then just send it back. You've got 14 Days(or maybe its 30). With Premier you get free shipping to you, and free returns and newegg pays the return shipping. So you get to play with an awesome GPU to see if it is worth it, and you'll only be out the $24.99 you paid for premier. And if you buy enough stuff while you have premier, what you save in shipping pays for premier pretty quickly.
 
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If anything, when the 1080Ti comes out, sign up for newegg premier for $24.99. Grab a 1080Ti off newegg.ca, and try it out. If you don't like it, or you don't think the performance is worth it, then just send it back. You've got 14 Days(or maybe its 30). With Premier you get free shipping to you, and free returns and newegg pays the return shipping. So you get to play with an awesome GPU to see if it is worth it, and you'll only be out the $24.99 you paid for premier. And if you buy enough stuff while you have premier, what you save in shipping pays for premier pretty quickly.

I am not so keen on that idea, heh.
The best GPU I will probably get is 1060 6GB in which case I could fire up two different renders by telling Blender to use 26 threads for the first scene and use remaining 2 threads + CUDA for second scene.
 

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Staxrip and a 1080ti?
 

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Nah, the render will stop and crash when vRAM runs out. I've experienced that shit ton of times with my 760 w/ 2gb. Any scene with even low-res textures will exceed 2gb easily. Bah.
That's rubbish programming. You'd think they'd have fixed that by now. :slap:

You ok to post a couple of your renders here? I'm really curious to see what they look like. :)
 
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It is indeed not an option. I am not spending over a grand for a misery 12gb RAM capacity.

With CPU rendering, I can upgrade RAM if needed. With GPU, that's not an option.

EVGA Micro board, only has 4 memory slots. Sorry, im late
 
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That's rubbish programming. You'd think they'd have fixed that by now. :slap:

You ok to post a couple of your renders here? I'm really curious to see what they look like. :)

I'm also curious what OP is rendering. :)

I used to do some photoworks solidworks rendering with intel e7200, HD4870 and 4GB ram back in the days :p

We could start a rendering club thread! :D

I still have a few to post then.:)
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
My Nvidia 760 is slightly faster than i7-6700 (non-K0). That's what I know for a fact.

Against 14c/28t, I am not sure. I reckon GPU will be faster but if I can't render a scene due to lack of RAM, what would be the point?
You really need to differentiate between system ram and vram....or risk confusion again!
 
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You really need to differentiate between system ram and vram....or risk confusion again!

GPU rednering always uses vRAM. There is no other way around it.

Anyway, I need to change the mobo. Upon further googling, it seems Asrock Extreme 4 is the only one that supports full list of Xeon including the one I am keeping my eyes on.
 
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I don't usually post my renders as I do only for self-satisfaction.

I really dig space, so I usually do sci-fi. Here is one. It uses around 6gb RAM to render and takes 2 hours at 900 sample. 900 sample is the minimum level I'd do for anything final. 2,000 sample is what I prefer but takes ages, so until I get the xeon, that's out of my option.

Every mesh in that render is mine. I modelled them from groundup. The only thing that ain't mine is the Earth texture which was taken from NASA website.

Only Blender was used to create this. No other application was involved.

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Little of topic, but I was able to create and render these with intel e7200/HD4870 and just 4GB ram back in the days :D

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I don't usually post my renders as I do only for self-satisfaction.

I really dig space, so I usually do sci-fi. Here is one. It uses around 6gb RAM to render and takes 2 hours at 900 sample. 900 sample is the minimum level I'd do for anything final. 2,000 sample is what I prefer but takes ages, so until I get the xeon, that's out of my option.

Every mesh in that render is mine. I modelled them from groundup. The only thing that ain't mine is the Earth texture which was taken from NASA website.

Only Blender was used to create this. No other application was involved.

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Cool, I really like it, especially the sci-fi angle. :cool: Thanks for posting it. :toast:
 
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Core 2 is still usable to this day. I can even find benchmark scores for it. Blender supports AMD GPUs now via Open GL. I think it's even faster than CUDA at this point.

Rendering is calculation of how light rays are reflected, so simplier light setup is, faster it will render. Less bounces light has to make, it's going to be faster as well.

I guess I have it easier since I deal with space mostly (Empty space where far lesser light rays will bounce).

Little of topic, but I was able to create and render these with intel e7200/HD4870 and just 4GB ram back in the days :D

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Cool, I really like it, especially the sci-fi angle. :cool: Thanks for posting it. :toast:

Thanks and np. I am hoping to create scenes like Venus terraformation one day :D For now, I am just not good enough to bring the image in my head into the world.
 
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I will be ordering stuff in middle of September because I am buying the first wave of stuff a day before my CC cut off date and then make another wave of purchase to pay a month later.

While my CC limit is far more than few thousands, I placed a self limit, so I do not wish to go over my limit. The rig initially will have only 8gb (1 stick) of ram.

I can't wait to get this Xeon.

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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
Get the ram as a matching pair out of the gate. Don't split up things that shod be together like ram. What happens if you can't find that single matching stick?
 

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What happens if you can't find that single matching stick?

You buy a different stick with the same specs or better, and use that.
 
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Either way, Asrock X99 Extreme 4 mATX mobo has been ordered today from Super Biiz.

I ordered from USA because it's going to be end up 50 CAD cheaper. Bah and they have 10 bucks off promotion until 5th of Sept. I wasn't going to miss that.

Edit: I told myself "Fuck this" and ordered CPU as well.
 
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Update.

I made the order for CPU. The user's e-mail is yahoo.co.jp but seller's name is Chinese. I will see where the chip is being shipped. If it turns out to be an ES, I guess I can get a partial refund. An ES chip is still very much usable anyway.
 
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Just an update.

All parts are here, except for the CPU. CPU is expected between Sept 9th to 19th according to Ebay ETA. It was sent off from Tokyo via air mail (trackable).
 

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I just ordered a 12c/24t 2.9ghz xeon myself. ES chip, but a us one so we will see how it does as well.
 
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