PC restarts when playing not high demanding games (Football manager). Tried everything, help.

EarthDog · Sep 8, 2016

I caution removing the heatsink if the gpu is still under warranty as it could void the warranty. I would only do that if you know temps are out of whack...

Cam - merge your posts bud... find that edit function instead of double posting.

rale93lfc · Sep 8, 2016

Couple days ago i cleaned fans and one PC cover is open. Will probably change thermal pasta on CPU.

I know that PSU is shitty one, and that also GPU can be the problem, but why it doesn't restart on the other games?? Like GTA V or FIFA16...

PS. Playing FM16 for about an hour atm, no restarts. (Updated BIOS and chipstet and network drivers). As I said restart can occur later too... Will keep you posted.

MyTechAddiction · Sep 8, 2016

rale93lfc said:
Couple days ago i cleaned fans and one PC cover is open. Will probably change thermal pasta on CPU.

I know that PSU is shitty one, and that also GPU can be the problem, but why it doesn't restart on the other games?? Like GTA V or FIFA16...

PS. Playing FM16 for about an hour atm, no restarts. (Updated BIOS and chipstet and network drivers). As I said restart can occur later too... Will keep you posted.

its very likely that the game is accessing some part of vram or gpu more or in a way that stresses a certain connecting bond harder then the rest. For me just cause 2 , and its multplayer mod was the one that did the trick.

cameronh779 · Sep 8, 2016

EarthDog said:
I caution removing the heatsink if the gpu is still under warranty as it could void the warranty. I would only do that if you know temps are out of whack...

Cam - merge your posts bud... find that edit function instead of double posting.

I typically do, been here a long time it was just one mistake.

But i agree in the sense of voiding the warranty, but I am not sure if you can use software to monitor VRM temps and if that is the problem then it needs to be checked. Typically there are pads on the VRMS.

rale93lfc · Sep 8, 2016

GPU is not in warranty anymore.

@MyTechAddiction as i said, here also, was problem when i play with steam online in FM15, but when i play steam offline restarts stoped. (In Football Manager 16 case it doesn't metter online or offline)

Played for about 1h, will play more tonight and let you all know. No restarts atm... If updating the BIOS was the trick... I will be like WTF...

eidairaman1 · Sep 9, 2016

No luck?

EarthDog · Sep 9, 2016

rale93lfc said:
GPU is not in warranty anymore.

@MyTechAddiction as i said, here also, was problem when i play with steam online in FM15, but when i play steam offline restarts stoped. (In Football Manager 16 case it doesn't metter online or offline)

Played for about 1h, will play more tonight and let you all know. No restarts atm... If updating the BIOS was the trick... I will be like WTF...

you updated 3 things. Any one of those could have done it.

rale93lfc · Sep 9, 2016

Will play more next week, had some exam so needed to study. Will keep you posted.

a_ump · Sep 10, 2016

Have you tried running it with just one stick of RAM? alternating them? and you're 100% on the fact that it only does this with Football Manager? Do you have a spare GPU you can throw in your pc to see if its GPU related? as 'TechAddiction" said, some games will utilize the gpu and its memory differently so that an error only occurs when a specific function is performed.

EDIT: I see you have an i5 3470, use the hd 2500 integrated if you don't have another gpu card. see if it still crashes.

rale93lfc · Sep 16, 2016

No luck, restart again happened. Will probably try with that Intel GPU. Thing is restart happened, when CPU was busiest. (Processing some results from other games, was bunch of them)So i'm starting to think that it wasn't GPU's fault. Either CPU doesn't get enough power, it's not overheating... Still didn't buy PSU, need to make sure it is CPU. But probably gonna buy it anyway.

Any suggestions,
thanks for helping.

SnakeDoctor · Sep 16, 2016

What does event viewer say on restart?
Disable "automatic restart on system failure" then can see the bsod error code
Tested the ram ? memtest
Tested Hdd ? Harddrive sentinel Trial
Check psu for damage internally ?blow caps / burns

Update game to latest patch

>Update your pc spec on profile <

rale93lfc · Sep 18, 2016

Tested HDD also, no errors... Allredy disabled that future, restart happened without BSOD.

Don't know is this related to this issue, but everytime I starts PC (usually from sleep option) i get BSOD and need to restart it, then it runs fine.

P4-630 · Sep 18, 2016

Fill out your complete system specs:
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rale93lfc · Sep 18, 2016

Updated specs.

I'm not sure but shouldn't that 12V rail be at least 12V and not 8V? I'm not really expert in this, I could be wrong.

EarthDog · Sep 18, 2016

I've already a dressed this voltage issue...

1. If it was 8V, your pc wouldn't be working..
2. Software readings are notorious for being off. You need to measure it with a mumtimeter.

P4-630 · Sep 18, 2016

EarthDog said:
mumtimeter

To measure your mum's voltages?

Ok, I know what you mean...

rale93lfc · Sep 18, 2016

Ok will done that too...

This is starting to really piss me off.

eidairaman1 · Sep 18, 2016

rale93lfc said:
Ok will done that too...

This is starting to really piss me off.

Id say ram or motherboard at this point.

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Power Supply	RaidMax RX500
Mouse	Logitech M280
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System Name	LFC
Processor	Intel i5 3470
Motherboard	MSI B75MA-E33
Memory	8GB DDR3 800Mhz
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon Saphire 7850 1GB
Storage	TOSHIBA 1TB 32MB 7k SATA600
Power Supply	RaidMax RX500
Mouse	Logitech M280
Software	Windows 10 64bit

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Display(s)	NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case	AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s)	Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply	Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard	Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64

PC restarts when playing not high demanding games (Football manager). Tried everything, help.

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