• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

CORSAIR Launches DOMINATOR PLATINUM Special Edition DDR4 Memory

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
46,274 (7.69/day)
Location
Hyderabad, India
System Name RBMK-1000
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B450-E Gaming
Cooling DeepCool Gammax L240 V2
Memory 2x 8GB G.Skill Sniper X
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER GameRock
Storage Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s) BenQ 1440p 60 Hz 27-inch
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) ASUS SupremeFX S1220A
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W
Mouse ASUS ROG Strix Impact
Keyboard Gamdias Hermes E2
Software Windows 11 Pro
CORSAIR, a world leader in enthusiast memory, PC components and high-performance gaming hardware today announced the immediate availability of its new DOMINATOR PLATINUM Special Edition DDR4 memory. Adding a new level of refinement and distinction to the long-standing CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM legacy, DOMINATOR PLATINUM Special Edition is available in two exclusive new styles, mirror finish Chrome and brushed aluminum Blackout. Precision crafted in strictly limited quantities of 500 kits each of 32GB (4x8GB or 2x16GB) 3,200MHz DDR4, DOMINATOR PLATINUM Special Edition also boasts improved integrated lighting via an illuminated light-pipe, patented DHX cooling technology and full XMP certification for one-touch overclocking.

Designed for world-class PC system builds where only the most elite memory will suffice, CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM Special Edition modules deliver the refinement and quality that the most discerning PC enthusiasts demand.



Designed and crafted to meticulous standards, DOMINATOR PLATINUM Special Edition is CORSAIR's most elite memory ever, combining the classic and iconic DOMINATOR PLATINUM design with two new stunning finishes. DOMINATOR PLATINUM Special Edition Chrome's ultra-reflective chrome surface starts with anodized aluminum that is precision polished to a mirror finish and trimmed with sandblasted matte edging for an unprecedented display of beauty and power. In contrast, the ultra-sleek DOMINATOR PLATINUM Special Edition Blackout is engineered from black anodized aluminum, finished with polished black edging, and hand sorted to maintain a flawless finish. Each kit is individually numbered using high precision laser engraving, guaranteeing exclusivity.

Fully compatible with the latest Intel X99 and 100 series motherboards, each module is individually hand screened for added quality assurance and overclocking headroom. For discerning users looking to push their system to the limit and reach peak performance, DOMINATOR PLATINUM Special Edition's custom 10-layer PCB provides superior signaling for greater overclocking potential, allowing every DOMINATOR PLATINUM Special Edition module to be safely overclocked to at least 3,600MHz. What's more, with CORSAIR's patented DHX cooling technology, the aluminum heat-spreader is built right into the PCB, ensuring rapid heat dissipation and lower temperatures.

"DOMINATOR PLATINUM SE modules are meticulously crafted with painstaking attention to detail, manufactured in limited edition quantities of 500, and individually numbered." Said Andy Paul, CORSAIR Founder and CEO.
"These rather special and rare products will be enjoyed by an exclusive group of enthusiasts"

Dominator Platinum Special Edition Chrome and Dominator Platinum Special Edition Blackout are available immediately exclusively from the CORSAIR webstore in the United States, UK and Germany.

For more information, visit the product page.

View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 
Joined
Mar 7, 2011
Messages
3,883 (0.81/day)
gp2axigrjeszlker6cfg.jpg
 
Joined
Jun 11, 2013
Messages
266 (0.07/day)
Location
Nehr'esham
System Name Neverending Story
Processor 7700X / 4790K / 4670K / G3258 / 3770K / 8750 / 6800K / 5800K / 3870K / QX6700 / 6500K / 5750M
Motherboard X670H / Z97X-SOCF / Z77X-UP5 / Z77CROWN-U1D / F2A88X-UP4 / A75-UD4H / IX48-GT3 / BlackOps / FS1r2A75
Cooling HR-22 / Silver Arrow IB-E / Archon SB-E / Mega Shadow / TRUE-Black
Memory Corsair Dominator GT / GTX / Platinum, G.SKILL Flare / Perfect Storm / Pi / Trident (X/Z), OCZ Blade
Video Card(s) mostly obscure stuff
Case Lancool / Silverstone / Thermaltake / Cubitek
Audio Device(s) -
Power Supply 80plus Platinum
Software -
Benchmark Scores -
Who cares?

#need :D
 
Joined
Feb 11, 2009
Messages
5,389 (0.98/day)
System Name Cyberline
Processor Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k
Motherboard Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4
Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop
Memory Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz
Video Card(s) AMD RX480 -> ... nope still the same :'(
Storage Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD
Display(s) Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF
Case antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case
Audio Device(s) Focusrite 2i4 (USB)
Power Supply Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum
Mouse Elecom EX-G
Keyboard Rapoo V700
Software Windows 10 Pro 64bit
Sexy but question, why have we not moved past DDR4 already?
I know its barely adopted to begin with but, we have GDDR5 and now GDDR5x and HBM, so why are we still stuck on DDR4?
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
15,998 (2.26/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/5za05v
Sexy but question, why have we not moved past DDR4 already?
I know its barely adopted to begin with but, we have GDDR5 and now GDDR5x and HBM, so why are we still stuck on DDR4?

Because desktop DRAM is quite different from graphics memory?
 
Joined
May 22, 2010
Messages
427 (0.08/day)
Location
Iraq
System Name Simon
Processor Core i7 5820K @ 4.4GHz @1.25v core, 1.9v input, 1.12v system agent, 0.9v cache - 24/7 & P95 stable
Motherboard ASUS X99 Deluxe U3.1, BIOS 3101
Cooling Corsair H110i GTX + 2 x Corsair ML140 Pro Red LED, exhaust @ top panel
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 4x 8GB 2666 MHz 16, 18, 18, 35, 2T (Stock)
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (OC BIOS), +60 MHz GPU, +450 MHz Memory
Storage Samsung 960 Evo 500 Gb, WD Green + White Label, total 17 TB
Display(s) 3x Samsung CFG73 (24" 1920x1080, 144Hz) in 2D Surround, LG C7 OLED TV (55", 4K, 60Hz)
Case Corsair 760T + Corsair SP120 Perf.Ed. + 3x ML 140 Pro Red + DEMCI Dust Filter Kit + DeepCool RGB LED
Audio Device(s) Creative SB Z, Topping E30 + SMSL SP200, Hifiman 4XX, beyerdynamic 770 250Ω, Audeze iSine 10, HD6xx
Power Supply Corsair RM1000i + APC BackUPS RS1500 (modded w/ 130 AH Kung Long Batteries) + APC Smart UPS SUA1500i
Mouse Razer Naga Chroma + Reflex Lab Extended Mouse Pad + Xbox One S Controller + 3 x Xbox 360 Controllers
Keyboard Corsiar K70 RGB (2016 Edition) Cherry Mx Red w/ custom Arabic-legend shine-through keycaps
Software Windows 10 Pro x64 - ver. 20H2
Benchmark Scores Onkyo TX-NR626 AV Receiver, speakers: 4x Yamaha NS-M325 + Yamaha NS-C3290 + Proson Libre Sub 8.1
Sexy but question, why have we not moved past DDR4 already?
I know its barely adopted to begin with but, we have GDDR5 and now GDDR5x and HBM, so why are we still stuck on DDR4?
The first graphics card to adopt GDDR5 was released 7 years ago (ATI HD 5870 in 2008) and the first platform to adopt DDR4 was released 2 years ago iirc (x99 in 2014).. As it is already pointed out, RAM and VRAM are 2 different things.
 
Joined
Feb 11, 2009
Messages
5,389 (0.98/day)
System Name Cyberline
Processor Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k
Motherboard Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4
Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop
Memory Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz
Video Card(s) AMD RX480 -> ... nope still the same :'(
Storage Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD
Display(s) Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF
Case antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case
Audio Device(s) Focusrite 2i4 (USB)
Power Supply Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum
Mouse Elecom EX-G
Keyboard Rapoo V700
Software Windows 10 Pro 64bit
The first graphics card to adopt GDDR5 was released 7 years ago (ATI HD 5870 in 2008) and the first platform to adopt DDR4 was released 2 years ago iirc (x99 in 2014).. As it is already pointed out, RAM and VRAM are 2 different things.

Are they though? both are memory.
I know GDDR is a lot faster and more expensive then DDR.
And still we have HBM tech, is that somehow impossible to implement on Ram?
 
Joined
May 22, 2010
Messages
427 (0.08/day)
Location
Iraq
System Name Simon
Processor Core i7 5820K @ 4.4GHz @1.25v core, 1.9v input, 1.12v system agent, 0.9v cache - 24/7 & P95 stable
Motherboard ASUS X99 Deluxe U3.1, BIOS 3101
Cooling Corsair H110i GTX + 2 x Corsair ML140 Pro Red LED, exhaust @ top panel
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 4x 8GB 2666 MHz 16, 18, 18, 35, 2T (Stock)
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (OC BIOS), +60 MHz GPU, +450 MHz Memory
Storage Samsung 960 Evo 500 Gb, WD Green + White Label, total 17 TB
Display(s) 3x Samsung CFG73 (24" 1920x1080, 144Hz) in 2D Surround, LG C7 OLED TV (55", 4K, 60Hz)
Case Corsair 760T + Corsair SP120 Perf.Ed. + 3x ML 140 Pro Red + DEMCI Dust Filter Kit + DeepCool RGB LED
Audio Device(s) Creative SB Z, Topping E30 + SMSL SP200, Hifiman 4XX, beyerdynamic 770 250Ω, Audeze iSine 10, HD6xx
Power Supply Corsair RM1000i + APC BackUPS RS1500 (modded w/ 130 AH Kung Long Batteries) + APC Smart UPS SUA1500i
Mouse Razer Naga Chroma + Reflex Lab Extended Mouse Pad + Xbox One S Controller + 3 x Xbox 360 Controllers
Keyboard Corsiar K70 RGB (2016 Edition) Cherry Mx Red w/ custom Arabic-legend shine-through keycaps
Software Windows 10 Pro x64 - ver. 20H2
Benchmark Scores Onkyo TX-NR626 AV Receiver, speakers: 4x Yamaha NS-M325 + Yamaha NS-C3290 + Proson Libre Sub 8.1
Are they though? both are memory.
I know GDDR is a lot faster and more expensive then DDR.
And still we have HBM tech, is that somehow impossible to implement on Ram?
If they implement HBM on CPUs, we won't be able to upgrade the RAM if the need arises. And most current applications are not limited by the memory bandwidth, many of them perform the same on dual channel and quad channel memory platforms.
 
Joined
Feb 11, 2009
Messages
5,389 (0.98/day)
System Name Cyberline
Processor Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k
Motherboard Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4
Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop
Memory Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz
Video Card(s) AMD RX480 -> ... nope still the same :'(
Storage Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD
Display(s) Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF
Case antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case
Audio Device(s) Focusrite 2i4 (USB)
Power Supply Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum
Mouse Elecom EX-G
Keyboard Rapoo V700
Software Windows 10 Pro 64bit
If they implement HBM on CPUs, we won't be able to upgrade the RAM if the need arises. And most current applications are not limited by the memory bandwidth, many of them perform the same on dual channel and quad channel memory platforms.

Oh I dont mean on the cpu, I mean just on separate Ram sticks like ram functions now.
 
Joined
Sep 15, 2016
Messages
473 (0.17/day)
There are CPUs with HBM stacks, it's called EDRAM or Embedded-DRAM, it's just not widely available yet.



You can purchase a complete system with a 64-Core Intel CPU with 16GB of Embedded HBM and you can add an additional 6 DDR4 DIMMs.

http://dap.xeonphi.com/
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jun 27, 2010
Messages
335 (0.07/day)
These are using the same Samsung 8Gbit B-die ICs everyone else is using, no sense paying that much just for the fancy heatspreader.
 

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer
Joined
Aug 22, 2015
Messages
3,517 (1.12/day)
Location
Europe
System Name eazen corp | Xentronon 7.2
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X // PBO max.
Motherboard Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus
Cooling Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 w/ AM4 kit // 3x Corsair AF140L case fans (2 in, 1 out)
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16 GB DDR4 3600 @ 3800, CL16-19-19-39-58-1T, 1.4 V
Video Card(s) Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti modded to MATRIX // 2000-2100 MHz Core / 1938 MHz G6
Storage Silicon Power P34A80 1TB NVME/Samsung SSD 830 128GB&850 Evo 500GB&F3 1TB 7200RPM/Seagate 2TB 5900RPM
Display(s) Samsung 27" Curved FS2 HDR QLED 1440p/144Hz&27" iiyama TN LED 1080p/120Hz / Samsung 40" IPS 1080p TV
Case Corsair Carbide 600C
Audio Device(s) HyperX Cloud Orbit S / Creative SB X AE-5 @ Logitech Z906 / Sony HD AVR @PC & TV @ Teufel Theater 80
Power Supply EVGA 650 GQ
Mouse Logitech G700 @ Steelseries DeX // Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
Keyboard Corsair K70 LUX RGB /w Cherry MX Brown switches
VR HMD Still nope
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 15 095 Time Spy | P29 079 Firestrike | P35 628 3DM11 | X67 508 3DM Vantage Extreme
Oh I dont mean on the cpu, I mean just on separate Ram sticks like ram functions now.
That's impossible, HBM is supposed to be near the CPU/GPU to have this fancy high bandwidth (a LOT of connections). Routing the signals through the whole mainboard to Ram sticks would make the mainboard and Ram sticks extremely expensive, if it's even possible.
 
Last edited:

ixi

Joined
Aug 19, 2014
Messages
1,451 (0.41/day)
Don't know how others look at this product, but for me it looks bah, garbage :D
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
15,998 (2.26/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/5za05v
Oh I dont mean on the cpu, I mean just on separate Ram sticks like ram functions now.

I guess you don't understand much about PCB design and the routing of the PCB traces?

It's quite hard to make high-speed interfaces and the longer the board traces, the more limited you are in terms of speed and this is why the memory modules have moved closer and closer to the CPU over the years.

For example, this is an old 386 motherboard where the memory slots were at the opposite side of the motherboard from the CPU. Back then, memory was "slow" especially compared to what we're using today and the L2 cache was also placed on the motherboard. Note that back then you needed four modules to fill a "bank" or the computer wouldn't work.



But as speeds increased, the memory slots were moved closer and closer to the CPU to avoid the use of buffering chips and complex board layouts just to keep the data intact.

The bus has also gotten a lot wider, but there's a reason why most busses in a computer are serial in nature, as it's "easy" to design them and not end up with corrupted data. However, memory is still using a parallel interface which makes it hard to design in on a motherboard.

Something like HBM uses an extremely wide bus compared to regular computer memory and this is also why it needs to be so close to the "processor" as it's simply not possible to design it in a different, cost efficient way while maintaining the data integrity.

This is also why platforms like Intel high-end stuff uses quad channel memory to try to increase the memory bus towards the processor, as it's easier the implement this on a board level.

Besides that, GDDR5 and GDDR4 are technically graphics specific versions of DDR3 with a few tweaks to allow it to operate at higher speeds. Also keep in mind that most PC's use 2x 64-bit DRAM in a dual-channel configuration, whereas only lower-end graphics cards today use a 128-bit interface, with most better cards having a 256-bit or wider bus, which results in much higher memory bandwidth. This is largely why graphics memory is so much faster than RAM, as the memory is closer to the "processor" and the bus between the GPU and the memory is much wider.
 
Joined
Feb 11, 2009
Messages
5,389 (0.98/day)
System Name Cyberline
Processor Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k
Motherboard Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4
Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop
Memory Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz
Video Card(s) AMD RX480 -> ... nope still the same :'(
Storage Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD
Display(s) Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF
Case antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case
Audio Device(s) Focusrite 2i4 (USB)
Power Supply Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum
Mouse Elecom EX-G
Keyboard Rapoo V700
Software Windows 10 Pro 64bit
I guess you don't understand much about PCB design and the routing of the PCB traces?

It's quite hard to make high-speed interfaces and the longer the board traces, the more limited you are in terms of speed and this is why the memory modules have moved closer and closer to the CPU over the years.

For example, this is an old 386 motherboard where the memory slots were at the opposite side of the motherboard from the CPU. Back then, memory was "slow" especially compared to what we're using today and the L2 cache was also placed on the motherboard. Note that back then you needed four modules to fill a "bank" or the computer wouldn't work.



But as speeds increased, the memory slots were moved closer and closer to the CPU to avoid the use of buffering chips and complex board layouts just to keep the data intact.

The bus has also gotten a lot wider, but there's a reason why most busses in a computer are serial in nature, as it's "easy" to design them and not end up with corrupted data. However, memory is still using a parallel interface which makes it hard to design in on a motherboard.

Something like HBM uses an extremely wide bus compared to regular computer memory and this is also why it needs to be so close to the "processor" as it's simply not possible to design it in a different, cost efficient way while maintaining the data integrity.

This is also why platforms like Intel high-end stuff uses quad channel memory to try to increase the memory bus towards the processor, as it's easier the implement this on a board level.

Besides that, GDDR5 and GDDR4 are technically graphics specific versions of DDR3 with a few tweaks to allow it to operate at higher speeds. Also keep in mind that most PC's use 2x 64-bit DRAM in a dual-channel configuration, whereas only lower-end graphics cards today use a 128-bit interface, with most better cards having a 256-bit or wider bus, which results in much higher memory bandwidth. This is largely why graphics memory is so much faster than RAM, as the memory is closer to the "processor" and the bus between the GPU and the memory is much wider.

Oh man, thanks :p
Very educational, does make me wonder though, I mean we do see memory speed going up constantly and companies bragging about benchmark results.
So would you say that if we were to put HBM memory on a memory stick and have it were the memory resides now, there would be no increase in speed?
Because I find that hard to imagine seeing as memory has not really moved on the mobo since DDR2 and we are at much faster memory now.
Or are we now hitting some limit?
Or is the added speed it would give meaningless given the speed of other parts?
 
Joined
Sep 15, 2011
Messages
6,457 (1.41/day)
Processor Intel® Core™ i7-13700K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX
Cooling Noctua NH-D15
Memory 32GB(2x16) DDR5@6600MHz G-Skill Trident Z5
Video Card(s) ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 AMP Holo
Storage 2TB SK Platinum P41 SSD + 4TB SanDisk Ultra SSD + 500GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD
Display(s) Acer Predator X34 3440x1440@100Hz G-Sync
Case NZXT PHANTOM410-BK
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Titanium PCIe
Power Supply Corsair 850W
Mouse Logitech Hero G502 SE
Software Windows 11 Pro - 64bit
Benchmark Scores 30FPS in NFS:Rivals
A little off-topic, but let's be honest, if there is a CPU sold with 32GB of HBM memory, who the hell would care if you cannot upgrade the RAM? Heck, I have 16GB of RAM for more than 6 year now, and not planning to upgrade to more.

Because I find that hard to imagine seeing as memory has not really moved on the mobo since DDR2 and we are at much faster memory now.
Or are we now hitting some limit?

To be honest, there is almost no difference between DDR3 and DDR4 at this moment, not unless you are running a SLI setup on a 8 Core CPU. The DDR3 bandwidth is bigger than any CPUs can output at the moment, that's why you gain so little if using RAMs with different speeds.
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
15,998 (2.26/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/5za05v
Oh man, thanks :p
Very educational, does make me wonder though, I mean we do see memory speed going up constantly and companies bragging about benchmark results.
So would you say that if we were to put HBM memory on a memory stick and have it were the memory resides now, there would be no increase in speed?
Because I find that hard to imagine seeing as memory has not really moved on the mobo since DDR2 and we are at much faster memory now.
Or are we now hitting some limit?
Or is the added speed it would give meaningless given the speed of other parts?

HBM was never designed to be used in that way.

Maybe this helps explains things a bit.

hbm-vs-gddr.gif


As you can see, the clock speed of HBM is actually really, really slow compared to GDDR5, but due to the super wide bus, you get much higher bandwidth.
Designing this into a motherboard would be nigh on impossible with today's technology, at least in a cost efficient way.

As with much technology, it's not always the best or fastest solution that becomes the commonly used thing, but the one that's the most affordable to mass produce.
TSV (Through-silicon via) is still quite complicated to manufacture and the failure rate is comparatively very high against normal DRAM and this is part of the reason why it's not widely used yet.

Technically it might be possible to mount the HBM stacks on say the rear side of the motherboard so they can interface directly with the CPU socket that way, but it doesn't seem like a sensible way of doing things and you'd still not be able to upgrade the memory.
Putting it on a DIMM of some kind simply doesn't make sense today, as how are you going to get 16 times more motherboard traces in there to handle the move from a 64-bit to a 1024-bit bus?

So the answer to your question is really quite simple, no HBM wouldn't make any sense to use as a DDR4 replacement, at least not with today's technology.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Sep 15, 2016
Messages
473 (0.17/day)
A little off-topic, but let's be honest, if there is a CPU sold with 32GB of HBM memory, who the hell would care if you cannot upgrade the RAM? Heck, I have 16GB of RAM for more than 6 year now, and not planning to upgrade to more.

RAM Cache. (That's about it, really.)
 
Joined
Aug 22, 2016
Messages
292 (0.11/day)
It's not outrageously expensive. I bought 16GB of 2400Mhz DDR3 for about the same when DDR3 came out. However real world performance increases are minimal (prob 1fps) this stuff is for people that simply want the best for there X99 and Titan SLi setups.
 
Joined
Sep 22, 2012
Messages
1,010 (0.24/day)
Location
Belgrade, Serbia
System Name Intel® X99 Wellsburg
Processor Intel® Core™ i7-5820K - 4.5GHz
Motherboard ASUS Rampage V E10 (1801)
Cooling EK RGB Monoblock + EK XRES D5 Revo Glass PWM
Memory CMD16GX4M4A2666C15
Video Card(s) ASUS GTX1080Ti Poseidon
Storage Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 1TB /850 EVO 1TB / WD Black 2TB
Display(s) Samsung P2450H
Case Lian Li PC-O11 WXC
Audio Device(s) CREATIVE Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply EVGA 1200 P2 Platinum
Mouse Logitech G900 / SS QCK
Keyboard Deck 87 Francium Pro
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
I like these kits. They are very elegant and nice.
I would bought maybe one 4x8GB if someone could guarantee me compatibility with Skylake Xtreme next year.
Because I don't need more than 32GB and I like such unusual stuff and they will fit perfect in my interior. Problem is if I buy them they will work perfect on my X99 and what next year they are not compatible with Skylake Xtreme.
Even if they should work perfectly and should be in QVL if you ask me.
Skylake Xtreme arrive with DDR4 2666 and LGA 2066.
I bought small iPhone Special Edition maybe is time and for DDR4 Special Edition. :)
 
Top