[The Duality] [Dual System, Godavari & Skylake in a Phanteks P400]

[Duality92]

Well since you refuse to be forthcoming about the fan setup, I will assume its pointless to ask any questions at all.

I don't understand what you're saying?

non-PWM fans will run at 100% on a PWM hub since they are not being controlled by the PWM signal. I can't talk about the final fan setup because it's not final yet. The case is still under going design.

So, I have 4 PWM fans to run and will run two on each system. I also will have 5 non-PWM fans to run, which can be split however I want.

Each motherboard has 2*4-pin connector, assuming only one of them actually puts out a PWM signal.

If you would read this post you would see that I have 4 non-pwm fans. With case mentionned (Frozen Q Apex mATX) you see that there are 5*120mm fans. With the mention of me using 2*280mm radiators means that two of the 240mm fan setup will actually be 280mm sized. This brings us to a total of 4 * 80mm, 4 * 140mm and 1 * 120mm. After speaking with the owner about my design today, we came to the conclusion that 2*280mm will affect case rigidity so we'll be aiming for 1 * 280 and 1 * 240. This brings the actual total to 4 * 80mm, 2 * 140mm, 3 * 120mm. The two 140mm being PWM will be on one splitter and two of the 120mm PWM will be on the second splitter. The 4 * 80mm and rear 120mm fan will be seperated between both PWM hubs.

This information was all available in the past pages. Did you read anything before saying I "refuse" to say anything about the forthcoming fan setup?

ya I didnt scroll up that far, sad to see Phanteks drop the ball like that.

By reading this comment of yours, it's the second time you failed to read the thread.

First time was here.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I don't understand what you're saying?

non-PWM fans will run at 100% on a PWM hub since they are not being controlled by the PWM signal. I can't talk about the final fan setup because it's not final yet. The case is still under going design.


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The two 140mm being PWM will be on one splitter and two of the 120mm PWM will be on the second splitter. The 4 * 80mm and rear 120mm fan will be seperated between both PWM hubs.

This information was all available in the past pages. Did you read anything before saying I "refuse" to say anything about the forthcoming fan setup?



By reading this comment of yours, it's the second time you failed to read the thread.

First time was here.

I'm sorry if I come across a bit brash. I'm trying to understand how you are splitting up all the fans.

By splitter, you mean a Y-cable? If yes, I assume plugged into the CPU_OPT header. Since CPU_*** is the only true PWM signal on most motherboards.

So there will only be 5 fans split between the 2 Hubs? seems like a waste when a 5 channel fan controller would be more suited for the task.

 

[Duality92]

I'm sorry if I come across a bit brash. I'm trying to understand how you are splitting up all the fans.

By splitter, you mean a Y-cable? If yes, I assume plugged into the CPU_OPT header. Since CPU_*** is the only true PWM signal on most motherboards.

So there will only be 5 fans split between the 2 Hubs? seems like a waste when a 5 channel fan controller would be more suited for the task.

There will be a total of 9 fans.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

There will be a total of 9 fans.

LOL getting answers from you is such a PITA. Ya, ya, ya you already said there will be 9 fans...

Cant you answer a direct question?


ohh wait it must be the Canuck thing, eh?

 

[Duality92]

LOL getting answers from you is such a PITA. Ya, ya, ya you already said there will be 9 fans...

Cant you answer a direct question?


ohh wait it must be the Canuck thing, eh?

Maybe if your answer would be clear, then maybe I could answer you adequately.

I'm done with your trolling, I'll just draw you a diagram, maybe then you'll understand, wait... I don't think that'll even be enough for you.

First, you said "So there will only be 5 fans split between the 2 Hubs?"

I said there will be 9 fans. That's answering your question directly.

Second, no I'm not using a Y-Splitter, I've never talked about one, I've already stated numerous times what I'll be using.

This is seriously the last message I direct towards you unless you can asks well formulated questions that have not been answered previously multiple times.

Thank you.

80mm be quiet * 4 to PWM hubs. Doesn't matter to which, they will run 100% (running as exhaust running over the power supplies)
120mm Phanteks PWM * 2 to PWM hub1 (for radiator 1)
140mm Phanteks PWM * 2 to PWM hub2 (for radiator 2)
Optional 92mm in the back as additional intake.

Ends up with 8 fans total. The front ones aren't sized to 120mm on this picture, and more stuff isn't done, it's an early render of the case.

Does this clear up anything?

I'm not sure where I'll mount the phanteks PWM hubs yet because I don't know exactly where I'll be mounting them. So I cannot tell you on which hub the fans will be connected.

 

[Duality92]

UPDATE TIME!

We finally finished the design of the case. My creative mind goes crazy when I get to do customization. Cutting should be starting today! This is an as-close-as-you'll-get render of the case

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[Duality92]

I'll just leave these here.



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[hertz9753]

I like this thread.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Maybe if your answer would be clear, then maybe I could answer you adequately.

I'm done with your trolling, I'll just draw you a diagram, maybe then you'll understand, wait... I don't think that'll even be enough for you.

First, you said "So there will only be 5 fans split between the 2 Hubs?"

I said there will be 9 fans. That's answering your question directly.

Second, no I'm not using a Y-Splitter, I've never talked about one, I've already stated numerous times what I'll be using.

This is seriously the last message I direct towards you unless you can asks well formulated questions that have not been answered previously multiple times.

Thank you.

80mm be quiet * 4 to PWM hubs. Doesn't matter to which, they will run 100% (running as exhaust running over the power supplies)
120mm Phanteks PWM * 2 to PWM hub1 (for radiator 1)
140mm Phanteks PWM * 2 to PWM hub2 (for radiator 2)
Optional 92mm in the back as additional intake.

Ends up with 8 fans total. The front ones aren't sized to 120mm on this picture, and more stuff isn't done, it's an early render of the case.

Does this clear up anything?

I'm not sure where I'll mount the phanteks PWM hubs yet because I don't know exactly where I'll be mounting them. So I cannot tell you on which hub the fans will be connected.

I'm not trolling you, I am asking direct specific questions, if you cant understand what I am asking, then there is an obvious issue with reading comprehension and I should create a wall of text just so you can understand what is being asked in context of the whole discussion.

What I do know is that is that I dont think you know how the Phanteks PWM hubs actually work, according to the information you provided of how you intend "all 9 fans" to work for you. I wanted to try to help, but... So good luck with that.

Other than that, its a nice case design.

 

[hertz9753]

I know that @Duality92 is a respected member of the staff on another website but he can't tell you about that.

 

[Duality92]

I'm not trolling you, I am asking direct specific questions, if you cant understand what I am asking, then there is an obvious issue with reading comprehension and I should create a wall of text just so you can understand what is being asked in context of the whole discussion.

What I do know is that is that I dont think you know how the Phanteks PWM hubs actually work, according to the information you provided of how you intend "all 9 fans" to work for you. I wanted to try to help, but... So good luck with that.

Other than that, its a nice case design.

I do know how the hub works. It will control PWM fans based on the lead going to the motherboard and only report back RPM signal of the first one connected (in the first slot on the hub). For non-PWM fans, they will just run at 100% because they will not get modulated.

Do you know how PWM works?

 

[Duality92]

Just to let you all know, I should be getting pictures of the assembled case today To not reveal too much the paper backing will remain (it's actually to protect it during shipping, but helps to not reveal too much

 

[Duality92]

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[Duality92]

I can't tell you exactly what but I've got something big coming. Something Pascal big from Gigabyte.

 

[Vario]

I love that grill pattern!

 

[Duality92]

I love that grill pattern!

That's the custom work I had frozenQ do!

Along with dual ITX!

 

[Vario]

What kind of price was it to cut it? I'd love to do my front panel or something.

 

[tabascosauz]

Wait, is this just a Parvum case with custom patterns? The "Frozen-Q Apex" branding is somewhat confusing, as is that Frozen-Q "designed" it.

Don't get me wrong, I like the looks of the case. Also, lots of respect as I do recognize you from "that forum" during my time there, particularly of the great final shots of your rather small build in the ISK600. It turns out that we have similar methods of putting our names on the photos we take

 

[Duality92]

Wait, is this just a Parvum case with custom patterns? The "Frozen-Q Apex" branding is somewhat confusing, as is that Frozen-Q "designed" it.

Don't get me wrong, I like the looks of the case. Also, lots of respect as I do recognize you from "that forum" during my time there, particularly of the great final shots of your rather small build in the ISK600. It turns out that we have similar methods of putting our names on the photos we take

Actually, it's a case, made from Frozen-Q (the same guys that make spiral reservoirs). They started making cases in 2009 from acrylic and retailing them in 2012. They just never were known for that

These? https://imageshack.com/a/ORu4/1. I really appreciated the kind words ^^

Is your username the same "over there"?

 

[tabascosauz]

Actually, it's a case, made from Frozen-Q (the same guys that make spiral reservoirs). They started making cases in 2009 from acrylic and retailing them in 2012. They just never were known for that

These? https://imageshack.com/a/ORu4/1. I really appreciated the kind words ^^

Is your username the same "over there"?

That's the build. And yes, name is the same. I moved off to TPU over a year ago. It still kinda sucks that we don't have a little SFF club of our own over here, considering how much work I've done in that field since leaving.

Not sure if "something Pascal big" is a Gigabyte 1070 or a 1080 (or 1080 Ti? ), let's hope for the latter

 

[Duality92]

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That's the build. And yes, name is the same. I moved off to TPU over a year ago. It still kinda sucks that we don't have a little SFF club of our own over here, considering how much work I've done in that field since leaving.

Not sure if "something Pascal big" is a Gigabyte 1070 or a 1080 (or 1080 Ti? ), let's hope for the latter

1080 Ti would be eeepppiicccc, but I didn't aim that high

Do you mind sharing with me why you left? (you can PM me if you wish)

 

[tabascosauz]

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1080 Ti would be eeepppiicccc, but I didn't aim that high

Do you mind sharing with me why you left? (you can PM me if you wish)

IMO TPU has a little more in the "community" aspect, less talk and more discussion. That's just the feeling I had. Also a better alerts system in place here. TPU is smaller though, which probably accounts for all these.

@hertz9753 Acrylic.

 

[hertz9753]

I am a retired staff member from that other site. I still contribute here and there.

What is that case made out of? I think I missed that post.

 

[Duality92]

I am a retired staff member from that other site. I still contribute here and there.

What is that case made out of? I think I missed that post.

Acrylic

 

[Duality92]