Was Windows Vista really that bad?

dorsetknob · Nov 25, 2016

Microsoft Vista

"" Microsofts least Pirated O/S""

That in itself say's lots

Champ · Nov 25, 2016

I enjoyed Vista. If I were forced to, I could go back

FireFox · Nov 25, 2016

Champ said:
I enjoyed Vista. If I were forced to, I could go back

Why do you lie to yourself :slap:

This is how you looks like when using Vista

Aquinus · Nov 25, 2016

It was pretty bad before the first service pack. After that, most of the bigger issues had been smoothed out.

qubit · Nov 25, 2016

I'm surprised that no one's talking about the gaming performance. In that video it was always lagging XP 64-bit and W10 to some degree.

Beastie · Nov 25, 2016

Vista is not fundamentally that bad except it was very badly executed. Microsoft addressed the issues that had arisen with XP very well but completely screwed up where XP suceeded.

As a user interface XP was the best iteration IMO.

newtekie1 · Nov 25, 2016

qubit said:
I'm surprised that no one's talking about the gaming performance. In that video it was always lagging XP 64-bit and W10, to some degree.

The difference in my experience wasn't noticeable.

AsRock · Nov 25, 2016

fullinfusion said:
I loved Vista till I bought my first SSD and needed Trim... So yeah it was bad.

I'm a creature of habit and hate change but I adapt!

I believe it was my reason of moving away from Vista or else i would not have done.

qubit · Nov 25, 2016

newtekie1 said:
The difference in my experience wasn't noticeable.

Yeah, the video also said it wasn't really noticeable without measuring it.

Grings · Nov 26, 2016

Who needs ssd's when you've got readyboost? :cool:

NdMk2o1o · Nov 26, 2016

If you were too lazy to tweak Vista and disable all the crap that made it run like a dog then you have no room to complain in this thread, I did it with XP why should it be any different in Vista? and if you tried to run it on a P4 with 1GB RAM then that's your fault not Vista's, XP ran fine with 128MB RAM also if all you ever did was start your PC and stare at the desktop without running any programs, I know, I ran it on a Pentium 2.......

dorsetknob · Nov 26, 2016

NdMk2o1o said:
XP ran fine with 128MB RAM also if all you ever did was start your PC and stare at the desktop without running any programs, I know, I ran it on a Pentium 2.......

i still got a 266mhz p11 dell laptop running XP tho its got 256m/b ram

I do fire her up ocasionaly

Pics in nostalgia thread (still viewable i hope )

Mussels · Nov 26, 2016

dorsetknob said:
i still got a 266mhz p11 dell laptop running XP tho its got 256m/b ram
I do fire her up ocasionaly
Pics in nostalgia thread (still viewable i hope )

i've got a tweaked XP ISO i made that uses 80MB of ram on a clean boot - we used it at my last work for all the POS (point of sale, aka piece of shit) systems with 128MB of ram.

THE_EGG · Nov 26, 2016

I never had any issues either really, it worked great when I had a Toshiba Portege R400 convertible (convertible ultrabook of its day?). The little aux LED Edge Display worked with Vista and told me if I had any new emails, calendar reminders etc.

Aquinus · Nov 26, 2016

My biggest issue with Vista prior to SP1 was copying files over a network. Other than that, it really wasn't too bad. I honestly think that these "major updates" for Windows 10 are causing more problems than I ever had with Vista.

R-T-B · Nov 26, 2016

Grings said:
Who needs ssd's when you've got readyboost?

I wanted to form a reply to this post, but your avatar beat me to it.

FreedomEclipse · Nov 26, 2016

Of course it was bad.... It took away hardware acceleration. EAX supported games became extremely buggy after that if EAX was enabled and Creative Alchemy while it worked, didnt always get the best results

qubit · Nov 26, 2016

Mussels said:
i've got a tweaked XP ISO i made that uses 80MB of ram on a clean boot - we used it at my last work for all the POS (point of sale, aka piece of shit) systems with 128MB of ram.

Just 80MB? Must run like greased lightening on better hardware!

Mussels · Nov 26, 2016

qubit said:
Just 80MB? Must run like greased lightening on better hardware!

our "server" was an athlon 64 with 512MB of ram and it ran awesomely. Irony is that you cant even install a modern web browser with so little ram, nowadays.

BiggieShady · Nov 26, 2016

erocker said:
The answer is yes due to its awful memory management alone. If it wasn't that bad it wouldn't of been replaced so quickly.

I agree ...

... except for one thing, of you realized yet what you of done? Of you or ofn't you?

FreedomEclipse · Nov 26, 2016

BiggieShady said:
I agree ...

... except for one thing, of you realized yet what you of done? Of you or ofn't you?

Download more ram?

qubit · Nov 26, 2016

Mussels said:
our "server" was an athlon 64 with 512MB of ram and it ran awesomely. Irony is that you cant even install a modern web browser with so little ram, nowadays.

You've gotta install it on a modern system just for giggles and watch it really fly.

You'll have to get round the AHCI driver catch 22 of course...

newconroer · Nov 26, 2016

Melvis said:
The damage had already been done to Vista before SP2 came out and statistics proves this but after Windows 8/8.1 and 10 came out I think Vista isnt as bad anymore lol but......its still a resource hog and loves to do the whole "not responding" thing alot.

Also most of the machines ive seen with Vista are running 32bit, super rare to see a 64bit version and the system specs were appalling, 512MB to 2GB RAM? really.

I feel the same about Windows 10. It got increasingly terrible right up until the first large patch was rolled out, which made it then twice as good. I am not surprised businesses reverted back to Windows 7.

BiggieShady · Nov 26, 2016

FreedomEclipse said:
Download more ram?

Have course what else, I don't of enough ram, you know me too well

Disparia · Nov 26, 2016

Went for the first option as there was nothing that could have redeemed it for me.

There was about a 9 month span where I was using Windows 7 at home and Vista at work. 8hrs on one, 8hrs on the other... it was maddening.

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Was Windows Vista really that bad?

Was Vista really that bad?

Yes - nothing could redeem it

Yes - before SP2. Ran ok after that

Neither - it was much like any other OS

No - the problems were exaggerated

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