OFFICIAL Doom (Discussion)

[Cvrk]

I never got into the titles prior to Doom 3

Same!

Still , can we add another planet, one that has a lot of vegetation ?

 

[Damocles]

Same!

Still , can we add another planet, one that has a lot of vegetation ?

Personaly, I would really like that

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Same!
Still , can we add another planet, one that has a lot of vegetation ?

It is kinda odd that they never even have any rooms that grow crops for the crews on Mars. I know Dead Space had that, and several space movies have. The "poop potatoes" from Martian were rather amusing.

 

[RejZoR]

System Shock 2 had entire deck of the Von Braun space ship dedicated to hydroponics.

 

[jormungand]

Just arrived to hell..... boom boom boom turn your back cuz a peep is coming to surprise you from behind.... boom boom supershotgun always fun.

 

[Disco5]

I dont do politics, more so if its labour involved.

 

[Melvis]

DOOM just reminds me of UT and Quake really but the spawning into a big devil like creature is pretty cool.

I have tried DOOM on three different PC's and here are my results from all three.

The AMD 8350 and GTX 970 runs really well. OpenGL Performance is 60-115FPS, on Vulkan its 80-140FPS and CPU usage on all 8 cores at around 70%, was very impressed! Maxed out settings

intel i7 970 and GTX 670 runs not bad on Open GL Performance 50-85FPS, on Vulkan I think it ran worse honestly and took many tries just to get the game to boot on Vulkan. Maxed out settings.

intel i7 2600 and GTX 650Ti runs slow on OpenGL at 20-40FPS on Vulkan and worse or the same, basically card isnt good enough for this game and this was set at Medium settings.

My mate has SLi GTX 770's and he says on Vulkan it runs like crap so to me byt the looks of things you need a GPU of a GTX 900 series or above to take good advantage of Vulkans API.

I dont have any AMD Cards test to see how they compare.

Anyone else having the same sorta results that I have been getting? and this game is super picky when loading up, if I click on anything else while its loading it will crash, kind of a pain in the ass really.

 

[dcf-joe]

I bought Doom during this most recent Steam sale for $20 and what a blast it was!

I did play it on the easiest setting because I just wanted to get through the story but it still took me about 13 hours to complete. I LOVED the almost non-stop action, going from battleground to battleground.

 

[Melvis]

Anyone having issues in DOOM after the 12gb update? im getting lots of slow down spikes now on my gtx 670, basically makes the game very hard to play now...

 

[cdawall]

Stupid question for those of you in here, what is the status of xfire support on the vulkan profile? Second card does nothing on my rig

 

[Drone]

Doom 4 Was Cancelled Because It Felt Too Much Like CoD

 

[Drone]

 

[Drone]

Part 2 & 3 of Noclip documentary Doom Resurrected

 

[Drone]

 

[stoggs1]

Doom is my personal game of the year, if not decade. I have put almost 80 hours in it so far two campaign play throughs, first on ultra violence, second on nightmare and playing alot of snapmap, which there are now hundreds if not thousands of playable maps, including multi level campaigns usually 4 or 5 maps but most of what i have played on there has been very high quality. Mp is decent, they fixed alot of the issues the mp had on the beta and at launch, its not great but its fun to jump in and do a few matches here and there.

And Doom 2016 is probably the best single player fps I have played, the gameplay is almost perfect and very satisfying, feels so much smoother than any shooter i can think of and its insanely fun and a great stress relieving game. come home after a crappy day load up some doom and blast some demons back to hell with your shotgun and bfg.

And one last thing, using vulkan the game runs freaking awesome on my aging hardware. With most settings on ultra I sit between 45 and 60 fps with 60 as my average at 1080p on most maps except the third level faundry and second to last level I am vega which I had drop some settings down to get a better framerate.

Overall Doom 2016 is the s**t

 

[neatfeatguy]

I finished Doom - it was a good shooter, but it wasn't Doom as how I remembered the original through Doom 3.

This Doom was faster, much like the original Doom - that was nice. Doom 3 was slowed down and became a monster closet FPS - which was tedious, especially with the "you can't have your flashlight and a gun out at the same time".
The original Doom thru Doom 3, they all gave you moments that made you jump. Something unexpected comes roaring out at you when you thought you were safe. The new Doom lacked this, which is sad.

I felt like I was playing a cross between original Doom 3 and Quake 4. It had the story (doom soldier, fighting the hell spawn and blah, blah, blah), but it lacked the tense, surprise you with a monster that comes out roaring (loud roar, make you jump and run like hell for a moment)! It had the faster pace of Quake 4 and had a similar art style as it (from what I remember - I didn't actually compare images), but had all trademark Doom hell creatures.

Don't get me wrong, it was a fun and pretty entertaining shooter, but it didn't feel like Doom. I spent about 11 hours playing on normal (hurt me plenty, I think was the difficulty) and it didn't seem all that hard. The bigger demons weren't harder, they just took more shots to kill over the weak demons. I did enjoy the gory kills, those were fun. Get a target stunned and go in for the up close and personal death strike - I did them all the time, as much as I could. I think that's what really kept me playing. The story was okay and the ending was about what I expected. I liked how you obtained a "second jump" - nice to see it in a game and used well. I also liked being able to climb/grab ledges, it added depth to the maps and in some areas you could get to the main objective going 2 different ways. And as always - the chainsaw was very fun.

Upgrading weapons was too easy - it should have really limited it more and forced you to focus on a couple of weapons instead of being able to upgrade them all. My favorite weapon was the pistol, I maxed that out first and then I took up the explosive round for the shotgun - I used those two weapons the most. I tried seeking out secrets - some that I found were a bit tricky to find and others were very simple and shouldn't have been a secret.

The game ran flawlessly on my system. I was a bit disappointed when the game didn't support 5760x1080 very well. I could run the game on that resolution, but everything was horribly stretched, it looked bad. I had to settle for 1920x1080, but it looked really good with everything maxed. I however did turn off motion blur (god how I hate motion blur) and ambient occlusion since a few other games I've played that had that option made for blurred lights all mashed together and it caused issues with how the game actually looked.

If I had to rate this game as an actual Doom game - 6/10 (lacked that Doom feeling of tense, make you jump moments and was overly bright....didn't have the looming sense of doom atmosphere)
If I had to rate this game as a FPS shooter that isn't a Doom game - 8/10 (story lacking and same tactics worked, constant running in circles and shooting things...it got a bit dull)

Certainly enjoyable and I'd say was a good $20 spent.

 

[uuuaaaaaa]

I finished Doom - it was a good shooter, but it wasn't Doom as how I remembered the original through Doom 3.

This Doom was faster, much like the original Doom - that was nice. Doom 3 was slowed down and became a monster closet FPS - which was tedious, especially with the "you can't have your flashlight and a gun out at the same time".
The original Doom thru Doom 3, they all gave you moments that made you jump. Something unexpected comes roaring out at you when you thought you were safe. The new Doom lacked this, which is sad.

I felt like I was playing a cross between original Doom 3 and Quake 4. It had the story (doom soldier, fighting the hell spawn and blah, blah, blah), but it lacked the tense, surprise you with a monster that comes out roaring (loud roar, make you jump and run like hell for a moment)! It had the faster pace of Quake 4 and had a similar art style as it (from what I remember - I didn't actually compare images), but had all trademark Doom hell creatures.

Don't get me wrong, it was a fun and pretty entertaining shooter, but it didn't feel like Doom. I spent about 11 hours playing on normal (hurt me plenty, I think was the difficulty) and it didn't seem all that hard. The bigger demons weren't harder, they just took more shots to kill over the weak demons. I did enjoy the gory kills, those were fun. Get a target stunned and go in for the up close and personal death strike - I did them all the time, as much as I could. I think that's what really kept me playing. The story was okay and the ending was about what I expected. I liked how you obtained a "second jump" - nice to see it in a game and used well. I also liked being able to climb/grab ledges, it added depth to the maps and in some areas you could get to the main objective going 2 different ways. And as always - the chainsaw was very fun.

Upgrading weapons was too easy - it should have really limited it more and forced you to focus on a couple of weapons instead of being able to upgrade them all. My favorite weapon was the pistol, I maxed that out first and then I took up the explosive round for the shotgun - I used those two weapons the most. I tried seeking out secrets - some that I found were a bit tricky to find and others were very simple and shouldn't have been a secret.

The game ran flawlessly on my system. I was a bit disappointed when the game didn't support 5760x1080 very well. I could run the game on that resolution, but everything was horribly stretched, it looked bad. I had to settle for 1920x1080, but it looked really good with everything maxed. I however did turn off motion blur (god how I hate motion blur) and ambient occlusion since a few other games I've played that had that option made for blurred lights all mashed together and it caused issues with how the game actually looked.

If I had to rate this game as an actual Doom game - 6/10 (lacked that Doom feeling of tense, make you jump moments and was overly bright....didn't have the looming sense of doom atmosphere)
If I had to rate this game as a FPS shooter that isn't a Doom game - 8/10 (story lacking and same tactics worked, constant running in circles and shooting things...it got a bit dull)

Certainly enjoyable and I'd say was a good $20 spent.

Sounds like you should have played in Nightmare difficulty!

 

[neatfeatguy]

Sounds like you should have played in Nightmare difficulty!

Eh...difficulty of taking fewer hits before you die or monsters requiring more shots before they die doesn't make the game any more fun, just more tedious. The same tactics would be needed, run, jump shoot, run jump shoot. Take the high ground, shoot stuff until you kill them all or they come up to greet you on your perch. Then you jump down and run around to the other side, shoot until they're all dead or they come to greet you again.....rinse and repeat.

The Revenant, for example, wasn't a tough creature. The rockets are slow and easily avoidable. A few well placed rocket launcher shots or a few well placed explosive shotgun rounds put them down.
The Mancubus weren't difficult either - 4-5 fully leveled explosive shotgun rounds would kill them or stun them so I could gory kill them. They're slow, easy to out maneuver and shoot from their flank.
The Imps, they were entertaining. They moved quick and were a pretty good shot with their fireballs. They could flank you quick if you stopped moving and were usually the group of demons that posed the most threat to me. You'd think you're safe and next thing you know a fireball hits you from the side or one of them has scampered up to my ledge from behind and is kicking my butt.
The Summoners were a bit tough when I first meet them, but after having lock on rocket launcher shots, they were very easy.
BFG ammo was too plentiful. I almost always had full ammo, even after using one or two shots to clear out the massive swarm of demons I was up against. A few minutes would go by and I'd come across another BFG shot.

The one complaint I do have about the game - the power ups. They're all pretty much right out in the open for you. You didn't have to work for them or find them in a secret area. Right smack dab in the middle is the power up....it was too convenient and seemed lazy on the dev's part to just plop them in the middle of the area right in the open and in very easy to reach spots. I recall having to work for some of the powerups in the original Doom (but you never know, my memory isn't what it used to be and original Doom play through happened for me a long time ago).

The pace of the game was certainly faster over Doom 3 and more inline with the original Doom, but it wasn't really challenging. It was fun, fast paced and lots of action. Certainly a solid shooter and something any FPS fan should play.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Eh...difficulty of taking fewer hits before you die or monsters requiring more shots before they die doesn't make the game any more fun, just more tedious. The same tactics would be needed, run, jump shoot, run jump shoot. Take the high ground, shoot stuff until you kill them all or they come up to greet you on your perch. Then you jump down and run around to the other side, shoot until they're all dead or they come to greet you again.....rinse and repeat.

Except for one thing, you really can't afford as many hits on Nightmare, so you have to pretty much move constantly or find a good defensible position. Just one Imp you didn't happen to see can easily kill you, even from far away.

The Revenant, for example, wasn't a tough creature. The rockets are slow and easily avoidable. A few well placed rocket launcher shots or a few well placed explosive shotgun rounds put them down.
The Mancubus weren't difficult either - 4-5 fully leveled explosive shotgun rounds would kill them or stun them so I could gory kill them. They're slow, easy to out maneuver and shoot from their flank.
The Imps, they were entertaining. They moved quick and were a pretty good shot with their fireballs. They could flank you quick if you stopped moving and were usually the group of demons that posed the most threat to me. You'd think you're safe and next thing you know a fireball hits you from the side or one of them has scampered up to my ledge from behind and is kicking my butt.

Again, one by itself is never a problem, but several of them, or one or two combined with other creatures running around, then you have a problem, especially on Nightmare. You're right about Imps though, they're fast, and can sneak up on you. One you didn't mention was Pinkies. While they are slower and can't see well, you can't afford to get hit by them.

The Summoners were a bit tough when I first meet them, but after having lock on rocket launcher shots, they were very easy.

I stun them with Plasma Bomb, then RL, unless it's a spot where they spawn early and there's a Berserker power up. Then I just punch them dead right away.

BFG ammo was too plentiful. I almost always had full ammo, even after using one or two shots to clear out the massive swarm of demons I was up against. A few minutes would go by and I'd come across another BFG shot.

Again, depends what mode you play on. On the two higher difficulty levels, it comes in quite handy.

The one complaint I do have about the game - the power ups. They're all pretty much right out in the open for you. You didn't have to work for them or find them in a secret area. Right smack dab in the middle is the power up....it was too convenient and seemed lazy on the dev's part to just plop them in the middle of the area right in the open and in very easy to reach spots.

I think they placed them well. With as many demons that spawn, you need to know where they are and be able to get to that spot when you need them, and they DO often involve getting to them via a a gap jump. Plus what they did very well is hide many of the things you need to get to for upgrade points, and let's face it, those are just as important as powerups, if not more so, because most of the time you're just using the weapons, not powerups.

The pace of the game was certainly faster over Doom 3 and more inline with the original Doom, but it wasn't really challenging.

Then again you weren't playing on one of the harder modes.

 

[neatfeatguy]

One you didn't mention was Pinkies. While they are slower and can't see well, you can't afford to get hit by them.

Pinkies didn't pose much threat. Sure, they came in groups of 2-3 at a time. By the time you kill one off, you can easily chainsaw another and if there's a third just a little dancing and shooting.

Only time they got me was if I was in a bad position to begin with (in a corner or under a platform where I can't quickly jump out of the way). A few instances I would get stuck on the environment (unable to jump, move) and get blasted by them. A few different places this happened to me - I jump down to a lower level and get hung up on the wall or a ledge and I couldn't move (only happened on indoor areas).

The game was very quiet for a Doom game. There was a lot of ambient noises (demons making sounds in the background and so on), but the actual demons you faced made very little noise....except for those screaming skulls. They screamed when they charged you. Everything else was pretty quiet.

I think they placed them well. With as many demons that spawn, you need to know where they are and be able to get to that spot when you need them, and they DO often involve getting to them via a a gap jump. Plus what they did very well is hide many of the things you need to get to for upgrade points, and let's face it, those are just as important as powerups, if not more so, because most of the time you're just using the weapons, not powerups.

I think they were all very easily accessible. Jump up to a ledge right above you or it's just hoovering in the corner. I loved the berserk powerup, always fun smashing demons into pieces, they're just conveniently located and right there. Actually having to work a bit to get them while running from demons would be better - up on a ledge that took some jumping/climbing to reach or finding a switch to flip so you could unlock the door that blocked your access to the powerup, something a bit more than just here, right in the middle of the room on a ledge that requires 1 jump to get to.

I may try nightmare mode when I get more time, but it won't be anytime soon....maybe this weekend.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

I may try nightmare mode when I get more time...

Well, you can't really make a threat assessment on the game unless you do. I doubt I'll bother with Ultra Nightmare though. I don't mind a mode like Dead Space 2 had, where you could pick 3 spots in the game to save, but if you have to restart the whole game after death, especially when it's so easy to miss a simple Imp or something, it becomes rather obnoxious. Nine times out of ten when I get killed by a Revanent, Pinkie or Cacodemon, it's because I was avoiding Imp fireballs or swats, and got caught off guard. They're clever little bastards.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Stupid question for those of you in here, what is the status of xfire support on the vulkan profile? Second card does nothing on my rig

Doesn't work here either multi GPU support is lacking it seems.
Rock steady 40 FPS at 4k nightmare settings and it plays better than I expect your now thinking it does

 

[cdawall]

Doesn't work here either multi GPU support is lacking it seems.
Rock steady 40 FPS at 4k nightmare settings and it plays better than I expect your now thinking it does

It plays pretty well with my single card

 

[Mussels]

DOOM just reminds me of UT and Quake really but the spawning into a big devil like creature is pretty cool.

I have tried DOOM on three different PC's and here are my results from all three.

The AMD 8350 and GTX 970 runs really well. OpenGL Performance is 60-115FPS, on Vulkan its 80-140FPS and CPU usage on all 8 cores at around 70%, was very impressed! Maxed out settings

intel i7 970 and GTX 670 runs not bad on Open GL Performance 50-85FPS, on Vulkan I think it ran worse honestly and took many tries just to get the game to boot on Vulkan. Maxed out settings.

intel i7 2600 and GTX 650Ti runs slow on OpenGL at 20-40FPS on Vulkan and worse or the same, basically card isnt good enough for this game and this was set at Medium settings.

My mate has SLi GTX 770's and he says on Vulkan it runs like crap so to me byt the looks of things you need a GPU of a GTX 900 series or above to take good advantage of Vulkans API.

I dont have any AMD Cards test to see how they compare.

Anyone else having the same sorta results that I have been getting? and this game is super picky when loading up, if I click on anything else while its loading it will crash, kind of a pain in the ass really.

vulkan only uses one GPU - openGL and SLI would give him a lot better performance

 

[dcf-joe]

Does anybody know if there is a Game Plus mode where after you beat the campaign, you can start over with all of the weapons and upgrades that you had from the previous playthrough?