Added DDR3 2400 to Rampage Extreme III Need Help

[Random Murderer]

Ok Playing with the QPI/DRAM Core Voltage. When I got to 1.65 got a warning that according to INTEL that is too high??? Is that the wrong variable to set?

No, that is the correct voltage. Raise it to 1.65V but no higher.

 

[jack d]

Ok Playing with the QPI/DRAM Core Voltage. When I got to 1.65 got a warning that according to INTEL that is too high??? Is that the wrong variable to set?

Sorry I was setting the DRAM Bus Voltage. Still can't find anything that looks like VTT or VTT core.

 

[Random Murderer]

Sorry I was setting the DRAM Bus Voltage. Still can't find anything that looks like VTT or VTT core.

VTT is also known as QPI on the X58 chipset, see if you don't have a QPI Core Voltage or something similar.
It's also worth mentioning that DRAM Core voltage and DRAM Bus Voltage are NOT the same.
DRAM Core voltage is your QPI voltage, DRAM Bus voltage is your RAM's voltage.

 

[jack d]

Ok Playing with the QPI/DRAM Core Voltage. When I got to 1.65 got a warning that according to INTEL that is too high??? Is that the wrong variable to set?

Set DRAM Bus voltage as close to 1.65 as possible without going over.
still can't find anything that looks like VTT or VTT core

VTT is also known as QPI on the X58 chipset, see if you don't have a QPI Core Voltage or something similar.

Ah. I see a QPI/ DRAM Core voltage. Would that be it?

 

[Random Murderer]

Ah. I see a QPI/ DRAM Core voltage. Would that be it?

That's it. That is the voltage for VTT/QPI and setting it higher can help with high BCLK overclocks as well as high memory speeds. Try setting this to 1.35V, but no higher. Since you're on a 32nm chip, setting it higher than 1.35V could cause degradation. If 1.35V on the QPI and 1.65V on the DRAM Bus gets you stable, try going back and lowering QPI one step at a time until you find instability.

 

[jack d]

Set DRAM Bus voltage as close to 1.65 as possible without going over.
still can't find anything that looks like VTT or VTT core

Ah. I see a QPI/ DRAM Core voltage. Would that be it?

Oops. Ok. I set the DRAM Bus at just under 1.65 (defined increments so couldn't get closer without going over). Set the QPI/DRAM Core Voltage exactly at 1.35. Got BSOD.

So now what?

 

[jack d]

Oops. Ok. I set the DRAM Bus at just under 1.65 (defined increments so couldn't get closer without going over). Set the QPI/DRAM Core Voltage exactly at 1.35. Got BSOD.

So now what?

I'm back in BIOS. At DRAM Frequency I see a note that says for "locked CPU" only DDR3-800 and DDR3-1066 can work. Is that significant?

 

[Ferrum Master]

You have a xeon?

 

[jack d]

You have a xeon?

No

 

[Random Murderer]

Not to sound like an ass, but this may be a bit beyond you. I suggest you do some reading on overclocking the X58 platform, here would be a great place to start.
X58 can be super finicky when it comes to RAM. The fact that you're trying to run 6x 4GB sticks at high speeds is difficult by itself to achieve on this platform, but if you're not familiar with overclocking on this platform, you simply won't get there. You're going to need to get yourself familiar with each of the separate voltages, as well as the several different clock frequencies that are adjustable, and how these frequencies interact with each other. If your CPU only supports up to DDR3-1066, you would need to raise your BCLK to 300 to reach DDR3-2400. 300 BCLK is not going to happen. In fact, even if you could run on the DDR3-1333 divider, you would still need a BCLK of 240 to reach DDR3-2400. Again, not going to happen. With extensive tweaking and a ton of testing, you might hit 220 BCLK if you're lucky. 200-210 BCLK is generally accepted as the max you'll get without insane voltages.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Then you don't have a locked CPU.

Next thing. What is the uncore ratio?


@Random Murderer whats the crack with those FSB numbers? X58 does not have such numbers. Around 200 Max.

And it is a Rampage. It should work at 2200 for sure.

 

[Random Murderer]

Then you don't have a locked CPU.

Even then, that's not 100% true. I recently clocked a system running an X5650 and the DDR3-1333 and 1600 dividers were available for use. Ended up using the DDR3-1333 divider to achieve DDR3-1860.

@Random Murderer whats the crack with those FSB numbers? X58 does not have such numbers. Around 200 Max.

And it is a Rampage. It should work at 2200 for sure.

Just showing how the RAM dividers work in relation to BCLK. I know that the BCLK will top out somewhere around 200, hence why I'm saying higher BCLK won't happen.
If he does in fact have use of higher RAM dividers, he should be able to hit 2200+. Hell, 200 BCLK with a RAM divider of DDR3-1600 should put him at 2400. Also, just because the board is capable of it doesn't mean the other components are, nor does it mean the user is capable of reaching those speeds.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Even then, that's not 100% true. I recently clocked a system running an X5650 and the DDR3-1333 and 1600 dividers were available for use. Ended up using the DDR3-1333 divider to achieve DDR3-1860.

Rampage is a bad kid. It disobeys intel. It is the only board that even allows moving uncore ratio for Xeons. I have had 4 x58 boards with various CPU's.

Anyway. It is a fun platform. It needs hugs and love and right words(settings) to start working. Usually a lot of voltage too lol.

BTW 1860MHz with better timings is nice too.

 

[Random Murderer]

Rampage is a bad kid. It disobeys intel. It is the only board that even allows moving uncore ratio for Xeons. I have had 4 x58 boards with various CPU's.

Anyway. It is a fun platform. It needs hugs and love and right words(settings) to start working. Usually a lot of voltage too lol.

BTW 1860MHz with better timings is nice too.

Odd, the P6T Deluxe flashed to WS I've been clocking on allows for that. Maybe it's just luck of the draw, but I was able to use memory dividers I wasn't supposed to be able to with a Xeon as well as adjust QPI and uncore ratios.
And yes, totally agreed that the X58 platform requires a ton of tinkering to get things where you want them. Part of the reason I've fallen in love with it.

 

[jsfitz54]

Stop trying for 2400 and stick with 2133 @ 1.65v.
Run at 2T with all ram slots loaded.
Manually set ram speed. XMP @ 2400 most likely will not work.

 

[jack d]

Not to sound like an ass, but this may be a bit beyond you. I suggest you do some reading on overclocking the X58 platform, here would be a great place to start.
X58 can be super finicky when it comes to RAM. The fact that you're trying to run 6x 4GB sticks at high speeds is difficult by itself to achieve on this platform, but if you're not familiar with overclocking on this platform, you simply won't get there. You're going to need to get yourself familiar with each of the separate voltages, as well as the several different clock frequencies that are adjustable, and how these frequencies interact with each other. If your CPU only supports up to DDR3-1066, you would need to raise your BCLK to 300 to reach DDR3-2400. 300 BCLK is not going to happen. In fact, even if you could run on the DDR3-1333 divider, you would still need a BCLK of 240 to reach DDR3-2400. Again, not going to happen. With extensive tweaking and a ton of testing, you might hit 220 BCLK if you're lucky. 200-210 BCLK is generally accepted as the max you'll get without insane voltages.

No offense taken. I agree that this is beyond me at this point and I'm not sure I want to go deeper into it. I was hoping that a few tweaks would get me there but either I'm just missing something obvious or it is not that straightforward.

 

[Recon-UK]

You may find you will need to go looser with timings if it blue screens, X58 is delicate with RAS latency, so just drop your CL 1 and it should be fine, especially above 1600mhz.

The i7's were only rated for 1066mhz, 32nm westmere was 1333 with a revised mem controller.

 

[jack d]

Stop trying for 2400 and stick with 2133 @ 1.65v.
Run at 2T with all ram slots loaded.
Manually set ram speed. XMP @ 2400 most likely will not work.

I'm not sure what you are suggesting I do exactly. I see all the variables in your picture but I'm not sure if you mean I should set all those manually or what. Sorry but as I said before, I am pretty much a newb at this stuff. It would be nice if I could salvage the situation since I have the 24 GB or DDRS2400. If I could tweak the settings to get more than what the default is setting that would be great even if I can't get to 2400.

 

[jsfitz54]

I'm not sure what you are suggesting I do exactly. I see all the variables in your picture but I'm not sure if you mean I should set all those manually or what. Sorry but as I said before, I am pretty much a newb at this stuff. It would be nice if I could salvage the situation since I have the 24 GB or DDRS2400. If I could tweak the settings to get more than what the default is setting that would be great even if I can't get to 2400.

In Bios set RAM to Manual. Do not use XMP.
Set CPU to AUTO.
Try manual ram timing at 9-11-10-28, 2T @1.65v or 11-11-11-28.

Corsair @ 2400 Timing is 11-13-13-31 use cpu-z to determine JEDEC, SPD.
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

After you flashed to newest BIOS 1502, did you "load defaults" and reboot?

Don't have any hard drives connected when you are doing this.

 

[jack d]

In Bios set RAM to Manual. Do not use XMP.
Set CPU to AUTO.
Try manual ram timing at 9-11-10-28, 2T @1.65v or 11-11-11-28.

Corsair @ 2400 Timing is 11-13-13-31 use cpu-z to determine JEDEC, SPD.
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

After you flashed to newest BIOS 1502, did you "load defaults" and reboot?

Don't have any hard drives connected when you are doing this.

Will give it a try. Yes after I loaded the BIOS 1502 I did load defaults and reboot.

 

[jack d]

In Bios set RAM to Manual. Do not use XMP.
Set CPU to AUTO.
Try manual ram timing at 9-11-10-28, 2T @1.65v or 11-11-11-28.

Corsair @ 2400 Timing is 11-13-13-31 use cpu-z to determine JEDEC, SPD.
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

After you flashed to newest BIOS 1502, did you "load defaults" and reboot?

Don't have any hard drives connected when you are doing this.

Where do I set the 2T? Don't see anything in the DRAM Timing Control page.

 

[jsfitz54]

Where do I set the 2T? Don't see anything in the DRAM Timing Control page.

It should be where the manual memory timings are, you may have to scroll down. I will reboot and double check.

 

[jack d]

Where do I set the 2T? Don't see anything in the DRAM Timing Control page.

Hmm. I tried those settings but now I can't even get the POST screen to get into the BIOS. What's up with that?

 

[jsfitz54]

2T is = to 2N.

Hmm. I tried those settings but now I can't even get the POST screen to get into the BIOS. What's up with that?

You may need to use the Bios Reset button.

 

[jack d]

2T is = to 2N.



You may need to use the Bios Reset button.

Ok So first line in 2nd information is where I set to 2T? Where is the BIOS reset button? Sorry for the dumb questions. Thanks.