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Remember how the x86 and x86-64 licensing agreements went that would be IP sharing to a t.
Not the same thing. That agreement allowed each company to share each others IP so both companies could make competing products that were compatible with a common WINTEL platform running a common OS.

The Ford-GM agreement is also a collaborative effort in the development of a 10 speed tranny both will use.

This AMD/Intel agreement allows for one company to stop producing a product while the other company takes over production.

I've made my case with supporting evidence because as I noted, I don't expect you to believe me just because I say so.

Others can read the links to that supporting evidence I provided and decide for themselves. Of course, only time will tell.
 
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Not the same thing. That agreement allowed each company to share each others IP so both companies could make competing products that were compatible with a common WINTEL platform running a common OS.

The Ford-GM agreement is also a collaborative effort in the development of a 10 speed tranny both will use.

This AMD/Intel agreement allows for one company to stop producing a product while the other company takes over production.

I've made my case with supporting evidence because as I noted, I don't expect you to believe me just because I say so.

Others can read the links to that supporting evidence I provided and decide for themselves. Of course, only time will tell.

Ford/GM have shared transmissions long before the 10 spd 2002 was the start of their first joint venture ;) Also remember this doesn't actually say Intel will use a radeon GPU as their IGP. It says they will license IP. This could be as was said just Intel making sure they do not infringe on a patent AMD holds for an item Intel designed completely in house. There is a lot of assumption in this thread, my personal bet Intel is using a similar setup to AMD for the new core designs and integration of the GPU.

But in this specific case, it's going to hurt AMD. Sure, they'll get financial injection short term, but long term, GPU's are what gives them edge over ALL Intel products, especially with their APUs. If Intel licenses that, AMD basically loses the only edge. Unless they have a limited range of products that will be licensed while higher end GPUs for APUs will remain under their control. Then, it can still be beneficial.

Iris PRO based Intel chips already mop the floor with AMD chips.
 
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Ford also works with Mazda, Renault works with Nissan, Samsung works with Renault (yeah, Samsung cars exist in South Korea) and there are many other collaborations with engines alone.
 

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Ford also works with Mazda, Renault works with Nissan, Samsung works with Renault (yeah, Samsung cars exist in South Korea) and there are many other collaborations with engines alone.

Ford and GM are big name US competitors that is why I used them specifically. Ford used to own Mazda, I imagine that has a lot to do with sharing on that front.
 
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Ford/GM have shared transmissions long before the 10 spd 2002 was the start of their first joint venture ;) Also remember this doesn't actually say Intel will use a radeon GPU as their IGP. It says they will license IP.
This is quibbling over semantics and unimportant details. So what if Ford and GM have shared trannies before the 10 speed? Does it change the facts? No!

And of course Intel will not use the Radeon GPU as their IGP. The IGP is, by definition, integrated on the same die as the CPU. AMD is not going to come over to the Intel foundry and make the IGP portion of the Intel CPUs. :rolleyes:

Ford and GM are big name US competitors that is why I used them specifically.
But AMD and Intel are the only two big GLOBAL competitors. RAM, Toyota, Nissan and Honda all make trucks, and sell them competitively in the US too - not to mention Mitsubishi, Isuzu even Mercedes is stepping into the pickup market. And of course, there are dozens of car and truck makers competing on a global level. All these competitors force innovation, further competition, help keep prices down (or at least slow down price increases) and most importantly, give consumers a wide variety of choices. Consumers can even go to the Chevy/GM truck dealer and threaten to go to the Ford or RAM dealer to force a lower price.

But there are basically only 2 big names sharing the entire world wide market share when it comes to WINTEL based computers consumers can choose from. A joint venture there results in no choices at all in those products. How is that good for consumers? It's not.
 
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This is quibbling over semantics and unimportant details. So what if Ford and GM have shared trannies before the 10 speed? Does it change the facts? No!

And of course Intel will not use the Radeon GPU as their IGP. The IGP is, by definition, integrated on the same die as the CPU. AMD is not going to come over to the Intel foundry and make the IGP portion of the Intel CPUs. :rolleyes:

My point is it hasn't magically caused ford and GM to stop competing. IP sharing is going to happen in tech companies and always will. Otherwise you will see more anti-trust and patent infringement lawsuits. They already have an about to expire IP sharing deal with Nvidia you know that right?

But AMD and Intel are the only two big GLOBAL competitors. RAM, Toyota, Nissan and Honda all make trucks, and sell them competitively in the US too - not to mention Mitsubishi, Isuzu even Mercedes is stepping into the pickup market. And of course, there are dozens of car and truck makers competing on a global level. All these competitors force innovation, further competition, help keep prices down (or at least slow down price increases) and most importantly, give consumers a wide variety of choices. Consumers can even go to the Chevy/GM truck dealer and threaten to go to the Ford or RAM dealer to force a lower price.

But there are basically only 2 big names sharing the entire world wide market share when it comes to WINTEL based computers consumers can choose from. A joint venture there results in no choices at all in those products. How is that good for consumers? It's not.

Ford and GM sell more trucks than the rest of the market combined. This isn't a joint venture it is IP sharing for integrated graphics. There are patent trolls that are surely just waiting for intel's current venture with nvidia to end so they can sue.
 
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My point is it hasn't magically caused ford and GM to stop competing.
:( You don't get the point! Your point has nothing to do with this thread but you refuse to see or admit that.

The world does not rotate around Ford and GM trucks alone. Consumers, especially in Europe and Asia, have MANY other brands and models to choose from. But the world DOES rotate around Intel and AMD if you want to have a PC that runs Windows.

Ford is NOT putting GM transmissions in Ford trucks. GM and Ford are developing transmissions together so each can sell those jointly developed products (which are probably outsourced to a totally different, or jointly owned company. That is TOTALLY different than Intel "throwing in the towel" and Intel "putting AMD GPU tech into Intel's iGPU".

Ford and GM sell more trucks than the rest of the market combined.
What does that have to do with the price of rice in the summertime??? Nothing. Why? Because consumers have more choices than just GM or Ford.

Ford and GM do NOT have a corner of the "global" market. There are many other brands to choose from.
 

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Funny i thought this was a thread about Intel and AMD Graphic's ( ip ) not Bleeding Cars and trucks

You Both gone way off Subject !!!!
Please Get back on topic before you know who Spank's the pair of you
 

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:( You don't get the point! Your point has nothing to do with this thread but you refuse to see or admit that.

The world does not rotate around Ford and GM trucks alone. Consumers, especially in Europe and Asia, have MANY other brands and models to choose from. But the world DOES rotate around Intel and AMD if you want to have a PC that runs Windows.

My point is it hasn't magically caused ford and GM to stop competing. IP sharing is going to happen in tech companies and always will. Otherwise you will see more anti-trust and patent infringement lawsuits. They already have an about to expire IP sharing deal with Nvidia you know that right?

Ford is NOT putting GM transmissions in Ford trucks. GM and Ford are developing transmissions together so each can sell those jointly developed products (which are probably outsourced to a totally different, or jointly owned company. That is TOTALLY different than Intel "throwing in the towel" and Intel "putting AMD GPU tech into Intel's iGPU".

What does that have to do with the price of rice in the summertime??? Nothing. Why? Because consumers have more choices than just GM or Ford.

Ford and GM do NOT have a corner of the "global" market. There are many other brands to choose from.

Ford and GM sell more trucks than the rest of the market combined. This isn't a joint venture it is IP sharing for integrated graphics. There are patent trolls that are surely just waiting for intel's current venture with nvidia to end so they can sue.

Since you ignored what was on topic I have bolded it for ease of reading.

Again since you are missing this (I'll bold it for you) Nvidia has a currently expiring IP agreement with Intel, if Intel wants to continue to have GPU's on their CPU's they need a new IP agreement with either AMD or Nvidia.
 
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Licensing intellectual property just sounds to me like re-branding the Intel Integrated Graphics as "Radeon Graphics".
 
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