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[biffzinker]

Speaking of German, that spiced red wine blend served hot keeps selling out at the store I work at. Couldn't find a picture online so I'll snap one if any are on the shelf. It's on the import wall/shelves.

Up here under Alaska state law all alcohol is required to be located, and sold in a separate store to main one. So Walmart has there main store, and to the left is a smaller store.

Edit: Sorry about the off-topic post.

 

[AwesomeMarioFan]

In case you decide to go for the Quad get a
X5677 stock 3.46GHz turbo 3.73GHz.

That seems to be a lot cheaper than getting 2 X5687's and it seems the only difference is the clock speed, would that make a huge difference?

@AwesomeMarioFan

what do you use the pc for? how much can you spend and which part of the world are you?

add your specs here
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/account/specs

Specs added - I'm looking to use it for virtualization, small amounts of video encoding maybe, some older games, and possibly Dolphin emulator (which I know is CPU heavy). I can spend around ~$150-200 on upgrades and am in the US.

I'm Welsh and i got it.......


Psssssst. It isnt really a joke, with that server board hes better off with a fast quad for similar money (especially as it is a 2P board)

Yeah that's the thing - since its a 2P board I am planning to buy 2 of some processor, so even know it may be cheap for one it gets doubled.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

I'm looking to use it for virtualization, small amounts of video encoding maybe, some older games, and possibly Dolphin emulator (which I know is CPU heavy). I can spend around ~$150-200 on upgrades and am in the US.

Have a look for two X5675

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+X5675+@+3.07GHz

your E5620 for comparison
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5620+@+2.40GHz


Whoops
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matched-Pai...064995?hash=item360c728223:g:KCgAAOSwImRYD91h

 

[FireFox]

Speaking of German, that spiced red wine blend served hot keeps selling out at the store I work at. Couldn't find a picture online so I'll snap one if any are on the shelf. It's on the import wall/shelves.

Up here under Alaska state law all alcohol is required to be located, and sold in a separate store to main one. So Walmart has there main store, and to the left is a smaller store.

Edit: Sorry about the off-topic post.

The name is Glühwein.


German Mulled Wine (Glühwein)

 

[FireFox]

That seems to be a lot cheaper than getting 2 X5687's and it seems the only difference is the clock speed, would that make a huge difference?

I haven't read all your post, but here is my answer: it depends what you will use the Machine for.

 

[AwesomeMarioFan]

Have a look for two X5675

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+X5675+@+3.07GHz


Whoops
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matched-Pai...064995?hash=item360c728223:g:KCgAAOSwImRYD91h

They seem great, the total performance score actually looks like exactly what I am looking for (looking at the passmark specs), do you think it would still run dolphin decently though? The one quad one has 100 more single thread points I believe and then there's the difference in clock speed, but I am not sure if that is negligible. (My current laptop which runs Dolphin nice has a 1600 for its score on single thread, assuming passmark is reputable to judge by)

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

do you think it would still run dolphin decently though?

probably. I dont know so i wont comment further.


that deal i found is best offer, try and knock them down a bit and buy a 120gb SSD with the change from your 200.00 and/or a bit more ram.

 

[FireFox]

One again i repeat my question: what are you going to use the machine for?

 

[AwesomeMarioFan]

probably. I dont know so i wont comment further.


that deal i found is best offer, try and knock them down a bit and buy a 120gb SSD with the change from your 200.00 and/or a bit more ram.

Yep thanks - was planning to get some more RAM. I will be getting home in an hour or so and will have to try the FSB overclock as well, so it's basically:
- Raise by 1
- (If computer doesn't freeze) Run cinebench
- Repeat

 

[AwesomeMarioFan]

One again i repeat my question: what are you going to use the machine for?

I posted above but will copy and paste: I'm looking to use it for virtualization, small amounts of video encoding maybe, some older games, and possibly Dolphin emulator (which I know is CPU heavy).

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Yep thanks - was planning to get some more RAM. I will be getting home in an hour or so and will have to try the FSB overclock as well, so it's basically:
- Raise by 1
- (If computer doesn't freeze) Run cinebench
- Repeat

I usually go shit or bust and work backwards.

Try 180 or something and see what happens. i doubt if your BIOS will let you though.

 

[biffzinker]

do you think it would still run dolphin decently though?

Which CPU should I use?
Dolphin is a dual core application that relies upon IPC (Instructions Per Clock) for performance. Additional cores will not make Dolphin go any faster, though an "extra" core that Dolphin isn’t using may help slightly by keeping background tasks from using the same cores as Dolphin.

• Intel: Newer Core i5 and i7 processors such as the i5-4670K and i5-3570K are extremely fast and very affordable considering their relative power. The K series allows for overclocking, which can further improve the performance of those CPUs. Core i7 variants yield almost no benefit in IPC over the i5s they are based on, so save the cash if you’re building a Dolphin machine. For laptops, you can rely on the i7-4700MQ and i7-4930MX for the absolute best performance. Most games will run very well on any of those processors.
  
  
• AMD: Due to very low IPC, AMD CPUs are poor choices for Dolphin. The FX8000 line of processors is the best they have, and even then most of those processors will be around half the speed of the 4670K’s performance with Dolphin.

Note: For more information regarding CPU performance, please checkout this handy benchmark that contains results from tons of users. Just remember that Dolphin is a console emulator: it does what the games instruct it to do. Every game has its own needs and requirements. Some games run well on most modern processors, while others won’t run full speed at all times on even the most powerful of processors.

https://dolphin-emu.org/docs/faq/

 

[Random Murderer]

I usually go shit or bust and work backwards.

Try 180 or something and see what happens. i doubt if your BIOS will let you though.

Funny, I'm the same way regardless of platform. Once we got the P6T machine booted to windows, first thing I did was go into BIOS and go straight for 200 BCLK at a lowered multi. @AwesomeMarioFan I'm with CAPS on this one: if your board allows for it, shoot for something like 180BCLK right off the bat.

https://dolphin-emu.org/docs/faq/

Looking at those specs, pretty much any 1366 I7 or 4c/8t Xeon with a mild OC should run it well, and if he's going to be running 8c/16t across two processors, should be fine.

 

[biffzinker]

I usually go shit or bust and work backwards.

Try 180 or something and see what happens. i doubt if your BIOS will let you though.

One big jump forward then working backwards will take less time when overclocking the base clock.

 

[Random Murderer]

One big jump forward then working backwards will take less time when overclocking the base clock.

Yep. Last time I used the method of small incremental steps upwards, I was on S754!

 

[FireFox]

and if he's going to be running 8c/16t across two processors, should be fine.

That's why i think would be better 2 x X5677, with the price of one X5675 i buy two X5677 and still have money left for a Big Mac extra Bacon + a Big portion of fried potatoes and Big Fanta/Cola/Sprite, oh forgot to mention, Chicken Wings 12 pieces

 

[Random Murderer]

That's why i think would be better 2 x X5677, with the price of one X5675 i buy two X5677 and still have money left for a Big Mac extra Bacon + a Big portion of fried potatoes and Big Fanta/Cola/Sprite, oh forgot to mention, Chicken Wings 12 pieces

Agreed. If his board doesn't support any overclocking features at all, the X5677s will be great. If he does have the ability to overclock, two E5620s may be a better choice, based solely on price.

 

[AwesomeMarioFan]

One big jump forward then working backwards will take less time when overclocking the base clock.

This is the FSB though (which as I understand is like the base clock since FSB * Multipler = Frequency) and would be overclocked with SetFSB, but it also increases the RAM speed with it, and there's no overclocking settings in my BIOS since it is a Dell. Would you think this would still work?

 

[biffzinker]

Would still work but you'll have to keep an eye on the DDR3 clock frequency. Could try for a 25/50 MHz bump in steps, and check the DDR3 frequency with CPU-Z.

 

[AwesomeMarioFan]

Would still work but you'll have to keep an eye on the DDR3 clock frequency. Could try for a 25/50 MHz bump in steps, and check the DDR3 frequency with CPU-Z.

Ok, is there a certain range it should be in? Right now CPU-Z says:
DRAM Frequency: 531.9Mhz
FSB:RAM: 2:8

 

[biffzinker]

Right now your slightly under the supported speed (DDR3-1066) for the Xeon E5620. The installed DDR3 might make it up to DDR3-1333? I would try for now to stay at or under 1333 (666.5 MHz.) The motherboard might also switch to another FSB to RAM ratio automatically or you may need to switch it down to DDR3-800 than raise the FSB (QPI) up.

Here's the Intel ark page for your Xeon if your interested.
http://ark.intel.com/products/47925/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5620-12M-Cache-2_40-GHz-5_86-GTs-Intel-QPI

 

[watageek]

Hello,

I have a Dell Precision T5500 currently with 2x Xeon E5620 (Quad) @ 2.40Ghz. I was recently going to try upgrading the CPUs - would this be worth it? If so, what CPU would you guys recommend upgrading to? I wasn't sure if something like the X5687 or the X5675 (as the X5690 is ~$200/processor so that will be out of my budget) would be good? I also wasn't sure if it would be better to go with a quad cores with higher clock speeds, or hex cores with lower clock speeds.

Try to have fun first with the things you already have, see what this rig can give you and try different fsb/Memory multi setup. You might not have a lot of choice on that motherboard as previously state by the guys.

Also, a side question: Would it be safe to overclock the E5620's that I have now using the FSB (with no voltage changes))? If so, what would you think would be a safe FSB/clock speed? I've done a lot of research on this but haven't found much info related to these xeon chips, so I figured I would ask you guys.

stock cooling and stock voltage... doesn't really matter, Find the highest fsb you can get. Have a look on how to overclock and keep the temp lowest possible. There is numerous poeple here who can help if you need to.
keep the temp in the 70's with intel burn test. the overclock won't kill it. Voltage will (TEMP will throttle cpu)

 

[watageek]

@biffzinker
damn you are swift

 

[biffzinker]

The name is Glühwein.

This keeps selling out on the shelf.

Edit: How about some of those prices , eh?

 

[FireFox]

This keeps selling out on the shelf.
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Many people drink it, be careful you can get drunk and you won't even notice it.