Upgrade to 7700K was a let down!

[the54thvoid]

worth quoting again... oy.

And you have that.. by a couple % at the same clockspeed. Not much, but known. And you can push the 7700k to 5ghz+.

If you use all cores, it will be close at the same clocks. Thing is, 5ghz is in the cards for retail 7700K. I bet you are close to being topped out on that 3930K.

For games, only games which use more than 8 threads will benefit.

I'd upgrade to kaby and never look back...or wait for zen and see what the landscape looks like at that point.

Yeah - used to run at 4.4Ghz but reduced it to 4.2Ghz a year or so back for stability. I think it will be February Zen or Kaby for me. Not wasting time waiting on Skylake-E, not for gaming.

 

[mcraygsx]

wait you swapped a proc and mobo.. I would post some benches after a fresh install.

I can only assume the 7700k would be slightly better at everything than a 4790k..

In my case almost all the AAAA titles take a performance hit. 3D vantage (Extreme) results comparison between 7700k vs 5930k vs 6700k, XMP was enabled on 7700K/6700k only @stock.

Here is a (Performance) comparison against old CPU's

 

[eidairaman1]

Well your solution is to sell off that rig and go back to Skt 2011-3 or wait for Skylake-E

 

[Tomgang]

This i why i am keeeping X58 in sted of bay cheap new mainstream platform, cause i know i just gonna end up dissapointed + high-end platform also do have more vursital when it comes to configuration of cpu and GPU´s. Just take X58 i have and Quad-core now but next week a 6 core cpu (an I7 980X is on the way to my door step) on the same platform. Try upgrade a quad-core cpu on any mainstream to a six core cpu from intel, its gonna be very hard no matter how cause it is op to this day not possible.

You would have been better of just keept your old CPU or upgradet to 6000 series 6 or 8 core cpu on the same platform.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Most know by now the 7000 series is really just Skylake with slightly higher clocks and a bit better onboard graphics. Other than that, just new MB features.

There's one kid on Tom's insisting HT is great for gaming because one game ran slightly smoother with a stock clocked 7700k than his OCed 6600k.

I told him the only fair way to test just the HT effectiveness, is to run the 7700k with and without HT. Instead he calls MY comments misleading, merely for saying his methods weren't accurate.

I don't know what it is with gamers these days, but when a lot of them get the upgrade bug, they're in total denial when they swap for something that isn't really better.

It's refreshing for a change to see someone call Intel out on these cheap arse refresh series.

 

[erocker]

Any thoughts if I should just return the whole combo and just upgrade to Broadwell-E since I already have a decent X99 mb.

That's what I'd do. Well, I probably would of just kept the original CPU as it's no slouch!

*Also, love your avatar!

 

[alucasa]

Can't beat Freespace 2. I absolutely loved that game. Don't think I've seen a proper successor for it...

Edit: What I loved about Freespace2 is the mentality of the game. You are just a mere pilot. You cannot alter the outcome of the war. But do your best and perhaps, just perhaps, you could alter few minor details of the war.

 

[fourletterfame]

Right my expectations were to get a superior single core performance out of 7700k. I am not comparing the argument of two extra cores here. .

Reviews have been pretty explicit about what to expect from kaby lake, I'm disappointed people still make purchases without reading them thoroughly.

 

[mcraygsx]

Most know by now the 7000 series is really just Skylake with slightly higher clocks and a bit better onboard graphics. Other than that, just new MB features.

There's one kid on Tom's insisting HT is great for gaming because one game ran slightly smoother with a stock clocked 7700k than his OCed 6600k.

I told him the only fair way to test just the HT effectiveness, is to run the 7700k with and without HT. Instead he calls MY comments misleading, merely for saying his methods weren't accurate.

I don't know what it is with gamers these days, but when a lot of them get the upgrade bug, they're in total denial when they swap for something that isn't really better.

It's refreshing for a change to see someone call Intel out on these cheap arse refresh series.

Two of the titles I tested benefit from full core with HT disabled including WOW and Company of heroes 2. But The Division and RainbowSix Siege Performs much better w/HT is enabled.

That's what I'd do. Well, I probably would of just kept the original CPU as it's no slouch!

*Also, love your avatar!

Thank You, Lesson learned and moving back to my original setup.

No matter how many times I've finished FS2 , it still gives me the goose bumps.

 

[Kursah]

Tough to blame you for moving back to your old setup, means you did it right when you built it!

FS2 is a classic that I still enjoy as well and something I always have installed and ready-to-go, and FS2Open 2014 rocks!

 

[alucasa]

Freespace 2 with modern graphics would be awesome as hell. They don't need to change anything else.

It was one of few games I was actually swearing out loud as I was trying to survive against giant motherf...., well, you know. Either way, I was totally roleplaying it.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

...The Division and RainbowSix Siege Performs much better w/HT is enabled.

Yeah I'm aware there's now a scant few titles that get a slight benefit from HT, but HT in general is still far from being a selling point for gamers. You're usually far better off taking the difference in money and spending it on a better GPU. My main point though was his HT testing method wasn't even sound.

 

[FireFox]

Reviews have been pretty explicit about what to expect from kaby lake,

and?

I'm disappointed

Good for you

people still make purchases without reading

What should i read?

This?

Most know by now the 7000 series is really just Skylake with slightly higher clocks and a bit better onboard graphics.

I already know all that BS.

 

[dorsetknob]

I apologise but you must be a special kind of stupid

Consumer Simpson Seduced by the Shiny Shiny new thing
"" Marg is not as good as the old stuff ""
Take or Send it back to the Quicky mart !!!!!

 

[Dippyskoodlez]

Broadwell-e would fix your xmp issues, also i bet we've crossed paths at that microcenter before and didnt know

 

[fourletterfame]

and?



Good for you



What should i read?

This?


I already know all that BS.

Four smarmy quotes later, you still look foolish.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

I already know all that BS.

Then you just validated my point, didn't you?

 

[Toothless]

The dumb is strong.

 

[RejZoR]

Most know by now the 7000 series is really just Skylake with slightly higher clocks and a bit better onboard graphics. Other than that, just new MB features.

There's one kid on Tom's insisting HT is great for gaming because one game ran slightly smoother with a stock clocked 7700k than his OCed 6600k.

I told him the only fair way to test just the HT effectiveness, is to run the 7700k with and without HT. Instead he calls MY comments misleading, merely for saying his methods weren't accurate.

I don't know what it is with gamers these days, but when a lot of them get the upgrade bug, they're in total denial when they swap for something that isn't really better.

It's refreshing for a change to see someone call Intel out on these cheap arse refresh series.

It has actually been proven several times HT actually negatively affects games in most cases. I still have it on because who doesn't like to see 12 active threads Games run fast anyway, I don't see the nee to turn off HT and then negatively afect other stuff like encoding of videos and compression of files.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

I love you socket 1366

 

[FireFox]

you still look foolish.

You should stop crying like a little Girl.

Then you just validated my point, didn't you?

Yes i did.

 

[Outback Bronze]

Its all good mate

I've just recently downgraded also but I'm perfectly happy with my outcome. I was running a 5960x and it was just a power hog, ran hot and was completely overkill for my games.

I even run SLI on the Z170 @ 8x+8x and its perfectly fine. I don't think ill see the 1FPS difference between 16x+16x. You are right about the build quality though (X99) about it feeling more of a Top Tier product.

Nothing wrong with my sweet little overclocking 7600K, its got great IPC for my games over the 5960x for the 99% of my games (I feel). I might even go back to it one day, when a game I love needs all those cores/threads.

Let them all call me a dumb ass, I don't care. They know where they can stick it.

 

[GelatanousMuck]

Whew! I'm so glad I had already ordered before reading this thread.

My 7700K at stock speed, beat my 3770K overclocked to 5ghz by 1,000 points in Firestrike PhysX.

With my 7700K overclocked to 5ghz it beat the 3770K at 5ghz PhysX score by over 3,000 points.

The 7700K rocks!

Also it was overclocked on the same M/B as the OPs the ASUS Maximus IX Hero.

 

[Toothless]

Whew! I'm so glad I had already ordered before reading this thread.

My 7700K at stock speed, beat my 3770K overclocked to 5ghz by 1,000 points in Firestrike PhysX.

With my 7700K overclocked to 5ghz it beat the 3770K at 5ghz PhysX score by over 3,000 points.

The 7700K rocks!

Also it was overclocked on the same M/B as the OPs the ASUS Maximus IX Hero.

Your situation is completely different than OP's. You went from a 3rd gen to a 7th gen and Firestrike isn't a real way to see real world performance. You missed the point of the thread.

 

[nomdeplume]

I agree the OP was more of a fell asleep at the wheel and woke up in a wreck situation. Hurts to watch but since nobody died you only partially stifle a laugh.